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Autopsy US Election Day Thread - Trump 47th President of the United States

Who Wins?

  • Trump 270-280

    Votes: 35 18.9%
  • Harris 270-280

    Votes: 34 18.4%
  • Trump 290-300

    Votes: 22 11.9%
  • Harris 290-300

    Votes: 32 17.3%
  • Trump 300+

    Votes: 35 18.9%
  • Harris 300+

    Votes: 18 9.7%
  • Harris 280-290

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • Trump 280-290

    Votes: 6 3.2%

  • Total voters
    185
  • Poll closed .

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During the Florida election abortion was on the ballot to advance it to 24 weeks instead of the current 6 weeks. Because of a law passed in the mid 2000s instead of needing 51% majority you need a 60% majority. The vote failed due to it getting 57%. Florida is known for having among the strictest abortion rules in the country. In a deep red state to still get 57% is pretty significant and shows Republicans don't want to ban abortion at all. Some may think 24 weeks is too late and 6 weeks definitely isn't a total abortion ban and no republicans I'm aware of is promoting or suggesting that.

The abortion advocates in Florida reached too far with that law, if they had picked 12 weeks it would be Florida constitutional law now.
 
You can’t believe anything Kennedy says though. He is barking mad.
Dunno. Anything's possible I guess. In all seriousness he has admitted a parasitic worm ate a portion of his brain. That has to have had some effect on his thought processes.

May 8, 2024

Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. experienced a series of health issues in recent years, including an abnormality that he said was caused by a worm that entered his brain and then died, The New York Times reported on Wednesday.

In 2010, Kennedy, now 70, experienced severe memory loss and mental fog, he said in a deposition two years later. According to the Times, he consulted top neurologists familiar with the medical history of his uncle, the late Sen. Ted Kennedy, who had died of brain cancer in 2009. A New York doctor, after reviewing a scan of his brain, told him that his health issues could be “caused by a worm that got into my brain and ate a portion of it and then died...”
 

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They rate civility above all else.
In a country where breaking the rules and daring people to do something is idolised, perennial belief in the system to produce just results ahead of all else simply creates a climate in which they will always, always lose.
 
The Welcome to Country is actually relevant to the extent we're actually on land that was forcibly taken from others and we should at least recognise that one of the oldest existing cultures on the planet existed, and still exists, here. Whether one thinks it's overdone or not, there's at least some level of relevance to recognising that history.

The Lord's Prayer has no relevance whatsoever.
The Lord's Prayer has specific relevance to the Government of Australia, and Christianity to the formation of the nation.
Look, I agree with you for the most part - I'd find it tedious to be sitting through a reading of the Lord's Prayer if I were to be sitting in Parliament as well.
But if you're aiming for ideological consistency, recognition of history and tradition is either applicable, or it isn't. You don't get to just cherry pick according to your own personal values.

It's a significant part of the problem I have with some of these ideologies - no consistency.

Apologies, prisoner colony.
Which state? Are we talking about the foundation of Australia here, or just a part of it?

I linked to an actual study to support exactly what I said.
Not in the post I quoted. Things move fast in this thread.
 
Thanks Hoot, i'll take my understanding of the Republican party over yours. As i've said before, you can relax - they won't be doing this.
I can only imagine you’d have thought Trump starting an insurrection would have been impossible in 2020 as well.

It’s not that he will 100% do these things but that him and his party will be working to enact such things.
 
Celebrity endorsements are cringeworthy and didn’t move the needle at all for Harris.

They voted for a renowned child sniffing 2 brain anasrim dementia sufferer
What evidence do you have that Biden has dementia?

That’s extremely stigmatizing to actual dementia sufferers and their families.
 
Bloke keeps on getting hired by clowns!
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What's the alternative? Claim the election was rigged and storm the capitol building like a pack of man babies?

You can accept the results and also say that the result is terrible and maintain the position that Trump goes against all their core values. You can't pivot from saying "this guy is a threat to everything we love and hold dear" to "I wish you luck Mr President-Elect. Your success is America's success."
 
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He'd get a shock if he moved to Scandanvian nations.....


up to 70% tax there. however education (all levels), transport, healthcare is all totally free.

If it's being paid for with taxes it's not free. It's just being paid for/subsidized by someone else.

Used to joke with a dole bludging mate of my dad's that he had to shout at the pub because my taxes were paying for him to hang out at home all week.
 
I can only imagine you’d have thought Trump starting an insurrection would have been impossible in 2020 as well.

It’s not that he will 100% do these things but that him and his party will be working to enact such things.

That is the thing, so much has been normalised.

My guess is they will continue go a bit further and further with their agenda, and his supporters will continue to rationalise it, until it actually has a direct impact on them.
 
I think one thing to remember is that all empires have fallen. No saying that the US will fall under hopefully 2 years of unchecked Trump (if Dems can win the house in the midterms), but the US will no longer be the dominant world super power at some stage. It's a question as always of when, not if.

Exactly, I'm not even close to knowledgeable on the topics of world politics but I'm hoping Australia will continue to strengthen relationships with India, NATO and Japan going forward with the likelihood of the U.S downhill trajectory.

Though I guess there's always a chance that one of Russia or China actually sort their shit out and join democracy again with a decent leader.
 

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Exactly, I'm not even close to knowledgeable on the topics of world politics but I'm hoping Australia will continue to strengthen relationships with India, NATO and Japan going forward with the likelihood of the U.S downhill trajectory.

Though I guess there's always a chance that one of Russia or China actually sort their shit out and join democracy again with a decent leader.
Don't think it's controversial to say China is going to be the next World Leader when change does happen. We need to prioritise that relationship more, and i'm sorry Taiwan. I feel for you, but eeekkkk
 
The exact numbers are in the study. They're rates based on population size, not just total. So having more people is irrelevant in this case.

Many, many businesses have low-paid cash employees. Didn't Trump employee a heap of them as maids or some such?

As for your last sentence, you're being ridiculous and making shit up.
Based on population size not just total? You know that doesn't make sense right. Yeah many low paying jobs to people with working visas, citizenships ECT it's currently illegal to hire illegal immigrants and guess what that's been the law longer than both of us have been alive and is the law in majority of countries.
 
The war in Yemen for starters. One of the first things Trump did as president last time was sign a huge arms contract with the Saudis. Arms the Saudis then used to bomb the crap out of Yemen. In 2018 US Congress voted to stop supplying arms against Yemen due to huge civilian losses. Trump personally veto'd this and signed an executive order to keep arm supplies to the Saudis.
Do you mean the same congress that has stopped supplying arms to Israel this time round?

Blinded by the light, la la la la la........
 
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