Opinion Has this Carlton list already peaked?

[GC2015]

See in 4 weeks time.

But i do think they miss finals.

just come up short 2025.

Kind of back to the drawing board in some ways.

I tip Blues finish in 10th spot on the ladder this season.

Don't think they were expecting to be belted by 10 goals tonight. Crucial that they get some wins over the next 3-4 weeks.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Don't think they were expecting to be belted by 10 goals tonight. Crucial that they get some wins over the next 3-4 weeks.

Was expecting a loss but team looked like they barely got off the plane. Blues and Adelaide oval vs Adelaide is always a thumping.

 

[Mr Meow]

Was expecting a loss but team looked like they barely got off the plane. Blues and Adelaide oval vs Adelaide is always a thumping.

Should beat the Saints outdoors next week though.

Adelaide fired up at home after a shocking game the week before, Carlton with their best win in almost 12 months (including ferocious pressure and contested work) = recipe for a Blues let down tonight.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Should beat the Saints outdoors next week though.

Adelaide fired up at home after a shocking game the week before, Carlton with their best win in almost 12 months (including ferocious pressure and contested work) = recipe for a Blues let down tonight.

Crows flog us whether we're fired up for it or not. But they played very well tonight vs a laconic Carlton.

 

[Mr Meow]

Crows flog us whether we're fired up for it or not. But they played very well tonight vs a laconic Carlton.

True. But let's say Carlton faced Adelaide at the G the week after the Crows had a feel good win, I reckon there's a good chance the Blues would've maintained momentum.

The Blues run of fixtures over the next 6 weeks is pretty easy. Should go 4-2 or better.

 

[Vankri]

The number of losses and the way the losses are made validates a lot of the early season calls made on Carlton’s list and gameplan issues.

I was one that gave them a good chance vs the Cats, but a pacey, offense-first minded Crows outfit at home was always going to exacerbate the issues they have. For the record I still think Carlton is a 7th-12th level team.

Again I think yes regarding the list peaking. It would be a major challenge to try to adapt the list to modern football, and take a big effort from Voss+assistants to actually change things up with the defensive contest-first wannabe-2021-Dees gameplan.

In theory someone like TDK leaving would be a great opportunity to reset, free cap space, take picks, change the make up of the list as you lose a ruck for others, but the big issue is he’s a FA so all you get a single pick which will change nothing in the short term.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

It is criminal they will end up wasting Cripps career by being the same rubbish they have been for 2.5 decades.

 

[Mr Meow]

It is criminal they will end up wasting Cripps career by being the same rubbish they have been for 2.5 decades.

Has he ever gone surfing down in Torquay with Charlie and the De Koning's?

Buy the man his own beach.

 

[Fadge]

True. But let's say Carlton faced Adelaide at the G the week after the Crows had a feel good win, I reckon there's a good chance the Blues would've maintained momentum.

The Blues run of fixtures over the next 6 weeks is pretty easy. Should go 4-2 or better.

4 - 2 gets them to 7 and 7 having played 5 games against North, West Coast and Richmond...

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Has he ever gone surfing down in Torquay with Charlie and the De Koning's?

Buy the man his own beach.

He had more than enough chances to leave.
Let him wallow in an empty career like Robert Harvey.

 

[Atomboy]

He had more than enough chances to leave.
Let him wallow in an empty career like Robert Harvey.

Or Gary Ablett snr ?

 

[CarmenSandiego]

He had more than enough chances to leave.
Let him wallow in an empty career like Robert Harvey.

Harsh words for a bloke who chose to stay loyal.

Sport needs more of that, not less.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Harsh words for a bloke who chose to stay loyal.

Sport needs more of that, not less.

Imagine ol mate disliking this post. Champion player who did everything he could to try and carry a rabble out of misery.

 

[carlton_99]

Imagine ol mate disliking this post. Champion player who did everything he could to try and carry a rabble out of misery.

Are we surprised?

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Are we surprised?

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Harsh words for a bloke who chose to stay loyal.

Sport needs more of that, not less.

Fair. He just vexes me.
Has two brownlow's and Bont has none. That's just not cricket.

 

[Mr Meow]

He had more than enough chances to leave.
Let him wallow in an empty career like Robert Harvey.

Disagree. I think the champions should all get the chance to play in a few prelims and grand finals. Cripps has been unlucky.

 

[Fadge]

Disagree. I think the champions should all get the chance to play in a few prelims and grand finals. Cripps has been unlucky.

What has Cripps been unlucky about?

The club he was drafted to?

 

[Mr Meow]

What has Cripps been unlucky about?

The club he was drafted to?

Yes.

 

[Cleric]

The word I would use for Carlton is "overhyped". (I think its two words, but regardless)
They appear to have these really talented individuals, but they never really click as a team, and constantly under perform.
Take TDK, he is talked about as the next big thing, going to be a 1.5 million a year player, and a nearly 30 year old in ROB, who is about as mobile as Clive Palmer, made him look 2nd rate.

 

[LordLucifer]

Crap list management coupled with poor talent identification = season over !!

 

[Jirik13]

Yeah, ROB probably getting better of TDK. WTF? This is ROB who Crows fans want to shoot to the moon.

Also Walsh looks like half the player he was early in career. I suspect his back is not right and may never be. I hope I am wrong.

If Carlton does not make finals which is possible is Voss gone?

 

[Fadge]

If Carlton does not make finals which is possible probable is Voss gone?

Fixed that up for you.

 

[BringFevBack2021]

Yeah, ROB probably getting better of TDK. WTF? This is ROB who Crows fans want to shoot to the moon.

Also Walsh looks like half the player he was early in career. I suspect his back is not right and may never be. I hope I am wrong.

If Carlton does not make finals which is possible is Voss gone?

We can’t sack him because we were way too quick to sack prior coaches. If we keep shifting leadership so often we’ll never be cohesive as a group.

 

[Cleric]

We can’t sack him because we were way too quick to sack prior coaches. If we keep shifting leadership so often we’ll never be cohesive as a group.

Is Voss the problem, or is it the players/culture? He isn't the first coach that has had the same issues with this playing group.