Geelong rorting the system

[Elixuh]

So being sanctioned for a minor transgression is evidence of a cover up?

Is there any evidence you would accept that exonerates?

No

 

[CatToTheFuture]

No

No evidence you would accept at all?

That's not being sceptical, that's being religious

 

[jirkago1975]

It absolutely does though.

Coach wages are included in the soft cap for non-player payments, so if he's being paid by other means then the club can afford other coaching, support or ancillary staff > think strength & conditioning, or the 'mindfulness coach' or whatever the heck Emma was at Richmond during the dynasty era.

If true then should be a big fine and loss of soft cap space. There have been rumours for so long about this and can honestly say that the cats seems to find the cap space for players and coaches that other clubs can’t. Time for the afl to make an example to not let this shit happen again. Unfortunately we know how this will play out, small fine and suspended sentence.

If it were my club Adelaide, we’d get happened with everything. The afl is the most corrupted sport organisation in the world because they don’t answer to anyone

 

[Elixuh]

No evidence you would accept at all?

That's not being sceptical, that's being religious

We need justice

 

[CatToTheFuture]

We need justice

You need help

 

[STPer18]

How many active users in our wonderful BigFooty.com community? If we all chip in $10 each we might be able to cover the $10K fine.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

How many active users in our wonderful BigFooty.com community? If we all chip in $10 each we might be able to cover the $10K fine.

I'm convinced there's about 30 who run 20 accounts each so they need to chip in $200 each

 

[Mr Meow]

How many active users in our wonderful BigFooty.com community? If we all chip in $10 each we might be able to cover the $10K fine.

Jezza will sell enough cows (he got 'em all for free anyway) to make up the difference.

 

[Elixuh]

You need help

I know, we all need to band together and help one another to get justice.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I know, we all need to band together and help one another to get justice.

Is the justice in the room with us?

 

[Elixuh]

Is the justice in the room with us?

When Joe444 started this thread Geelong’s rorts were humming along unchecked. 48 hours after the thread was published it all started to unravel. Progress is being made, however slow.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

You need help

Beyond help. Needs a perma ban

 

[CatToTheFuture]

When Joe444 started this thread Geelong’s rorts were humming along unchecked. 48 hours after the thread was published it all started to unravel. Progress is being made, however slow.

Sounds more like they finished investigating to me, but I'm only working with publicly available information, not interpretations of rumours that i want to be true so there may be something I'm missing

 

[Mr Meow]

When Joe444 started this thread Geelong’s rorts were humming along unchecked. 48 hours after the thread was published it all started to unravel. Progress is being made, however slow.

I was outraged when I found out that Cats woman was driving a Ford Focus.

 

[Elixuh]

Sounds more like they finished investigating to me, but I'm only working with publicly available information, not interpretations of rumours that i want to be true so there may be something I'm missing

This is just beginning

 

[Altum Volantes]

He was under the pump. That’s correct. It doesn’t change what happened before that year though: do you know why he was under the pump?

Because he had a good, developing squad that went to a prelim in 04 and pushed one of the all time great sides all the way, then went to the SCG in 05 and led all night against the eventual premiers in a semi before Nick Davis happened.

We started 06 with back to back demolitions of the Lions and Roos and though I stand to be corrected, I have a feeling we were early favourites for the flag.

We promptly lost 7 of our next 8 culminating in that capitulation to your mob where we coughed up a 50 point lead.

We recovered to finish 10-11-1 and came home with a wet sail but it did nothing more than just highlight what a wasted year it was. Especially with 4 wins and a draw over top 8 teams and another 3 losses against them decided by less than a kick.

When we went 2-3 to start the next year, Thompson’s job was well and truly in the firing line.


So yeah it’s not like we suddenly got to 2007 and ‘oh, look, here’s Geelong having been at the bottom of the ladder for 5 years doing nothing and now they’re good.’ We had been good or thereabouts for 3 seasons.

Year before, and year before that.

My point being we didn't just come out in 07 with a brand new side.

Yes yes lads, I know, it was a bit of tongue in cheek banter, much like this 'rorting' has brought about from your supporters.

I don't think Geelong danked the 07 flag and they definitely were a team capable of shooting up the ladder if they got things to click.

I do however think the AFL had/has ABSOLUTELY no appetite to turn over a few rocks and lift a few lids on Dank and Robinson's time at the Cats - for fear of finding something they would need to dig deeper into and risking dragging the AFL name into the muck again, and those flags with it. Much more at stake than knocking a has been club like Essendon down a few notches. So I don't think we'll ever get true clarity there and it will remain a minor footnote in history.

 

[danster168]

You sound bitter danster.
Do you think Melbourne make the finals or waste away another year?

is it a wasted year if you don't win the flag? we got some development into good young kids. so it's not a wasted year.

 

[danster168]

Do you know how many prelims we've played in the past 20 odd years.

I'm struggling to count them all.

Are you referring to prelims or father/son pickups you've received? But yes, too many to count.

 

[danster168]

Coach of the year goes to coaches who beat expectations. Scotty won a flag his first year and is basically ineligible from there

Fagan won it twice. Funny that Scott hasn't done that. or won it in a very long time if he is the best coach.

 

[danster168]

Yes, not making finals when you have an ageing list is a waste.
Viney, May, Gawn, not sure they have much more left in them. Furthermore, losing Pickett to Fremantle would be a short-term disaster.

Making finals and losing round 1 doesn't achieve anything. You guys have wasted the last 2 years using that metric.

And lol, people said that about Gawn last year, and the year before that. He is still currently the best ruck in the league by a fair margin. He has many years left. People doubted him this year and he shut all of those people up.

 

[Mr Meow]

Fagan won it twice. Funny that Scott hasn't done that. or won it in a very long time if he is the best coach.

Hinkley won it twice and Dimma never, right?

 

[danster168]

Hinkley won it twice and Dimma never, right?

honestly no idea.

 

[PhatBoy]

honestly no idea.

At least you’ve posted something most of us agree on

 

[danster168]

At least you’ve posted something most of us agree on

lol. I think the deflections onto Melbournes list shows that deep down you admit that your success has been due mostly to the f/s gifts. I mean, it's sort of undeniable. But way too much time talking about Geelong for me or one day. You're 5th on the ladder behind Adelaide and Gold Coast. Guys like Atkins, Miers, Z.Guthrie, Mullen, Mannagh etc. it's got to be one of the least intimidating top 8 teams in the league. I never fear playing Geelong.

 

[PhatBoy]

lol. I think the deflections onto Melbournes list shows that deep down you admit that your success has been due mostly to the f/s gifts. I mean, it's sort of undeniable. But way too much time talking about Geelong for me or one day. You're 5th on the ladder behind Adelaide and Gold Coast. Guys like Atkins, Miers, Z.Guthrie, Mullen, Mannagh etc. it's got to be one of the least intimidating top 8 teams in the league. I never fear playing Geelong.

Yeah most of our success has been due to four guys. You’re right.

As such the four best players of the modern era are in no particular order Ablett, Scarlett, Hawkins. and Nathan Ablett.

Mighty effort from that quartet.

Why would YOU fear playing Geelong? You don’t have to lift a finger. You’re a bloke on the internet trying to grow a bigger piece because some parents of players had kids once upon a time and that somehow erases scores from the record books.
Your 6-19 record against us over the last 25 meetings does strike fear into Cats fans about the outcome of games with the Demons though that’s for sure.

you made the most of your lengthy stay at the top of the pile with 3 wins in one year at least, leaving your record at 3-19 the rest of the time.

So yeah we’ve certainly carried a big burden with us during our brief ‘up’ period of 19 seasons about running into the blue and red