Autopsy AFL 2025 Round 13 - Cats v Suns Sat June 7th 4:15pm AEST (GMHBA)

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AFL 2025 PREMIERSHIP SEASON ROUND 13
GEELONG V GOLD COAST
SATURDAY JUNE 7TH 4:15PM AEST (GMHBA)

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Teams:
CATS
B: C.O’Sullivan, S.De Koning, J.Henry
HB: Z.Guthrie, M.O’Connor, T.Stewart
C: M.Blicavs, M.Holmes, O.Dempsey
HF: G.Miers, S.Mannagh, B.Close
F: S.Neale, J.Cameron, P.Dangerfield - C
FOLL: R.Stanley, B.Smith, T.Atkins

I/C: M.Duncan, L.Humphries, O.Mullin, T.Stengle, J.Martin
EMG: M.Knevitt, T.Clohesy, O.Henry
In: - P.Dangerfield, J.Martin
Out: - T.Clohesy (Omitted), O.Henry (Managed)

SUNS
B: J.Jeffrey, M.Andrew, S.Collins
HB: J.Noble, W.Powell, D.Rioli
C: S.Clohesy, M.Rowell, B.Fiorini
HF: L.Lombard, S.Flanders, B.Humphrey
F: B.Long, J.Walter, B.King
FOLL: J.Witts, T.Miller, N.Anderson - C

I/C: N.Holman, B.Ainsworth, E.Read, D.Swallow, B.Uwland
EMG: N.Moyle, S.Lemmens, J.Farrar
In: - E.Read
Out: - N.Moyle (Omitted)



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Who should come in? Who's out?

 

[JackFlash]

Geelong should win by 30 points, but....nothing is certain at the former fortress anymore!

 

[NetworkNerd]

Gold Coast have lost all 8 games there by an average margin of 71.5 points.

Glorified training session for the Cats

 

[Brenton87]

Suns haven't played there in years. I have minimal confidence of a win

 

[GC2015]

Great opportunity for the Suns to make a statement in this game considering playing Geelong at the Cattery is universally recognised as a difficult fixture. Last time we played the Cats it was a 10+ goal belting in our favour so I think we're a chance in this one, but we'll certainly have play a lot better than we did against Freo last week. Side note - the two leading key forwards in the Coleman Medal are going head to head in this one and perhaps it could end up being a shootout for that reason.

First time a team has run out at Kardinia Park wearing predominantely pink. Hopefully it's a good omen.

 

[kreglze]

Haven't played there since 2021. I have a lot more trust in this team this year not to get wiped off the park.

For me, this has honorable loss all over it but a win isn't out of the realms like it would have been in previous trips to the Cattery.

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

A Suns win would not surprise me at all. Geelong's current game plan isn't really suited to KP which is why they haven't been as dominant there in the last couple of years.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Last time we played the Cats it was a 10+ goal belting in our favour so I think we're a chance in this one

Struggling to see the relevance.

Darwin heat and humidity vs wintery conditions with 1-7mm forecast. And we're expected to have 9-10 different players from the side that night.

 

[timokane]

Suns in an upset win by 9 point

 

[Romeoh1]

A Suns win would not surprise me at all. Geelong's current game plan isn't really suited to KP which is why they haven't been as dominant there in the last couple of years.

Yep-much better suited to the mcg.

 

[Mr Meow]

Struggling to see the relevance.

Darwin heat and humidity vs wintery conditions with 1-7mm forecast. And we're expected to have 9-10 different players from the side that night.

GC2015 hasn't realised they're a 6 goal better team in the NT than anywhere else (including their real home). They still would've beaten that depleted Geelong side by a few goals at Metricon but it wouldn't have been a thrashing.

Eventually they will prove themselves on the road against quality opposition - maybe this is the week. But they've yet to really do so. Win it and maybe the thought they are making up the numbers will need to be revised. Big game for them, especially after slipping to Freo at home.

 

[The Casey Cat]

A Suns win would not surprise me at all. Geelong's current game plan isn't really suited to KP which is why they haven't been as dominant there in the last couple of years.

And finally someone gets it rather than going with the ignorant, childish 'oMg chEEt grownd' rubbish. Geelong are as beatable (perhaps even more so) there as anywhere else.

 

[voorhees]

tough ask for the suns, like many who find themselves playing down at GMHBA

 

[Catsace]

No Lukosius certainly helps, I'm not sure what it is about hooped jumpers but the last couple of times he's played Geelong he's been a passable imitation of prime Leigh Matthews, with a bag of five twice. The colder conditions may suit Geelong a bit more, the Suns haven't been in a chilly outside game in a while, but they will be testing material. A genuine 8-point game.

 

[Jirik13]

No Lukosius certainly helps, I'm not sure what it is about hooped jumpers but the last couple of times he's played Geelong he's been a passable imitation of prime Leigh Matthews, with a bag of five twice. The colder conditions may suit Geelong a bit more, the Suns haven't been in a chilly outside game in a while, but they will be testing material. A genuine 8-point game.

What is it about cold weather from a lot of Cats fans? On Sat Min 8 Max 15 at Geelong. Min 8-9 Max 21-23 at Nerang this week (next to PFS). Surely 13-15 degrees at start is not too cold?

More importantly, it looks like a wet game. Suns had a good practice against Freo. Freo did play wet conditions a bit better, were cleaner.

I doubt Suns will play 2 rucks again. Read probably back replacing Moyle.

Let's see if Suns can make it a game. I doubt it. Playing well in the middle would be a good start.

Cats by 35.

 

[The Kings Ransom]

Only seen half a Geelong game this year.
Keen to see if Bailey Smith

3

Bailey Smith

Age

24

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

lives up to the hype.

Seems a bit odd that a guy with the 3rd worst disposal efficiency of the top 100 disposal getters is Brownlow favourite.
He's certainly tackling more than I would have expected.

 

[Mr Meow]

Only seen half a Geelong game this year.
Keen to see if Bailey Smith lives up to the hype.

Seems a bit odd that a guy with the 3rd worst disposal efficiency of the top 100 disposal getters is Brownlow favourite.
He's certainly tackling more than I would have expected.

Smith's kicking is hit and miss but he has a fairly similar overall statistical profile to Noah Anderson - who is having a sensationsl season. Smith is a slightly less polished kick but has more breakaway speed.

Holmes and Atkins so far would not have stolen as many votes as Rowell and Miller.

 

[The Kings Ransom]

Smith's kicking is hit and miss but he has a fairly similar overall statistical profile to Noah Anderson - who is having a sensationsl season. Smith is a slightly less polished kick but has more breakaway speed.

Holmes and Atkins so far would not have stolen as many votes as Rowell and Miller.

Yes quite similar - few differences highlighted.

Disposal efficiency: Anderson 69%, Smith 62%
Metres gained: Anderson 585, Smith 690
Contested possessions: Anderson 13.5, Smith 10.5
Clearances: Anderson: 7.5, Smith 5
Tackles: Anderson 3.0, Smith 5.7


Cameron and Dangerfield would have a claimed a few 3 voters surely.

 

[Mr Meow]

Yes quite similar - few differences highlighted.

Disposal efficiency: Anderson 69%, Smith 62%
Metres gained: Anderson 585, Smith 690
Contested possessions: Anderson 13.5, Smith 10.5
Clearances: Anderson: 7.5, Smith 5
Tackles: Anderson 3.0, Smith 5.7


Cameron and Dangerfield would have a claimed a few 3 voters surely.

Yeah Smith is a bit more "outside". His gut running to link up with so many passages of play has been incredible. Not that Anderson lacks in this area, but he's involved in more scrimmages.

Danger early and Cameron recently would've stolen some votes for sure. As forwards though, don't be surprised if they end up snubbed here and there. Miers and Stengle over the years have had so many sensational games not get a vote.

I don't particularly agree with Smith's Brownlow favouritism - he's hyped and big recruits always steal headlines - but he certainly merits being up there with the leading pack. So does Anderson.

 

[Romeoh1]

tough ask for the suns, like many who find themselves playing down at GMHBA

Sure- and just like so many away teams struggle to beat the home team at the g, especially the interstaters.

 

[The Kings Ransom]

Yeah Smith is a bit more "outside". His gut running to link up with so many passages of play has been incredible. Not that Anderson lacks in this area, but he's involved in more scrimmages.

Danger early and Cameron recently would've stolen some votes for sure. As forwards though, don't be surprised if they end up snubbed here and there. Miers and Stengle over the years have had so many sensational games not get a vote.

I don't particularly agree with Smith's Brownlow favouritism - he's hyped and big recruits always steal headlines - but he certainly merits being up there with the leading pack. So does Anderson.

Does Mark O'Connor hard tag?

 

[Mr Meow]

Does Mark O'Connor hard tag?

Nah we go with his Irish brother Oisin Mullin these days. He may get the Anderson job.

 

[GC2015]

Struggling to see the relevance.

Darwin heat and humidity vs wintery conditions with 1-7mm forecast. And we're expected to have 9-10 different players from the side that night.

The relevance is 30 (16 Suns, 14 Cats) of the players that took part in that game last year also lined up for their respective clubs over the weekend. I guarantee you they all remember that game. It's hard to forget the big wins/losses.

GC2015 hasn't realised they're a 6 goal better team in the NT than anywhere else (including their real home). They still would've beaten that depleted Geelong side by a few goals at Metricon but it wouldn't have been a thrashing.

Says the guy that predicted the Bulldogs would "expose" us in Darwin a month ago. We've won 4 our last 5 games in Victoria so it's not like we're this awful team that can't win down there. I get that GMHBA is different to the MCG/Marvel with its dimensions and crowd dynamics, but we're always up against it crowd wise when we play down there so it's not really any different for us with the exception of needing to adjust to a thinner ground. We've shown we can play high level corridor footy this year so I'm not too concerned about the ground dimensions.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

The relevance is 30 (16 Suns, 14 Cats) of the players that took part in that game last year also lined up for their respective clubs over the weekend. I guarantee you they all remember that game. It's hard to forget the big wins/losses.

Doubt we will. Scott ad nauseam talks about when you play sides being important.
Last year in Darwin with quite a few out. Won't even be a game that's looked back on as a reference guide by this club.

 

[GC2015]

Doubt we will. Scott ad nauseam talks about when you play sides being important.
Last year in Darwin with quite a few out. Won't even be a game that's looked back on as a reference guide by this club.

They don't have to review it to remember. Anyone that's played sport at a reasonably high level will tell you they don't forget the times they got smashed. Especially if it's happened in the last 12 months or so.