Play Nice 47th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 20: If you want Capitalism, you got it

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USA - 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

Continued from Part 1 - https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2024-us-presidential-election-trump-vs-harris.1383317/

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USA - Kamala Harris Concedes. God Help America

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[bourbons]

So ?

So you have no idea if it was a Harris supporter or not and even if it was the idea that Harris is losing "partly losing because her lunatic supporters are going viral on the socials yelling at children" (that happened only hours ago) is patently absurd.

 

[awaremind]

Unsure what all that has to do with assessing just assessing Trump on his merits. You (and Rogan) make it sound like he's some run of the mill personality who couldn't possibly generate the amount of hate he does without that hate being somehow manufactured

Surely there's always the possibility he's just an incredibly shit bloke who comes across really poorly to 50+% of people who see him and hear him?

It’s the way his critics parrot msm talking points and can’t accept any criticism of the other side. Joe was good for snapping people out of this stupor , cos it was super easy to find at first videos of him weirdly sniffing children , being obviously creepy, and later being essentially an exploited old man with dementia, it was obvious he was unfit, then comparing his treatment to how trump was hounded , and people really did click about what’s going on, unless they were really proud and stubborn.

 

[bourbons]

It’s the way his critics parrot msm talking points and can’t accept any criticism of the other side.

Honestly no idea what you're talking about. The rusted-ons nutter types over in the US maybe, but people on this board for example who want Harris to win are pretty willing to hear criticism about the democrats, hell most of them make criticisms themselves, I have.

 

[Blue1980]

They should review their journalism from the last 8 years and see how differently they treated each president and they might realize he has a point.

And give Fox, OAN etc a free pass?

Trump just wants to cancel any media which isn’t favourable to him. You don’t get democrats saying media which oppose them should be shut down.

So no, he doesn’t have a point. All ABC did was fact check batshit insane stuff like eating cats and dogs, stolen election BS etc.

You can’t make an equivalent to Kamala on it, though I am sure you will try, but it’s like comparing an elephant to a mouse and saying both are as big.

 

[awaremind]

So you have no idea if it was a Harris supporter or not and even if it was the idea that Harris is losing "partly losing because her lunatic supporters are going viral on the socials yelling at children" (that happened only hours ago) is patently absurd.

I’ve seen a few other similar ones and the way I’ve been treated on here should show you how “ passionate” people are. I’ve made it clear - for 8 years on here-( go see my comments the first page of the Assange thread from 2016) my dis taste and distrust of trump in a consistent way. Yet because I don’t accept” the message “ I’m heavily attacked. I engage with pro trump people on Israel /palestine and honestly there’s a lot more respect.

 

[Blue1980]

I also can’t recall a politician as divisive as Trump? The whole thing has a weird nazi-like prancing around in lederhosen whilst drinking Gluehwein reality TV show vibe.

Certainly not in my lifetime in US politics, certainly no one who has been president.

There have been shit presidents, but none have flat out refused to accept the result of an election and gone anywhere near his fascist and dystopian rhetoric.

Yet people are normalising it, like the frog in the boiling water, people just get used to it.

 

[Blue1980]

It’s the way his critics parrot msm talking points and can’t accept any criticism of the other side. Joe was good for snapping people out of this stupor , cos it was super easy to find at first videos of him weirdly sniffing children , being obviously creepy, and later being essentially an exploited old man with dementia, it was obvious he was unfit, then comparing his treatment to how trump was hounded , and people really did click about what’s going on, unless they were really proud and stubborn.

Have you seen all the criticism of Kamala and the Dems by people like myself and others made very regularly?

The trump supporters basically never criticise him for anything, just deflect anything with whataboutisms, don’t even acklowledge a single Trump fault.

I thought Joe should go before the debate, many here did too, and most of the lefty stuff I watch and follow thought the same.

CNN/MSNBC they are corporate dem establishment cheerleaders, no argument from me there.

 

[Saint Shags]

Yea, much of it the hard work of enslaved black people.

Not only that but wasn't it through an African American woman that Phil got his break in TV?

 

[Blue1980]

I’ve seen a few other similar ones and the way I’ve been treated on here should show you how “ passionate” people are. I’ve made it clear - for 8 years on here-( go see my comments the first page of the Assange thread from 2016) my dis taste and distrust of trump in a consistent way. Yet because I don’t accept” the message “ I’m heavily attacked. I engage with pro trump people on Israel /palestine and honestly there’s a lot more respect.

The mistake you make is thinking people who are anti Trump and see him as an existential threat to democracy don’t love the democrats and think they are perfect and will save us from all bad things.

I have criticised the Dems a lot here and some people have made me out to be a doomer, or wrong in my criticism of the Dems always lurching to the right.

 

[awaremind]

And give Fox, OAN etc a free pass?

Trump just wants to cancel any media which isn’t favourable to him. You don’t get democrats saying media which oppose them should be shut down.

So no, he doesn’t have a point. All ABC did was fact check batshit insane stuff like eating cats and dogs, stolen election BS etc.

You can’t make an equivalent to Kamala on it, though I am sure you will try, but it’s like comparing an elephant to a mouse and saying both are as big.

Realistically, is he going to do that, he’ll just make them be a bit more balanced, he loves them !

Have you seen all the criticism of Kamala and the Dems by people like myself and others made very regularly?

The trump supporters basically never criticise him for anything, just deflect anything with whataboutisms, don’t even acklowledge a single Trump fault.

I thought Joe should go before the debate, many here did too, and most of the lefty stuff I watch and follow thought the same.

CNN/MSNBC they are corporate dem establishment cheerleaders, no argument from me there.

Honestly Joe should have gone a couple of years ago at least if not never ever been candidate, the dems had good people I liked but they got frozen out and joined trump in the end, or Bernie missed his chance because of his age, after being shafted by Hilary .
Obviously if you really care about politics you should be critical of the party you support. I’ve been pretty uninspired by both sides and I find the sellout of the media and decline in quality journalism pretty sad. However I do like podcasts that give several hours of time to quality guests

 

[awaremind]

Certainly not in my lifetime in US politics, certainly no one who has been president.

There have been shit presidents, but none have flat out refused to accept the result of an election and gone anywhere near his fascist and dystopian rhetoric.

Yet people are normalising it, like the frog in the boiling water, people just get used to it.

After 4 years of “ weekend at Bernie’s “ the people welcomed the game show host with open arms , professional wrestler is coming soon , then Kanye.

 

[Blue1980]

Realistically, is he going to do that, he’ll just make them be a bit more balanced, he loves them !

Honestly Joe should have gone a couple of years ago at least if not never ever been candidate, the dems had good people I liked but they got frozen out and joined trump in the end, or Bernie missed his chance because of his age, after being shafted by Hilary .
Obviously if you really care about politics you should be critical of the party you support. I’ve been pretty uninspired by both sides and I find the sellout of the media and decline in quality journalism pretty sad. However I do like podcasts that give several hours of time to quality guests [emoji6]

At the very very least Biden should have made it clear he was doing one term only well in advance.

Bernie was shafted twice, in 2016 and 2020. He’d have won 2016 comfortably and we’d never of had a trump era.

I don’t see the same amount of people on the right side of politics willing to call out trump and the GOP.

You will see heaps on the left doing it re the Dems and Harris. See the widespread condemnation of them being cucks to Israel here (not on MSNBC and CNN) and other independent media.

 

[Blue1980]

After 4 years of “ weekend at Bernie’s “ the people welcomed the game show host with open arms , professional wrestler is coming soon , then Kanye.

Jesse Ventura would be kinda cool as president

 

[Gough]

Jesse Ventura would be kinda cool as president

Anything but admit you support Trump because he hates anyone who isn't a straight white man.

 

[awaremind]

At the very very least Biden should have made it clear he was doing one term only well in advance.

Bernie was shafted twice, in 2016 and 2020. He’d have won 2016 comfortably and we’d never of had a trump era.

I don’t see the same amount of people on the right side of politics willing to call out trump and the GOP.

You will see heaps on the left doing it re the Dems and Harris. See the widespread condemnation of them being cucks to Israel here (not on MSNBC and CNN) and other independent media.

Yeah have you put the pieces together and realised they are all paid by aipac, and controlled by people like Epstein and Diddy ? And that’s to enable the horrors of what they have done to Palestine !

 

[awaremind]

Jesse Ventura would be kinda cool as president

Ha ha Jesse Ventura is pretty mad and cool and a massive conspiracy

 

[Not Important]

Thanks for clarifying

I guess my fault for not putting my faith in "LePapillonBlu2"

moreso doing no due diligence.

 

[Blue1980]

Anything but admit you support Trump because he hates anyone who isn't a straight white man.

Yes, guilty as charged

 

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[Al Heimer]

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[troybe]

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[Blue1980]

Yeah have you put the pieces together and realised they are all paid by aipac, and controlled by people like Epstein and Diddy ? And that’s to enable the horrors of what they have done to Palestine !

Umm no shit they are all paid by AIPAC (well 98% of the dems and all apart from like one libertarian republican guy), I thought i had made my views pretty clear on that.

But your 2nd part, connecting Epstein and Diddy to AIPAC and horrors in Palestine? What does this white board of connections of yours look like?

 

[awaremind]

Umm no shit they are all paid by AIPAC (well 98% of the dems and all apart from like one libertarian republican guy), I thought i had made my views pretty clear on that.

But your 2nd part, connecting Epstein and Diddy to AIPAC and horrors in Palestine? What does this white board of connections of yours look like?

It’s pretty simple and mainstream too these days to say Epstein at least , and probably any other extortionist was used to control celebrities and politicians …. Hardly exotic any more !

 

[Blue1980]

It’s pretty simple and mainstream too these days to say Epstein at least , and probably any other extortionist was used to control celebrities and politicians …. Hardly exotic any more !

Yeah but not sure how that relates to Israel. Were they trading sexual favours with 14 year olds in echange for agreeing to keep the money flowing to Israel?

 

[awaremind]

Yeah but not sure how that relates to Israel. Were they trading sexual favours with 14 year olds in echange for agreeing to keep the money flowing to Israel?

That would be more speculation on that that than I’d think was appropriate for this thread