Play Nice 47th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 21: Alien vs Predator

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[samFFC]

This community note wont last long

"Give them all the information " is going to be the RFK version of "Thoughts and Prayers"
FMD can this get any more absurd?

Yup

Absolutely **** the GOP doctor Senators who accepted his nomination.

Disgusting.

 

[samFFC]

Very positive from Rubio. Gained a spine out of the other week.

Ukraine war briefing: Ball is now in Russia’s court, says Rubio, after Kyiv accepts ceasefire proposal

US secretary of state says Ukraine ready to stop fighting but if Moscow refuses, ‘we’ll unfortunately know what the impediment is to peace’. What we know on day 1,113

www.theguardian.com

“ Marco Rubio, the US secretary of state, said the ball was “now in Russia’s court” after Ukraine said it was ready to accept an immediate 30-day ceasefire. “If they [Russia] say no then we’ll unfortunately know what the impediment is to peace here,” he said. “Ukrainians are ready to stop the fighting, they’re ready to stop the shooting, they’re ready to get to the table,” Rubio told reporters in Jeddah, after negotiations between US and Ukrainian officials in Saudi Arabia.

 

[samFFC]

The irony

Conservative comedians the Hodgetwins replied by pointing out that Volkswagen was "literally founded" by the Nazis, to which Musk replied with a laughing emoji and a "100" sign.

Elon Musk points to Volkswagen's Nazi links after Alyssa Milano swaps her Tesla for a VW over 'hate and white supremacy' on Twitter

The new Twitter owner was responding to a tweet from the actress who questioned advertisers continuing to use the platform amid hate speech.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[samFFC]

Posting this for no apparent reason.

 

[samFFC]

 

[Visions]

The closing paragraph.

White House spokesperson slams Japan for 700% rice tariff | NHK WORLD-JAPAN News

The White House press secretary has criticized Japan over a tariff it imposes on US rice imports.

www3.nhk.or.jp

This nimrod is the US propaganda equivalent of Baghdad Bob. Everyone laughed at him with his outright lies like they should be doing to her.

 

[Visions]

Interesting article suggesting Musks star is dimming within the White House

The only question now is how Trump gets rid of Musk

Having given the billionaire more power than any private figure in US history, the president is watching his benefactor turn into an albatross.

www.afr.com

Trump ain’t abandoning him. They’re going to go down together like Thelma and Louise.

There’s going be many more corrupt grifting Tesla infomercials to come.

 

[Visions]

Very positive from Rubio. Gained a spine out of the other week.

Ukraine war briefing: Ball is now in Russia’s court, says Rubio, after Kyiv accepts ceasefire proposal

US secretary of state says Ukraine ready to stop fighting but if Moscow refuses, ‘we’ll unfortunately know what the impediment is to peace’. What we know on day 1,113

www.theguardian.com

Wait until he has to tell Trump about this!

 

[Festerz]

Very positive from Rubio. Gained a spine out of the other week.

But of course this cease fire deal - even if agreed by the Russians - is not the end game that Trump is making it out to be.

Russia has failed to adhere to any long term treaty deal in relation to Ukraine - going as far back as the Budapest Memorandum of 1994 when Ukraine yielded its nuclear weapons in exchange for security guarantees from the U.S., U.K. and Russia. So why would they adhere to lasting peace in Ukraine now - especially now that they have made major incursions on the battlefield in recent weeks?

Zelenskyy and European governments know this far too well - they only need to look back to what happened with the Minsk agreements signed from 2014 when talking peace in Ukraine.

The Minsk agreements ultimately failed to secure a durable peace. Just like what Trump and Rubio are proposing now, the Minsk Agreements focussed on stalling the conflict rather than resolve it. What they did do was to allow Russia to consolidate control over the occupied territories while keeping Ukraine politically and militarily constrained. Moscow never adhered to its commitments, using the diplomatic process to buy time, regroup and prepare for further aggression.

As always, Trump is only focussed on the short term illusion of the deal - how a ceasefire agreement will make him look to his MAGA supporters - the idiotic rhetoric of how he is a 'winner' compared to Biden. Unlike Trump, Putin, Zelenskyy and the Ukraine people understand history and are focussed on a much longer timeframe and what happens when the ceasefire agreement, like every agreement before it, falls over.

 

[Festerz]

 

[Demonic Ascent]

In most cases, countries aren’t selling to US markets. Individual companies are selling to US markets.

What happens to prices will, in part, depend on price elasticity of demand for imported steel in the US. Given it’s not a branded product (though there may be grade/quality variations), if there is sufficient domestic US supply, US suppliers can mop up the shortfall, either at the price they were already selling or (more likely) at a higher price since all their competitors’ prices just went up by 25%.

If there isn’t sufficient US domestic supply, how will a price increase affect demand? If it reduces demand significantly, some overseas companies may reduce their price to increase demand for their product, meaning they will bear the cost of the tariff in the form of lower profitability. However, if steel is an essential product, US buyers will have to keep buying at the higher cost and they’ll bear the tariff. That’s in the short run.

In the longer run, US production of steel might increase - that’s what Trump is trying to achieve - but it might not be an efficient use of capital and resources.

That’s a fairly simplistic (Econ 101) explanation of what might happen. In reality it will be messier.

Australia’s record gold exports to US set back its case for tariff relief as Trump trade war looms

Industries across the country are bracing for the impact of the Trump administration’s worldwide tariff regime

www.theguardian.com

How is raising the tariffs not in breach of the various Free Trade Agreements? GATT, NAFTA et al? Or is it and he just doesn't care because the WTO like the ICJ and other international courts/tribunals are toothless tigers?

 

[campbell]

The only way to snap Trump and his band of idiots out of this, is to hit them in the hip pocket.

Stop buying American anything, go Australian everything.

Dont plan American travel.

For me, no Amazon, Netflix cancelled. Nothing from Supermarket or alcohol from America.

Support our economy, that they have decided to ruin.

Grow some spine, decline American......

 

[iDon]

Well seen this before, just waiting for John to flip again in the next few hours. Such a coward.

 

[liz]

Well seen this before, just waiting for John to flip again in the next few hours. Such a coward.

As I understand it, a couple of Dem senators supporting the bill won’t get it through. It needs 60 votes to pass.

 

[iDon]

As I understand it, a couple of Dem senators supporting the bill won’t get it through. It needs 60 votes to pass.

Ahh, i really should read up a bit more on the senate rules. Thanks.

 

[Gough]

The only way to snap Trump and his band of idiots out of this, is to hit them in the hip pocket.

Stop buying American anything, go Australian everything.

Dont plan American travel.

For me, no Amazon, Netflix cancelled. Nothing from Supermarket or alcohol from America.

Support our economy, that they have decided to ruin.

Grow some spine, decline American......

It's posturing unless we ban super funds from investing in American markets.

 

[Chief]

Prime is bezos owned , interesting

When is home alone 2 going to get 24/7 reruns

AI replace Trump with Obama and watch the melts

 

[Satan]

AI replace Trump with Obama and watch the melts

Or oogac

 

[Demonic Ascent]

Trump is deliberately misleading, or himself doesn’t understand.

Either way, it can be simplified to:

It’s a tax on a product.

if that product is completed (eg a TV, a car), the consumer pays directly

If that product is a natural resource or other input (eg steel, gold, iron ore, microchips), then the company that will use that in their production pays it, and then passes onto consumer, so the consumer pays indirectly.


Either way, American consumers are paying for them.
Their economy will suffer.
Their people will suffer.
Not much else to it.

And while these policies push prices up people are being laid off in huge numbers by DOGE. This isn't going to end well for anyone.

 

[Nikita Blue]

EPA head says he'll roll back dozens of environmental regulations, including rules on climate change

The head of the Environmental Protection Agency has announced a series of actions to roll back landmark environmental regulations, including rules on pollution from coal-fired power plants, climate change and electric vehicles.

apnews.com

I want to hear again from those posters who said nothing Trump does is going to affect us here.

 

[iDon]

What does this DEI hire actually do? Except drop some absolute bangers of stupidity on Fox and Friends

 

[Satan]

What does this DEI hire actually do? Except drop some absolute bangers of stupidity on Fox and Friends

If her name was not Trump she would not be on

 

[barreness]

This is truly disgusting and the main reason trump needs to be gotten rid of asap.

'Trump’s ‘drill, baby, drill’ agenda could keep the world hooked on oil and gas
The US president is making energy deals with Japan and Ukraine, and in Africa has even touted resurrecting coal.'

Trump’s ‘drill, baby, drill’ agenda could keep the world hooked on oil and gas

The US president is making energy deals with Japan and Ukraine, and in Africa has even touted resurrecting coal

www.theguardian.com

Biden fossil maxxed tbf, no one in the US elite will even attempt to solve this problem, that much is clear

 

[Nikita Blue]

With the gutting of the EPA and the ushering in of a new golden age of pollution can add birth defects and cancers to the communicable diseases Kennedy is about to unleash.

 

[RCAB]

The only way to snap Trump and his band of idiots out of this, is to hit them in the hip pocket.

Stop buying American anything, go Australian everything.

Dont plan American travel.

For me, no Amazon, Netflix cancelled. Nothing from Supermarket or alcohol from America.

Support our economy, that they have decided to ruin.

Grow some spine, decline American......

I've already touched on this numerous times in this forum.

I personally don’t disagree with your principle and hitting the hip pocket always hurts them. But America's shadow is baked into our economy far deeper than just Netflix and Amazon. The supermarket scanner? US tech. Your phone apps? US infrastructure. Most logistics, payment processors, data servers, digital identity layers... all hooked to the US digital nervous system.

Boycotting American consumerism alone is symbolic (useful), but not strategic. If we’re serious, we need to build leverage, not just withdraw. That means developing Australian-owned alternatives in digital services, manufacturing, media, infrastructure, cloud platforms, renewable tech, even fintech layers. Otherwise we’re just declining American while still leaning on them for the basics.

A real economic firewall isn’t built at checkout, it’s built in code, in industry, in policy, in narrative ownership. If all we do is cancel Netflix while our banks run on Oracle and our media servers ping AWS, we’re still caught in the trap.

You want to decline America? Then replace them. Out create them.