Sydney and Port Adelaide being AFL controlled is why their coaches escape media scrutiny

[Del80659]

AFL Commission - Wikipedia

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The commission has become involved when players or a club bring the game into disrepute, including:

2012 overhaul of the Port Adelaide Football Club including the sacking of senior coach Matthew Primus and president Brett Duncanson

this is when Port Adelaide died

 

[SuperMal]

Box of tissues to isle 8…Port spillage!

 

[DeathlyAccurate]

Are we talking about the 1st place Swans and 4th placed Power? Yeah why aren’t they scrutinised more!


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[GremioPower]

your hatred of Ken Hinkley is a bit over the top lol

Measuring Hinkley by Freo’s standard, oh, boy, he’s indeed outstanding. I sincerely wish he could be doing such a great work at your club.

We expect a bit more from Port than “not losing”. That’s the issue.

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

Are we talking about the 1st place Swans and 4th placed Power? Yeah why aren’t they scrutinised more!


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No we’re talking about the most unsuccessful coach in the history of Australian football though and his golden ticket.

 

[Taper]

You must have shares in ALCOA.

Port is not getting ‘Torched’ because -

- they’re an interstate team who NO ONE cares about anywhere else

- Only the SA media can make a dime running stories on SA teams

- National media outlets like Fox are VIC-Centric as all hell - Producers and commentators only give interstaters a passing glance

- Do you seriously expect the Hun to run stories on why Hinkley is so bad - when they’ll sell 50,000 more papers if they run a story on the Daico’s family BBQ?

- Beveridge says weird things when under the hammer - stimulating more ‘copy’. Hinkley and Longmire just don’t give a flying **** about the media- and it works both ways.

All this works together to give interstate coaches some space and distance from the dumpster divers.

Hinkley holds the record for most games coached without making a grand final.

Surely this warrants scrutiny from the media?
There is no scrutiny because Port are controlled by AFL HQ who want to maintain stability at the club.

 

[SuperMal]

There is no scrutiny because Port are controlled by AFL HQ who want to maintain stability at the club.

1st Premise - Surely this warrants scrutiny from the media?

Fair point, but as explained, there are bigger fish to fry.

2nd Premise - There is no scrutiny because Port are controlled by AFL HQ who want to maintain stability at the club.

Absolute lunacy based on the false beliefs that :

- The AFL care that much

- The AFL has that level of control over the Adelaide media

- The AFL are concerned about Port attendances

-The AFL think Ports position in the league is as fragile as the Suns or GWS.


Your club is rich, resilient, has a strong following and a huge legacy - the AFL have MUCH bigger things to worry about than Hinkley, Koch etc.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Your club is rich, resilient, has a strong following and a huge legacy - the AFL have MUCH bigger things to worry about than Hinkley, Koch etc.

Yeah. That's exactly the point.

The AFL aren't worried about Port finishing 3rd to 10th year and putting up decent attendances while never actually threatening to win anything of substance. Port members are. If Port was member controlled, the members would have had the Koch/Hinkley regime out on their arse years ago. But it isn't, which is why they're escaping scrutiny, which is the entire premise of this thread.

 

[SuperMal]

Yeah. That's exactly the point.

The AFL aren't worried about Port finishing 3rd to 10th year and putting up decent attendances while never actually threatening to win anything of substance. Port members are. If Port was member controlled, the members would have had the Koch/Hinkley regime out on their arse years ago. But it isn't, which is why they're escaping scrutiny, which is the entire premise of this thread.

I fail to see the difference between Port and any other club - an AFL club sacks a coach when the board fears for their jobs or believes there’s a better option - it has zero to do with the AFL controlling the decision process.

The outliers are the ‘synthetic’ clubs, the Suns and the Giants..who I agree ARE still under AFL stewardship.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Longmire has no issue getting us there its during the week and on the day that concerns me.

 

[SuperMal]

Then you're not very clever.



The exact reason the board doesn't fear for their job is because the AFL control the decision process. If the Port members controlled the decision process, they'd be out on their arse for the continual re-signings of the most mediocre coach in AFL history. But the AFL are happy as long as we're solvent and not completely embarrassing ourselves on field.

Ah I get it now - I don’t have a tin foil hat.

For a moment I thought my footy education was lacking - instead….it’s just my imagination.

 

[Del80659]

1st Premise - Surely this warrants scrutiny from the media?

Fair point, but as explained, there are bigger fish to fry.

2nd Premise - There is no scrutiny because Port are controlled by AFL HQ who want to maintain stability at the club.

Absolute lunacy based on the false beliefs that :

- The AFL care that much

you keep your head buried in the sand that deep? mate, the AFLs propaganda machine is sickening and they've done a number on South Australia in cahoots with the bellends down here. I mean, we've got to the point where you don't even believe it exists, so they're winning.

 

[SuperMal]

you keep your head buried in the sand that deep? mate, the AFLs propaganda machine is sickening and they've done a number on South Australia in cahoots with the bellends down here. I mean, we've got to the point where you don't even believe it exists, so they're winning.

Sorry…don’t believe in ‘black & white’ conspiracies - SA or VIC.

The supporter stupidity co-efficient is off the charts.

 

[Del80659]

Sorry…don’t believe in ‘black & white’ conspiracies - SA or VIC.

The supporter stupidity co-efficient is off the charts.

do you think the 2016 GF was called correctly?

 

[rapidfire7]

Don't know how Longmire escapes scrutiny, he's a very ordinary coach who has underachieved on a major level with the teams he has had at his disposal

If only North had been successful in poaching him a few years ago, we're stuck with him now

Playing in 4 Grand Finals and hardly ever missing the 8 is underachieving?

 

[SuperMal]

do you think the 2016 GF was called correctly?

 

[Taper]

Longmire has no issue getting us there its during the week and on the day that concerns me.

Longmire has managed to escape scrutiny after all of Sydney's finals exits in recent years.
Compare this to the heat Chris Scott copped between 2016 and 2021 for our finals exits.

 

[Old Man Jenkins]

The premise of this thread is incorrect in regards to Sydney.

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copped heavy media scrutiny, and John Longmire had his position as head coach labelled 'untenable' by Caroline Wilson after last year's grand final loss. Sydney are the darlings of Australia's most important city, so the AFL can't afford them to struggle.

Port and Hinkley escape scrutiny because they're a relatively small club outside of SA, and they have Cos Cardone on their board who happens to control large sections of the media. Pretty simple really.

 

[Old Man Jenkins]

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this is when Port Adelaide died

When we become member controlled in 2028, your club will remain under AFL control and it'll be ironic given all the crap we've copped from Port fans over the years about being a franchise.

Rumour is Cos Cardone is going to succeed David Koch as the chairman of Port's board, so things are going to get worse for Port before they get better.

 

[Del80659]

When we become member controlled in 2028, your club will remain under AFL control and it'll be ironic given all the crap we've copped from Port fans over the years about being a franchise.

Rumour is Cos Cardone is going to succeed David Koch as the chairman of Port's board, so things are going to get worse for Port before they get better.

thats not going to change who you are

 

[ibd77]

Cos Cardone on their board who happens to control large sections of the media. Pretty simple really.

In this case, we should be doing better with sponsorship and market exposure?

 

[Freomaniac]

Longmire escapes scrutiny because he's a pretty good coach.

Similar reason with Ken Hinkley to a small degree

Ken Hinkley hasn't won a flag or made a grand final.

He has made 4 preliminary finals in 11 seasons. From 2014 to 24.

3 of those preliminary finals between 2020 to 2024. Very difficult to sack a coach of they make 3 prelim finals in 5 seasons

 

[Del80659]

3 of those preliminary finals between 2020 to 2024. Very difficult to sack a coach of they make 3 prelim finals in 5 seasons

actually it's the exact same process as sacking a coach who has won 3 wooden spoons in 5 seasons