Autopsy US Election Day Thread - Trump 47th President of the United States

[Gethelred]

The race is run, the winner declared!

For further discussion of the election:

USA - 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

I will be keen to watch the handover on J6 I think, Will the Bidens attend unlike Trump? Will the crowd be the biggest in history, Will there be a magical Mystery victory tour and rallies like 2016, Will he reduce his golf games and stop heading North in the Summer or home to Fl in the winter...

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For discussion of the incoming president:

Play Nice - 47th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 20: If you want Capitalism, you got it

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For discussion of the losing candidate:

USA - Kamala Harris Concedes. God Help America

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Enjoy, all!

 

[MPMonkeys]

Will be interesting to see who the Dem's go with in 2028. I like Buttigieg, but don't think there's anyway they can put up a gay man. The US just won't vote for him. You can't put up another woman.

It needs to be someone young. Maybe Shapiro?

Maybe just select the best candidate regardless of their genetic pigeon hole.

 

[bourbons]

Heh. I think this is spectacular. I 100% endorse the argument that the reason people disagree with you is because they don’t know what is good for them. I find the most persuasive argument for anything is to tell people they are stupid if they don’t agree. It works on my wife all the time. Any time I find myself losing an argument with her I quickly switch to, “You just think that because you’re a moron!” It wins her over every time!

But is it true or not in the case of the wider American public? They think being able to afford medicine and hospital stays is socialism (again, just as one example)

Their culture, this rugged individualism thing they have going is a huge part of both sides of politics being able to manipulate them to the degree they always have, especially so in regards to the working poor.

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

Really? He may have been on the scene when he was younger, his policies don't show that now.

His polices are what corporate America and the military industrial complex want.

Aka the people who run America and control both parties.

 

[Vassp]

His polices are what corporate America and the military industrial complex want.

Aka the people who run America and control both parties.

where there any wars on his watch ?

 

[bourbons]

right...........

Anyone that disagrees with you is an idiot, even the commentators that are democrat leaning, which is the candidate you supposedly support.

Jake Tapper is a pretty respected commentator. As soon as he says something you dont like. Boom he is an idiot.

Classic response and why politics is hard work.

No, not everyone who disagrees with me, just CNN with respect to a few of their takes.

Right wingers now arguing how on the money CNN is, incredible stuff.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Maybe just select the best candidate regardless of their genetic pigeon hole.

Yeah. That's not how it works.

You need to pick the best candidate that can win an election.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

No, not everyone who disagrees with me, just CNN with respect to a few of their takes.

Right wingers now arguing how on the money CNN is, incredible stuff.

I'm not a right winger, and i also gave you a direct quote from Jake Tapper, so I'm unsure why you keep referring back to CNN. Again, you are bundling people into categories because they dont agree with you.

Do you not agree with what Jake is saying in that video i posted to you?

 

[H00t]

Perfectly described the woke cult then but too blinded by skin colour to realise It

So it’s not the republicans who are enforcing their religion by trying to ban abortion, healthcare for LGBT individuals and before that trying to keep same sex marriage illegal?

But it’s the woke cult for stating, “let’s not be racist, sexist and homophobic towards one another”.

Still seems pretty consistent for me. One still to wants to live without interference and the other claims to want to live without interference when all they really want to is to enforce their religion on the other group.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Should send this thread to Sky for the "Lefties losing it " segment. Got many episodes just in this thread alone.

 

[NSWCROW]

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" If you want Blood capitalism, you got it "

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

where there any wars on his watch ?

Military industrial complex is a lot more then just wars.

Research and development is a big part of it, and the us onsells weapons all over the world l.

 

[Scythe]

Look at this worm bobbing up now

 

[Saint Shags]

China just make products that are luxuries and not necessities.

People cant afford food and a house right now in alot of places. The cost of a iPad and BYD isnt all that important to anyone right now

So tariffs are going to allow people the chance to purchase houses now?

If China only make products that are luxuries then why the need to place tariffs so that jobs come to America?

 

[KAYNE]

Should send this thread to Sky for the "Lefties losing it " segment. Got many episodes just in this thread alone.

Last nights was one of the funniest. Showing the MSNBC coverage and I would be sure it was satire! It seems a lot of people in this thread must watch it and believe those lunatics.

 

[MPMonkeys]

So it’s not the republicans who are enforcing their religion by trying to ban abortion, healthcare for LGBT individuals and before that trying to keep same sex marriage illegal?

But it’s the woke cult for stating, “let’s not be racist, sexist and homophobic towards one another”.

Still seems pretty consistent for me. One still to wants to live without interference and the other claims to want to live without interference when all they really want to is to enforce their religion on the other group.

They are not trying to ban abortion - they couldn't do it even if they tried.
That decision lies with the states and if the majority in a state want an abortion ban then isn't that democracy at work?

You say 'healthcare for LGBT individuals' with an inference that gay people will no longer have access to a doctor. That is nonsense. Its very specific in that they want to wind back gender reassignment surgery for prisoners and have an age limit for gender reassignment. That is basically it. Probably impacts less than 100 people at a guess.

 

[ElectricG]

Last nights was one of the funniest. Showing the MSNBC coverage and I would be sure it was satire! It seems a lot of people in this thread must watch it and believe those lunatics.

I'm personally unhappy about the trump victory but yesterday I had the TYT coverage on hoping to salvage a bit of schadenfreude. They mostly kept themselves under control which was disappointing.

 

[Partridge]

I’m having this same conundrum with my group of 10 or so close friends. Half are now Trump supporters. Early days there were a few arguments because I was in disbelief with some of their views but now I actively avoid any political conversation.

I consider myself a centrist and want politics to be able uniting people and working towards a common good and not the disgusting rhetoric that it’s become.

These are normal people who I otherwise have no issue with but knowing their political views and stances, I just look at these people differently these days. It’s not as simple as just cutting people off.

I'm the opposite; I'll talk to anyone. Can always learn something.

John Stuart Mill covered all of this and more over 150 years ago in On Liberty:

"He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them. But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion... Nor is it enough that he should hear the opinions of adversaries from his own teachers, presented as they state them, and accompanied by what they offer as refutations. He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form."

 

[Strange Cat]

lol RFK wants to gut the entire FDA…this is going to end well welcome back super diseases…hopefully a travel ban for US citizens in their future to here

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Never underestimate the power of individuals to vote against their own self interest.

It's interesting all ready seeing Latino voters that moved decisively towards Trump acknowledging they have illegal immigrant family members in the US, but they believe they won't be impacted by any deportation.

I think a fair few people will be shocked by what the future holds.

The message coming out of the immigrant vote is the legal immigrants are not happy at the illegal immigrants getting preferential treatment

 

[BurnUp]

And Trump's an intellectual giant?

Compared to Harris he's Thomas Edison. At least he can answer a question

 

[Partridge]

Doesn't bother me either way. My Only hope is you look at both sides of the story objectively and don't get caught up on sound bites anymore. To start critically thinking on all topics as it's time for some real discussions so we can put a stop to the division and make some real postive changes.

I was fortunate to work in the US twice over the last few years, and visited there before that. Seen blue states, red states, and everything in between. Was far more valuable than relying on the same 2-3 TV networks to give me the information I only wanted to hear already. Had a few preconceptions exploded on either side.

 

[ElectricG]

Compared to Harris he's Thomas Edison. At least he can answer a question

Piss off. No he can't. To say he can string a sentence together is a stretch.

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

How dare they decide for themselves who to vote for. Who do they think they are?

How dare they get hoodwinked by a lying crook cult leader.
Anyway I was just giving the demographic stats mate.

 

[Roobs321]

That was a very classy concession speech from Kamala. Radiated truth, respect, decency and duty. Gave her supporters exactly the message they needed to hear going forward. A good sport, wholesome and not a sook. Never give up the fight, not going back, maintain hope, a setback to overcome through hard diligent faithful work and shining example.

"only when it is dark enough can you see the stars" - if things go worst-case bad for America, that snippet of vision quote is going to really sting in hindsight.

 

[OneGreatClub]