Autopsy US Election Day Thread - Trump 47th President of the United States

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The race is run, the winner declared!

For further discussion of the election:

USA - 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

I will be keen to watch the handover on J6 I think, Will the Bidens attend unlike Trump? Will the crowd be the biggest in history, Will there be a magical Mystery victory tour and rallies like 2016, Will he reduce his golf games and stop heading North in the Summer or home to Fl in the winter...

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For discussion of the incoming president:

Play Nice - 47th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 20: If you want Capitalism, you got it

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For discussion of the losing candidate:

USA - Kamala Harris Concedes. God Help America

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Enjoy, all!

 

[HirdsTheWord]

It is to a degree. Like all things in life people make choices and they have consequences. And sometimes that's the only way people learn and ethics matter. So I certainly will be cutting off any friends I had that voted for Trump and hopefully in America a lot of people will do the same. As much as I love my friends I'd rather set a good example for my kids.

That is a sad way to live your life. You do you though.

 

[Strange Cat]

Nope. Need someone not from Californian/Hollywood bubble.

She was a DA that’s far removed from that bubble

Let’s be honest they need to appeal to racists in the red neck states and have a white young guy leading the races if there is a future election …which I very much doubt there will be in honesty

 

[carltonchelsea]

I think you should go tell all the Latinos why they are wrong and you are right

I think you should go to America!

 

[spinynorman]

Not really. The affluent got a huge 401k spike when trump raised the debt in his first term

I’m pretty sure that’s what got him over the line. That and being a wasp

Except the results suggest that actually he did better with middle class and working class voters than previously, while the Democrats did better with affluent voters.

As Schumer said, “For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs in Philadelphia, and you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin.” It’s been a catastrophic strategy.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

This is incredible he starts a coup against his own nation, becomes a convicted felon then proceeds to win presidency in a landslide he is a phenomena needs to be studying

Phenomenon

 

[black is White]

Anyone that knows anything about the republican machine knows that they’ve been building this for years. State legislatures, governments etc.

The centre never imagined that the hard core right would take it over. It’s their own making. It’s what actually make me laugh when I hear those that opposed Clinton now shitting their pants on trump. You did this you dumb campaigners

All the house hold Republican names that were career politicians have recently been primaried out of there and voting against Trump. The people who have been organising the Republican party for 40 years like the Cheney's lol. Trump actually has a fair few past democrats on his team including his vice president JD Vance who originally hated Trump I'm not sure how that's far right wing 40 year plan in the making.

 

[Strange Cat]

We're going to cop it too. If it was just the Americans I couldn't care less but we'll all pay for this dickhead's dad telling him how disappointed in him he is.

Oh no doubt the global effect will be felt , I am just saying when it’s all said and done they did this to themselves

I’m really hoping globally we all start pulling away from America influence and treat them like any other faccist regime in the near future

 

[carltonchelsea]

Haha Baron is the spitting image of Trump. This isn't Trudeux were talking about.

Melania has been rooting Hank Siemers since 2015, trump is a cuck, he even pays their rent, Barron calls Hank daddy, just like you do!

 

[Romeoh1]

Looking at the voting maps, the dopey white guys in the battleground states did the damage I take it. Cultists. Sigh. Weak as water America. You got it wrong. Im sorry for the eejits who voted for him but I’m more sorry for the people who did the right thing and didn’t vote for him.
Still, they voted for him so they got what they wanted but it seems like what they want is a sad thing to me.

 

[The Dice Man]

Germany announced today a big increase in their mitary

Is the Mitary where they make strudel?

 

[wilsonmatic]

 

[Sir_Loin]

Except the results suggest that actually he did better with middle class and working class voters than previously, while the Democrats did better with affluent voters.

As Schumer said, “For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs in Philadelphia, and you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin.” It’s been a catastrophic strategy.

What did I say? Just read a bit ffs

 

[DogDaySonny]

She was a DA that’s far removed from that bubble

Let’s be honest they need to appeal to racists in the red neck states and have a white young guy leading the races if there is a future election …which I very much doubt there will be in honesty

This is the most delicious post I’ve read yet. I think you’re 100% right and I highly encourage you to ignore any urge for introspection or to attempt to genuinely understand why people disagree with you.

 

[Sir_Loin]

Nope. Need someone not from Californian/Hollywood bubble.

Someone for the Midwest? Haha

Mate trump made his career on the apprentice and guess where that was made

 

[Balls In]

Taxes are essential for government to work. We are indeed sick and tired of seeing our tax dollars "pissed up against the wall" BUT, is the answer really ending up in thrall to a pack of so-called 'small government' grifters that do nothing, spend nothing, and surrenders our wellbeing to private, for-profit interests all the while bragging about how government surplus increases by the year?

No.

How about we have a government who spends wisely... ON US THE VOTERS? WE are the lifeblood of any Democracy. Our working hours, our taxable income - the nation runs on it. Without the work of we the electorate, the nation dies.

All we want for the sweat of our labour is value for money. A healthcare system that ensures that nobody goes bankrupt worrying about their health. An education system that trains up our future workforce AND integrates them into a dynamic and inclusive society at large. A police force that protects the community and serves us all.

Is that too much to ask?

I just find it amazing that the ruling classes are surprised when the working class -ie most people - vote for smaller government, lower taxes and against mass migration. Trump is different in that he will do what he says, unlike the UK conservatives and Aust Libs who are voted in on such policies then refuse to implement.

 

[Richard Pryor]

The celebs they rolled out must feel pretty helpless. Guys like Charlie Kirk were a far bigger asset than Cardi B (whoever the hell that is)

like with Hillary it felt very astroturfed. Like Hillary (and a guy like Bill Shorten) Kamala is just not that charismatic which is why millions of Americans didn't show up to vote which as usual I think was the main factor, rather than the demographics of who did vote.

Left wing politics (even pseudo left wing like the democrats) has to sell people on a vision for progress and change, even moreso when voting is not compulsory, conservatism almost just has to exist since at its core it is about not changing anything, or changing things back (and since people have lived through how things were or are nostalgic for it it's an acceptable or preferable alternative).

Really hard to see how the democrats gain any ground for a generation if they keep foisting good party people as candidates rather than backing an Obama or Bill Clinton type who has that outsider new kid on the block energy to revamp the party.

Interesting to see how they respond to such a catastrophic loss, and personally without covid I suspect Trump may have won in 2020 as well.

 

[pjcrows]

It’s kinda amazing when you realise that this was all very much spoken and dissected over the last few years ..espically the outrage about ROE…and yet there’s 15 million votes less than 2020

they have only themselves to blame for what’s coming sadly

Cries of racism/bigotry and misogyny fall on deaf ears now.

Bigotry/racism doesn't explain why he increased his vote with African-Americans and Latinos, and misogyny doesn't explain why women across the board simply didn't turn out to vote for Harris. A lot of Trump voters chose Obama in the past, and choose women for many elected positions in society.

It was once again, an election about change. Harris offered none, and Trump still has his populist edge, like it or not.

 

[spinynorman]

What did I say? Just read a bit ffs

That the Trump tax cuts got him over the line? If I’ve misunderstood please assist.

To be clear also, I’m not saying Republicans are now a party that looks out for middle and working class interests, but more that those demographics shifting there from the Democrats was avoidable and a poor ideological choice.

 

[Golden_6]

this is the entire problem with politics generally, but America is the extreme case in first world countries.

People need to respect that other people want different things and have different preferences.

If you cut people off you disagree with; you just end up in an echo chamber.

The issue is that we’re not talking about difference of opinion with issues like the economy (which is fine). It’s more the values that differ that go to the core of a what a person believes in.

 

[Richard Pryor]

Cries of racism/bigotry and misogyny fall on deaf wars now.

Bigotry/racism doesn't explain why he increased his vote with African-Americans and Latinos, and misogyny doesn't explain why women across the board simply didn't turn out to vote for Harris.

It was once again, an election about change. Harris offered none, and Trump still has his populist edge, like it or not.

The photo op after he survived an assassination attempt contrasted with the shitshow of Biden having to be publicly pushed into retirement was a huge encapsulation of Trumps populist advantage versus the democrats representing typical establishment politics.

 

[pebblesofsand]

Trump promised to lower taxes and strip waste out of govt. Over to you Dutton. People are sick of being the working poor as govts piss their hard work against a wall.

Economics is not your strong point - every "policy" that Trump has put forward is inflationary.

And who are the biggest losers in an inflationary climate - those with the least amount of money.

 

[black is White]

Cries of racism/bigotry and misogyny fall on deaf wars now.

Bigotry/racism doesn't explain why he increased his vote with African-Americans and Latinos, and misogyny doesn't explain why women across the board simply didn't turn out to vote for Harris.

It was once again, an election about change. Harris offered none, and Trump still has his populist edge, like it or not.

Hardly anyone believes the mainstream media and their agenda against Trump anymore. The few that still do and are unaware of a lot of the lies that's been portrayed are in for a real reality check. Trump isn't the evil orange boogeyman, he's not a racist bigoted facists that wants to end democracy and hopefully the way things pan out from here will be nothing but positive and the divisive political culture and division between people can be somewhat repaired. That is the hope and probably a bit far fetched but I believe possible nonetheless.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

I just find it amazing that the ruling classes are surprised when the working class -ie most people - vote for smaller government, lower taxes and against mass migration. Trump is different in that he will do what he says, unlike the UK conservatives and Aust Libs who are voted in on such policies then refuse to implement.

The small government message is sold because there ARE inefficiencies, and the working class are not getting value for the working hours they are putting in. Small government advocates are playing fast and loose with who really benefits from government freed of all responsibilities to its electors though.

Once the public interest is surrendered to private concerns, what becomes the focus? Profits before people. The working poor are going to get absolutely CORNHOLED in such a scenario. Can't afford healthcare? You can die on the streets, thanks.

This is the whole Left vs Right thing though, isn't it? Collective good vs private interest.

 

[Royces Hart]

Make Australians Use Paragraphs Again

 

[Festerz]

“The forest was shrinking but the trees kept voting for the axe, for the axe was clever and convinced the trees that because his handle was made of wood he was one of them.”​

― Turkish Proverb