List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

[giantroo]

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Picks

 

[BrownPaperBag]

spending picks on delisted shitters instead of picking up state league guns like Geelong.

Yeah we have enough state league speculative players we don’t need to pick up more if we create more spaces use it on draftees. If we can’t get a pick decent enough don’t make the space for it.

I know people here like to play experts and “discover” diamonds in the rough but please.

People bemoan players like pink yet want to grab more of that type, have a spell

 

[Roodus]

**** Richmond! They clearly want pick 2 and are trying to act if it's nothing, expect us to just give it and future first for 6 and 11 because how deep draft is. Either they give us a good offer or we talk to others, clearly they'll be other teams after it.

6, 11 and 18 for 2 and future first or find someone else who will trade for it.

We let Sydney and Dogs get there way, can't let Tigers too or we just look weak.

 

[amaz199]

Geelong deliberately hides their potential recruits. They tell them to play out of position or don't play at all (take a holiday lol). They even go as far as putting them in divisions with no scouts having a look.

It's how they keep getting blokes like Humphries and Stewart. No one knew about them.

 

[NMFC TID]

Geelong deliberately hides their potential recruits. They tell them to play out of position or don't play at all (take a holiday lol). They even go as far as putting them in divisions with no scouts having a look.

It's how they keep getting blokes like Humphries and Stewart. No one knew about them.

mate Humphries was playing WAFL, he wasnt playing park footy

 

[The Filth Wizard]

Geelong deliberately hides their potential recruits. They tell them to play out of position or don't play at all (take a holiday lol). They even go as far as putting them in divisions with no scouts having a look.

It's how they keep getting blokes like Humphries and Stewart. No one knew about them.

Humphries was in the West Coast NGA program and entered the draft three times before Geelong took him but you are mostly bang on.

 

[hilly]

Humphries was in the West Coast NGA program and entered the draft three times before Geelong took him but you are mostly bang on.

Maybe we could have people scouting such leagues.

 

[hoffseason gains 01]

I've run all opposition posts through an analyser, a collective mind dump if you will.

Here are the results.

North Melbourne
OUT: #2, F1, F2
IN: Gary Rohan

23

Gary Rohan

Age

34

Ht

189cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.6

2star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.5

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.8

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.8

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

4.2

5star

G

1.2

4star

, #30

Richmond
OUT: #30 (held by Fremantle)
IN: #2, North Melbourne F1 & F2

St Kilda
OUT: St Kilda F1
IN: St Kilda F1*

*Denotes "just came along for the ride" trade

Mate I just saw a Richmond supporter on twitter say he ‘reckons’ he would do 2 and our F1 for 6 and 18.

I don’t know how but the way people have been speaking 6 has become more valuable than 2 these days. Boggles the mind to be honest.

 

[archereleven]

Adding to the chorus, the longer we hold the higher the value of #2. It  may swing either way if we take it to the draft to sell though. ie - there might be desperate buyers but equally clubs might want to be pretty set in their strategies by the actual day rather than throw a last second Hail Mary.

But we are very likely to hold the last gettable top 3 pick. Carlton traded up with a purpose and Richmond almost certainly won't shift out of #1.

Eventually someone might overreach and offer something ridiculously compelling.

Strategies go by the wayside when a teams #1 rated player is on the board and there is an available pick.

There could potentially be 3-4 teams competing for 2 at that point, and if they aren't offering overs, they can all gagf, and we take our best rated mid.

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[Shinboner1]

Humphries was in the West Coast NGA program and entered the draft three times before Geelong took him but you are mostly bang on.

Tim Kelly took a few times before getting drafted didnt he?
Nic Martin was SSP.
There's players out there.
Why are we not drafting the best play from the VFL grand finalists every year?

 

[The Nostradamus]

I think there is a mix currently where next years first round pick is criminally under valued and this years picks are criminally over valued. It concerns me what our F1 has been getting valued at currently. Next year F1 could easily be W.Duursma which covers off keeping Zane happy and athletic swingman.

Yeah likely a top 6 pick next year

A KPF in ludowyke or Willem Duursma who can play anywhere would be around the mark at this early stage

 

[buttox]

Tim Kelly took a few times before getting drafted didnt he?
Nic Martin was SSP.
There's players out there.
Why are we not drafting the best play from the VFL grand finalists every year?

Every year about 15-20 state leaguers get picked up.
The hit rate is not great.
Naming a few excellent ones does not change this

 

[Ura]

**** Richmond! They clearly want pick 2 and are trying to act if it's nothing, expect us to just give it and future first for 6 and 11 because how deep draft is. Either they give us a good offer or we talk to others, clearly they'll be other teams after it.

6, 11 and 18 for 2 and future first or find someone else who will trade for it.

We let Sydney and Dogs get there way, can't let Tigers too or we just look weak.

Just remember fans don’t speak for the clubs and what they are actually doing behind the scenes. North and Richmond will only make a deal if both teams feel it’s in their teams best interest

 

[HBFlanker]

Richmond will cave.

No way they take all their picks this year.

As we saw with GWS and GCS. All their kids think they are stars, and if they aren't playing regularly immediately, they will leave to play elsewhere.

Better off evening it out over two years.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Has anyone seen Nostra and Rawlings in the same room?

I would sincerely hope that never happens

 

[HBFlanker]

North give: Pick 2
North get: Pick 7, Pick 15

Stk give: Pick 7, Pick 8, Pick 32
StK get: Pick 2, Pick 16

GWS give: Pick 15, Pick 16
GWS get: Pick 8, Pick 32

 

[chubbspeterson]

Richmond will cave.

No way they take all their picks this year.

As we saw with GWS and GCS. All their kids think they are stars, and if they aren't playing regularly immediately, they will leave to play elsewhere.

Better off evening it out over two years.

I don't understand how they wouldn't give up 6 and something to get pick 2. They guarantee the player they want rather than waiting until pick 6. There's no guarantee Smillie or Langford is there at 6.
Smillie's mum put out a cheeseboard for the recruiters. If that doesn't say GoDees then nothing will!

 

[justroyal]

I don't understand how they wouldn't give up 6 and something to get pick 2. They guarantee the player they want rather than waiting until pick 6. There's no guarantee Smillie or Langford is there at 6.
Smillie's mum put out a cheeseboard for the recruiters. If that doesn't say GoDees then nothing will!

If I see one campaigner sleeping in a north guernsey

 

[HBFlanker]

I don't understand how they wouldn't give up 6 and something to get pick 2. They guarantee the player they want rather than waiting until pick 6. There's no guarantee Smillie or Langford is there at 6.
Smillie's mum put out a cheeseboard for the recruiters. If that doesn't say GoDees then nothing will!

Dont think they want Smillie.

Lalor is also a huge risk at pick 1.

 

[chubbspeterson]

Dont think they want Smillie.

Lalor is also a huge risk at pick 1.

From McGowan's article in The Age...

'Another factor is the Tigers’ interest in 195-centimetre Patrick Cripps clone Josh Smillie, who hails from junior club Park Orchards, where Richmond list boss Blair Hartley is a coach and Hartley’s son plays'

 

[The Big O]

Every year about 15-20 state leaguers get picked up.
The hit rate is not great.
Naming a few excellent ones does not change this

We took the best goal scorer 3 times in Smith, Hosie and Sellers with no success.

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[FootySmartSimpson]

Exactly.

FOS fits beautifully in our mix imo.

in fact, im now hoping for this outcome, as Richmonds board have basically cemented him into their best 22 and have been fobbing over him for the last 4 weeks.

The attention has now turned to Lalor and Smillie.

Would would certainly be an......interesting... combination to go with.


In FOS we'd land our version of Josh Kelly in the end. Even if he's not the absolute best player in this draft, he absolutely suits what our midfield lacks. Gut running, exquisite foot skills, outside class, versatility to move mid, back, forward.

In fact, I could see him playing half back next year in the same apprenticeship as Sheezel and McKercher.

We can afford the risk on him.

If we keep 2, that player does an 18 month apprenticeship at HB: all of FOS, Langford, Draper or Smith would all be handy there.

 

[ohmygewd]

If we keep 2, that player does an 18 month apprenticeship at HB: all of FOS, Langford, Draper or Smith would all be handy there.

Where does Daniel play?

 

[giantroo]

Cool, we'll stick with Pick 2, Ralphy.

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

Where does Daniel play?

McDonald Corr Archer
Daniel Logue Langford/FOS/Draper

 

[NMFC TID]

McDonald Corr Archer
Daniel Logue Langford/FOS/Draper

Chom?
McDonald isnt best 23