Bigman’s Training Reports

[George CantStandYa]

For what it's worth, when Adam Kelly was asked how much say Roo had at the club in terms of selection and match day his response was "minimal".

I don’t expect he would for selection and match day, but he would recruiting, list management, key appointments, the big stuff. Which ultimately impacts selection and match day if you help recruit and re-sign a useless coach.

 

[Shifty Crow]

Theres no chance, not all at one.

Laird's in, though if he plays as he did at the back end of last season on a flank he'll be under pressure.

Milera looks to have done enough to make the coaches happy, IMO its out of he, Nank and Jones. 2 MIGHT get in.

Smith is almost no chance of featuring at all unless the 4 guys ive mentioned are injured. Im very confident with that statement.

Haven’t we learnt from past sins

Milera takes time to build form and confidence after a long lay off ..

We have seen this rodeo before - looks a new recruit in pre-season, plays ok in trial games but struggles in the early real games for points

There is zero need to rush him back for round 1 - let him build form and confidence in the sanfl and force him to take Nank’s spot in the team


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[Kane McGoodwin]

Have there been any reports on Sholl?

Bone bruising on the knee. Can be very slow-healing. I wonder if he's a lock for Round 1?

We saw with Soligo that it only took a 3 week ankle for him in January for him to lose his spot in the 22, reinstated instantly only because of the most insipid opening three quarters to a season I've ever seen.

When there are 27 guys deserving a starting 22 spot the coaches have to look for justifiable reasons not to pick some players. Injuries, even minor ones, become a convenience and mean coaches don't have to make a hard call.

Absolutely we should not be risking any injured or underdone players for round 1, given we have decent depth.

Sounds like Michaelanny may be in doubt too, but we have plenty of others including Nankervis & Bond who otherwise look like missing (though I would pick Nank any way).

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Think Murphy can play wing at a pinch

Yeah, Nah!

 

[Cromulant]

Haven’t we learnt from past sins

Milera takes time to build form and confidence after a long lay off ..

We have seen this rodeo before - looks a new recruit in pre-season, plays ok in trial games but struggles in the early real games for points

There is zero need to rush him back for round 1 - let him build form and confidence in the sanfl and force him to take Nank’s spot in the team


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I agree there's zero need, but I'd argue we've seen him play OK in trial games.

He's either been very good in them, or he gets hurt. I wouldn't be picking him myself, but the next 2 weeks will determine that. We've got a long line of players who could play the role, it's going to come down to a shootout of sorts.

 

[cleanhands]

Think Murphy can play wing at a pinch

That’s not even funny

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

That’s not even funny

Some jokes should not be joked about...

 

[FR0GGY]

Think Murphy can play wing at a pinch

That’s excellent as we need two of those in the sanfl.

 

[Crow till I die]

Lucky he’s only 15kg so shouldn’t have much weight on the knee.

Luckily he didn't play in that strong wind at Pt Pirie, he might have got blown away and ended up in the gulf

 

[FR0GGY]

Luckily he didn't play in that strong wind at Pt Pirie, he might have got blown away and ended up in the gulf

He started at the ground but he blew away before the first bounce.
Sholl out - blown away

 

[adelaidecrows]

Haven’t we learnt from past sins

Milera takes time to build form and confidence after a long lay off ..

We have seen this rodeo before - looks a new recruit in pre-season, plays ok in trial games but struggles in the early real games for points

There is zero need to rush him back for round 1 - let him build form and confidence in the sanfl and force him to take Nank’s spot in the team


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I think it really depends. If he doesnt show anything in trial games and is struggling to get involved then sure should start in the Sanfl. But you cant be serious about starting him in the Sanfl regardless of whether he plays well in the trial games. If he plays well and deserves to be picked he gets selected. However, in a fully fit squad the question is does Milera get a spot based on the players available anyway considering we have 5 players to insert into our best 23.

At this stage, round 1 selection is shaping up to be the most difficult of Nicks coaching career. Everyone appears to be fit and firing. Even players that we put lines through are putting their hand up to be considered.

 

[bigman]

Given the lack of a training report i thought id take another look at last Friday’s game and give some stats for you.

Given these won’t be absolutely spot on due to the feed quality plus a slight bit of the game is missing in the replay, but hopefully these give a pretty good indication regardless. AF is fantasy points.

1. Jones - 6 kicks, 6 handballs, 2 marks, 2 goals, 1 free against, 2 clearances, 45 AF

2. Keays - 8 kicks, 7 handballs, 2 marks, 7 tackles, 1 goal, 1 behind, 1 free for, 2 frees against, 2 clearances, 2 goal assists, 74 AF

3. Berry - 6 kicks, 6 handballs, 1 mark, 4 tackles, 2 frees against, 3 clearances, 43 AF

4. Murphy - 5 kicks, 4 handballs, 1 mark, 2 tackles, 1 free for, 1 clearance, 1 goal assist, 35 AF

5. Crouch - 13 kicks, 11 handballs, 5 marks, 1 tackle, 6 clearances, 80 AF

6. Curtin - 8 kicks, 7 handballs, 5 marks, 1 tackle, 1 hit out, 1 goal, 2 behinds, 1 free for, 1 goal assist, 67 AF

7. Thilthorpe - 8 kicks, 5 handballs, 4 marks, 1 tackle, 9 hit outs, 2 goals, 3 frees for, 2 clearances, 2 goal assists, 74 AF

8. Rachele - 8 kicks, 5 handballs, 3 marks, 1 tackle, 3 goals, 1 behind, 1 free for, 1 free against, 2 clearances, 67 AF

9. Murray - 8 kicks, 2 handballs, 4 marks, 1 tackle, 44 AF

10. Pedlar - 1 kick, 1 free against, 0 AF (injured)

11. Edwards - 6 kicks, 2 handballs, 1 mark, 1 tackle, 29 AF

12. Dawson - 13 kicks, 4 handballs, 5 marks, 4 tackles, 1 goal, 1 free for, 1 free against, 1 clearance, 1 goal assist, 82 AF

13. Walker - 9 kicks, 6 handballs, 6 marks, 3 tackles, 2 hit outs, 4 goals, 3 frees for, 1 clearance, 2 goal assists, 98 AF

14. Soligo - 14 kicks, 13 handballs, 5 marks, 2 tackles, 1 goal, 2 frees against, 4 clearances, 2 goal assists, 91 AF

15. Cook - 3 kicks, 5 handballs, 1 mark, 2 tackles, 1 behind, 2 frees for, 33 AF

16. Michalanney - 3 kicks, 9 AF (injured)

17. Welsh - 1 kick, 1 handball, 1 mark, 1 behind, 1 free against, 6 AF

19. Taylor - 11 kicks, 7 handballs, 4 marks, 10 tackles, 1 free for, 1 free against, 4 clearances, 97 AF

20. Hinge - 7 kicks, 2 handballs, 2 marks, 1 tackle, 1 free for, 1 free against, 33 AF

21. Burgess - 1 kick, 1 handball, 1 mark, 2 tackles, 16 AF

22. Ryan - 7 kicks, 5 handballs, 1 mark, 2 tackles, 2 frees against, 36 AF

24. Worrell - 8 kicks, 4 handballs, 7 marks, 1 tackle, 1 free for, 58 AF

25. Peatling - 9 kicks, 12 handballs, 2 marks, 2 tackles, 1 free for, 1 free against, 6 clearances, 63 AF

26. Schoenberg - 10 kicks, 9 handballs, 1 mark, 7 tackles, 2 frees for, 1 free against, 7 clearances, 78 AF

27. Nankervis - 3 kicks, 8 handballs, 3 marks, 2 tackles, 1 goal, 48 AF

28. Neal-Bullen - 8 kicks, 7 handballs, 1 mark, 1 tackle, 2 goals, 1 free against, 2 clearances, 54 AF

29. Laird - 10 kicks, 7 handballs, 2 marks, 2 tackles, 2 frees for, 60 AF

30. Milera - 10 kicks, 3 handballs, 4 marks, 4 tackles, 1 free for, 65 AF

31. Dowling - 8 kicks, 3 handballs, 7 marks, 2 tackles, 1 goal, 1 behind, 1 free against, 1 clearance, 63 AF

32. Fogarty - 4 kicks, 1 handball, 3 marks, 2 tackles, 1 goal, 1 free against, 34 AF

33. Smith - 10 kicks, 4 handballs, 2 marks, 1 free against, 41 AF

34. Draper - 14 kicks, 11 handballs, 3 marks, 3 tackles, 1 goal, 3 behinds, 1 free for, 10 clearances, 98 AF

35. Borlase - 4 kicks, 3 handballs, 2 marks, 1 tackle, 28 AF

36. Gallagher - 3 kicks, 1 handball, 1 mark, 1 goal, 1 free for, 1 free against, 18 AF

39. Murray - 9 kicks, 1 handball, 5 marks, 2 tackles, 4 hit outs, 2 goals, 1 behind, 1 free against, 1 goal assist, 66 AF

40. Bond - 5 kicks, 7 handballs, 2 marks, 2 tackles, 2 frees for, 2 frees against, 39 AF

41. Butts - 5 kicks, 5 handballs, 2 marks, 1 tackle, 1 behind, 39 AF

43. O’Brien - 8 kicks, 7 handballs, 1 mark, 5 tackles, 25 hit outs, 1 goal, 5 frees for, 1 free against, 7 clearances, 2 goal assists, 94 AF

44. Cumming - 8 kicks, 4 handballs, 5 marks, 1 tackle, 1 goal, 2 frees for, 59 AF

48. Keane - 12 kicks, 3 handballs, 9 marks, 2 frees against, 1 goal assist, 63 AF

Centre Bounce Attendances (out of 31):
O’Brien - 29
Schoenberg - 28
Berry - 25
Dawson - 25
Draper - 21
Peatling - 18
Taylor - 15
Soligo - 14
T. Murray - 4
Rachele - 4
Thilthorpe - 2

Kick-outs:
Keane - 5
Ryan - 4
Edwards - 3
Worrell - 2
Smith - 1
Bond - 1
Murray - 1
Hinge - 1
Butts - 1

 

[Peter Doherty]

Given the lack of a training report i thought id take another look at last Friday’s game and give some stats for you.

Given these won’t be absolutely spot on due to the feed quality plus a slight bit of the game is missing in the replay, but hopefully these give a pretty good indication regardless. AF is fantasy points.

1. Jones - 6 kicks, 6 handballs, 2 marks, 2 goals, 1 free against, 2 clearances, 45 AF

2. Keays - 8 kicks, 7 handballs, 2 marks, 7 tackles, 1 goal, 1 behind, 1 free for, 2 frees against, 2 clearances, 2 goal assists, 74 AF

3. Berry - 6 kicks, 6 handballs, 1 mark, 4 tackles, 2 frees against, 3 clearances, 43 AF

4. Murphy - 5 kicks, 4 handballs, 1 mark, 2 tackles, 1 free for, 1 clearance, 1 goal assist, 35 AF

5. Crouch - 13 kicks, 11 handballs, 5 marks, 1 tackle, 6 clearances, 80 AF

6. Curtin - 8 kicks, 7 handballs, 5 marks, 1 tackle, 1 hit out, 1 goal, 2 behinds, 1 free for, 1 goal assist, 67 AF

7. Thilthorpe - 8 kicks, 5 handballs, 4 marks, 1 tackle, 9 hit outs, 2 goals, 3 frees for, 2 clearances, 2 goal assists, 74 AF

8. Rachele - 8 kicks, 5 handballs, 3 marks, 1 tackle, 3 goals, 1 behind, 1 free for, 1 free against, 2 clearances, 67 AF

9. Murray - 8 kicks, 2 handballs, 4 marks, 1 tackle, 44 AF

10. Pedlar - 1 kick, 1 free against, 0 AF (injured)

11. Edwards - 6 kicks, 2 handballs, 1 mark, 1 tackle, 29 AF

12. Dawson - 13 kicks, 4 handballs, 5 marks, 4 tackles, 1 goal, 1 free for, 1 free against, 1 clearance, 1 goal assist, 82 AF

13. Walker - 9 kicks, 6 handballs, 6 marks, 3 tackles, 2 hit outs, 4 goals, 3 frees for, 1 clearance, 2 goal assists, 98 AF

14. Soligo - 14 kicks, 13 handballs, 5 marks, 2 tackles, 1 goal, 2 frees against, 4 clearances, 2 goal assists, 91 AF

15. Cook - 3 kicks, 5 handballs, 1 mark, 2 tackles, 1 behind, 2 frees for, 33 AF

16. Michalanney - 3 kicks, 9 AF (injured)

17. Welsh - 1 kick, 1 handball, 1 mark, 1 behind, 1 free against, 6 AF

19. Taylor - 11 kicks, 7 handballs, 4 marks, 10 tackles, 1 free for, 1 free against, 4 clearances, 97 AF

20. Hinge - 7 kicks, 2 handballs, 2 marks, 1 tackle, 1 free for, 1 free against, 33 AF

21. Burgess - 1 kick, 1 handball, 1 mark, 2 tackles, 16 AF

22. Ryan - 7 kicks, 5 handballs, 1 mark, 2 tackles, 2 frees against, 36 AF

24. Worrell - 8 kicks, 4 handballs, 7 marks, 1 tackle, 1 free for, 58 AF

25. Peatling - 9 kicks, 12 handballs, 2 marks, 2 tackles, 1 free for, 1 free against, 6 clearances, 63 AF

26. Schoenberg - 10 kicks, 9 handballs, 1 mark, 7 tackles, 2 frees for, 1 free against, 7 clearances, 78 AF

27. Nankervis - 3 kicks, 8 handballs, 3 marks, 2 tackles, 1 goal, 48 AF

28. Neal-Bullen - 8 kicks, 7 handballs, 1 mark, 1 tackle, 2 goals, 1 free against, 2 clearances, 54 AF

29. Laird - 10 kicks, 7 handballs, 2 marks, 2 tackles, 2 frees for, 60 AF

30. Milera - 10 kicks, 3 handballs, 4 marks, 4 tackles, 1 free for, 65 AF

31. Dowling - 8 kicks, 3 handballs, 7 marks, 2 tackles, 1 goal, 1 behind, 1 free against, 1 clearance, 63 AF

32. Fogarty - 4 kicks, 1 handball, 3 marks, 2 tackles, 1 goal, 1 free against, 34 AF

33. Smith - 10 kicks, 4 handballs, 2 marks, 1 free against, 41 AF

34. Draper - 14 kicks, 11 handballs, 3 marks, 3 tackles, 1 goal, 3 behinds, 1 free for, 10 clearances, 98 AF

35. Borlase - 4 kicks, 3 handballs, 2 marks, 1 tackle, 28 AF

36. Gallagher - 3 kicks, 1 handball, 1 mark, 1 goal, 1 free for, 1 free against, 18 AF

39. Murray - 9 kicks, 1 handball, 5 marks, 2 tackles, 4 hit outs, 2 goals, 1 behind, 1 free against, 1 goal assist, 66 AF

40. Bond - 5 kicks, 7 handballs, 2 marks, 2 tackles, 2 frees for, 2 frees against, 39 AF

41. Butts - 5 kicks, 5 handballs, 2 marks, 1 tackle, 1 behind, 39 AF

43. O’Brien - 8 kicks, 7 handballs, 1 mark, 5 tackles, 25 hit outs, 1 goal, 5 frees for, 1 free against, 7 clearances, 2 goal assists, 94 AF

44. Cumming - 8 kicks, 4 handballs, 5 marks, 1 tackle, 1 goal, 2 frees for, 59 AF

48. Keane - 12 kicks, 3 handballs, 9 marks, 2 frees against, 1 goal assist, 63 AF

Centre Bounce Attendances (out of 31):
O’Brien - 29
Schoenberg - 28
Berry - 25
Dawson - 25
Draper - 21
Peatling - 18
Taylor - 15
Soligo - 14
T. Murray - 4
Rachele - 4
Thilthorpe - 2

Kick-ins:
Keane - 5
Ryan - 4
Edwards - 3
Worrell - 2
Smith - 1
Bond - 1
Murray - 1
Hinge - 1
Butts - 1

No metres gained stats?

Lazy.

 

[GrommoT]

big-rain-man ?

 

[Trigger13]

Taylor had a very good game. 10 tackles shows he’s working hard and getting to each contest.

Draper with 25 disposals too. Lessgoooo

 

[spenze]

Taylor had a very good game. 10 tackles shows he’s working hard and getting to each contest.

Draper with 25 disposals too. Lessgoooo

Yeah, that was the thing that stood out big time in the stats for me. We need to find a way to have Taylor in the team, the guy is a big talent.

 

[1990crow]

Taylor had a very good game. 10 tackles shows he’s working hard and getting to each contest.

Draper with 25 disposals too. Lessgoooo

Draper stats legit surprising. But also will make me watch him closer on Friday.

 

[crows dude]

Given the lack of a training report i thought id take another look at last Friday’s game and give some stats for you.

Given these won’t be absolutely spot on due to the feed quality plus a slight bit of the game is missing in the replay, but hopefully these give a pretty good indication regardless. AF is fantasy points.

1. Jones - 6 kicks, 6 handballs, 2 marks, 2 goals, 1 free against, 2 clearances, 45 AF

2. Keays - 8 kicks, 7 handballs, 2 marks, 7 tackles, 1 goal, 1 behind, 1 free for, 2 frees against, 2 clearances, 2 goal assists, 74 AF

3. Berry - 6 kicks, 6 handballs, 1 mark, 4 tackles, 2 frees against, 3 clearances, 43 AF

4. Murphy - 5 kicks, 4 handballs, 1 mark, 2 tackles, 1 free for, 1 clearance, 1 goal assist, 35 AF

5. Crouch - 13 kicks, 11 handballs, 5 marks, 1 tackle, 6 clearances, 80 AF

6. Curtin - 8 kicks, 7 handballs, 5 marks, 1 tackle, 1 hit out, 1 goal, 2 behinds, 1 free for, 1 goal assist, 67 AF

7. Thilthorpe - 8 kicks, 5 handballs, 4 marks, 1 tackle, 9 hit outs, 2 goals, 3 frees for, 2 clearances, 2 goal assists, 74 AF

8. Rachele - 8 kicks, 5 handballs, 3 marks, 1 tackle, 3 goals, 1 behind, 1 free for, 1 free against, 2 clearances, 67 AF

9. Murray - 8 kicks, 2 handballs, 4 marks, 1 tackle, 44 AF

10. Pedlar - 1 kick, 1 free against, 0 AF (injured)

11. Edwards - 6 kicks, 2 handballs, 1 mark, 1 tackle, 29 AF

12. Dawson - 13 kicks, 4 handballs, 5 marks, 4 tackles, 1 goal, 1 free for, 1 free against, 1 clearance, 1 goal assist, 82 AF

13. Walker - 9 kicks, 6 handballs, 6 marks, 3 tackles, 2 hit outs, 4 goals, 3 frees for, 1 clearance, 2 goal assists, 98 AF

14. Soligo - 14 kicks, 13 handballs, 5 marks, 2 tackles, 1 goal, 2 frees against, 4 clearances, 2 goal assists, 91 AF

15. Cook - 3 kicks, 5 handballs, 1 mark, 2 tackles, 1 behind, 2 frees for, 33 AF

16. Michalanney - 3 kicks, 9 AF (injured)

17. Welsh - 1 kick, 1 handball, 1 mark, 1 behind, 1 free against, 6 AF

19. Taylor - 11 kicks, 7 handballs, 4 marks, 10 tackles, 1 free for, 1 free against, 4 clearances, 97 AF

20. Hinge - 7 kicks, 2 handballs, 2 marks, 1 tackle, 1 free for, 1 free against, 33 AF

21. Burgess - 1 kick, 1 handball, 1 mark, 2 tackles, 16 AF

22. Ryan - 7 kicks, 5 handballs, 1 mark, 2 tackles, 2 frees against, 36 AF

24. Worrell - 8 kicks, 4 handballs, 7 marks, 1 tackle, 1 free for, 58 AF

25. Peatling - 9 kicks, 12 handballs, 2 marks, 2 tackles, 1 free for, 1 free against, 6 clearances, 63 AF

26. Schoenberg - 10 kicks, 9 handballs, 1 mark, 7 tackles, 2 frees for, 1 free against, 7 clearances, 78 AF

27. Nankervis - 3 kicks, 8 handballs, 3 marks, 2 tackles, 1 goal, 48 AF

28. Neal-Bullen - 8 kicks, 7 handballs, 1 mark, 1 tackle, 2 goals, 1 free against, 2 clearances, 54 AF

29. Laird - 10 kicks, 7 handballs, 2 marks, 2 tackles, 2 frees for, 60 AF

30. Milera - 10 kicks, 3 handballs, 4 marks, 4 tackles, 1 free for, 65 AF

31. Dowling - 8 kicks, 3 handballs, 7 marks, 2 tackles, 1 goal, 1 behind, 1 free against, 1 clearance, 63 AF

32. Fogarty - 4 kicks, 1 handball, 3 marks, 2 tackles, 1 goal, 1 free against, 34 AF

33. Smith - 10 kicks, 4 handballs, 2 marks, 1 free against, 41 AF

34. Draper - 14 kicks, 11 handballs, 3 marks, 3 tackles, 1 goal, 3 behinds, 1 free for, 10 clearances, 98 AF

35. Borlase - 4 kicks, 3 handballs, 2 marks, 1 tackle, 28 AF

36. Gallagher - 3 kicks, 1 handball, 1 mark, 1 goal, 1 free for, 1 free against, 18 AF

39. Murray - 9 kicks, 1 handball, 5 marks, 2 tackles, 4 hit outs, 2 goals, 1 behind, 1 free against, 1 goal assist, 66 AF

40. Bond - 5 kicks, 7 handballs, 2 marks, 2 tackles, 2 frees for, 2 frees against, 39 AF

41. Butts - 5 kicks, 5 handballs, 2 marks, 1 tackle, 1 behind, 39 AF

43. O’Brien - 8 kicks, 7 handballs, 1 mark, 5 tackles, 25 hit outs, 1 goal, 5 frees for, 1 free against, 7 clearances, 2 goal assists, 94 AF

44. Cumming - 8 kicks, 4 handballs, 5 marks, 1 tackle, 1 goal, 2 frees for, 59 AF

48. Keane - 12 kicks, 3 handballs, 9 marks, 2 frees against, 1 goal assist, 63 AF

Centre Bounce Attendances (out of 31):
O’Brien - 29
Schoenberg - 28
Berry - 25
Dawson - 25
Draper - 21
Peatling - 18
Taylor - 15
Soligo - 14
T. Murray - 4
Rachele - 4
Thilthorpe - 2

Kick-outs:
Keane - 5
Ryan - 4
Edwards - 3
Worrell - 2
Smith - 1
Bond - 1
Murray - 1
Hinge - 1
Butts - 1

Could have sworn Curtin kicked 2-3. Must have mistaken Walker goals for him. Didnt think Walker had 4.

 

[Jarman3]

You don't think Smith will be helping with the development of the side while playing in the SANFL?

I don't think he gets near the AFL side, but I think he still has something to offer.

He doesn't need to be taking up a spot on the AFL list for that. Have him as a SANFL player (not sure if the rules allow that, though?) or give him a coaching role or something.

Makes no sense to keep him on the AFL list if he's not a best 22 player at his age. He's playing a position we have plenty of depth in, meanwhile we don't have a spare list spot for a ruckman, a position for which we have close to zero depth.

 

[PeterSalt]

A fairly short read

AFL and NRL pre-seasons are among the longest in world sport – here’s why

Months of training in the summer heat may seem like overkill but there’s good reasons the AFL and NRL pre-seasons are so long.

theconversation.com

 

[cmndstab]

Could have sworn Curtin kicked 2-3. Must have mistaken Walker goals for him. Didnt think Walker had 4.

I think Marinoff said that Curtin had two at one point, but she was mistaken. One goal according to the AFC.com.au article.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Taylor had a very good game. 10 tackles shows he’s working hard and getting to each contest.

Draper with 25 disposals too. Lessgoooo

Taylor always comes good when the footys come out

 

[Trigger13]

Taylor always comes good when the footys come out

Let’s hope the coaches see it that way and start to value his footy smarts over the non statistical Murphys of the world. I’m not holding my breath. Can see him getting limited opportunities.

 

[ams4crows]

If Murphy ever gets a game in front of Taylor I'll spew. Taylor is supremely more talented.

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

If Murphy ever gets a game in front of Taylor I'll spew. Taylor is supremely more talented.

Can he keep shape though?