Mid East Israel attacks Iran. What are the likely consequences? How will it be resolved?

[faible]

why won’t they agree to inspections and sign the NPT?

Lucky Israel is buddied up to the world’s largest Military.

Fascinating answer.

Also there's only one country that's ever used a nuclear weapon against another...

 

[10571z]

Fascinating answer.

Also there's only one country that's ever used a nuclear weapon against another...

Fascinating answer.

Also there's only one country that's ever used a nuclear weapon against another...

And Israel have managed nukes peacefully since the 60s.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Lucky Israel is buddied up to the world’s largest Military.

I’d probably want nukes if I was surrounded by countries who want to flatten me and kill every one of my citizens.

Lickspittling is no way to live your life. What would your parents think?

 

[Awakening]

Great to see gutless Penny Wong and this Labor Government showing a complete lack of backbone as per usual.

I was naive thinking they’d hold off a bit before crawling up trumps arse.

 

[faible]

And Israel have managed nukes peacefully since the 60s.

Israel has hardly been peaceful. They just haven't nuked anyone whilst being not-peaceful.

 

[QuietB]

You think because Israel has nukes it should be open season and Iran should be allowed?

No I don't.

But I do think that the current strategy by Israel and the USA is backing Iran into a corner where having nuclear weapons is their only way out. And that is obviously a bad outcome for Israel, the USA and everyone else.

How many wars have there been so far and what has the USA achieved? Other than massive debt.

 

[schneebly111]

Americans don’t actually know what they hit at Fordow (from the NYT):

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/22/us/politics/iran-uranium-stockpile-whereabouts.html

So not only don’t they know if they actually did any damage to the facilities beyond the entrance, they actually don’t know if the enriched uranium was even there.

They may just just wasted 10t bombs to move a bit of worthless dirt

 

[schneebly111]

 

[Deliverance]

The fascinating part of that video for me is how the weapons manufacturers can sell these ridiculous dreams to politicians and profit endlessly from them.

It makes no logical sense that a static bomb can just burrow 60-80m underground. It is an insane proposition. And it was probably never meant to be tested.

I am sure these weapons can be effective at doing something but blowing up an entire mountain is not it.

Because politicians don't pay for them. US taxpayers do.

 

[Sinjin Smith]

And the last time North Korea attacked South Korea or Japan or the USA or funded a group in another country to attack South Korea or Japan or the USA?

Feels like a few people in here want Iran to get nuclear weapons.

You hate Jews that much?

I'd prefer no country has nuclear weapons.

 

[Deliverance]

What is Iran doing with enriched uranium?

Making bombs. Just ask Bibi. They've been months away since 1995

 

[schneebly111]

It looks as if Trump’s incessant tweeting gave the Iranians the heads up to empty out Fordow prior to the attack

From the New York Times:

 

[Not Important]

some are saying medvedev his suggesting russia might help iran with nukes. gerashchenko is a ukraine adviser. you reap what you sow, donny.

Anton Gerashchenko (@antongerashchenko.bsky.social)

A new post by Medvedev has appeared. Point 3 is particularly interesting. I wonder if he’s referring to Russia — that it will help Iran with its nuclear program? Here is the full text: «What have the Americans achieved with their overnight strike on three sites in Iran?⤵️

bsky.app

 

[Not Important]

Molly Knight (@mollyknight.bsky.social)

If you were too young in 2003 here is what Bush told the American people: 1) The Iraq War won’t cost a lot of money 3) We won’t need a lot of troops 4) We’ll bring peace and freedom to Iraq 5) We’ll find WMDs 6) We’ll be welcomed as liberators 7) It will be easy 8) It won’t take long All lies.

bsky.app

 

[Not Important]

"What we are witnessing now is a fundamental shift: the abandonment of strategic realism in favour of a theology-driven war without end. "

Israel-US attack on Iran: The price of Netanyahu's forever wars

Living in a messianic state that wages perpetual war carries psychological and financial costs, even for those who once enjoyed its benefits

www.middleeasteye.net

 

[Johnny Bananas]

You have to ask whether this could have all been avoided had Trump just stuck to the deal Obama had painstakingly negotiated to restrict Iran's enrichment capabilities. If I were Iran, I'd have never trusted a word the Americans said after that because it showed whatever they said one day could change the next.

 

[Not Important]

You have to ask whether this could have all been avoided had Trump just stuck to the deal Obama had painstakingly negotiated to restrict Iran's enrichment capabilities. If I were Iran, I'd have never trusted a word the Americans said after that because it showed whatever they said one day could change the next.

that has been a critical point. the zionist regime tried under obama and biden to extinguish the multilateral arrangements obama had with iran. without success. enter trump 2 and the zionists got their way, which allowed them to do what they've wanted to do all along.

 

[Not Important]

many a true word said etc



100%

 

[Not Important]

as an agnostic, i'm warming to this pope.

 

[schneebly111]

You have to ask whether this could have all been avoided had Trump just stuck to the deal Obama had painstakingly negotiated to restrict Iran's enrichment capabilities. If I were Iran, I'd have never trusted a word the Americans said after that because it showed whatever they said one day could change the next.

Yeah but then he couldn’t let the black guy have any victories.

 

[Not Important]

I know I have said this before, but I will keep repeating it because it is the truth. The truth cannot be uttered too many times.

Sanders resolution "No War against Iran" is a completely futile resolution which has no chance to even reach the floor of the Senate for a vote. But even if it did, it is completely meaningless, and the Trump administration will completely ignore it - just as Trump has repeatedly breached the US Constitution over the last 6 months.

The bill itself seeks to prohibit any funding for war against Iran without congressional approval.

The constitutional power of Congress to demand that it be consulted before a President decides to launch an attack on another sovereign country has been over the last two decades completely obliterated - by Democratic and Republican administrations alike.

Just three days after the September 11, 2001 attacks, the US Senate (98–0) and House of Representatives (420–1) granted the president virtually unlimited authority to wage global war under the 2001 Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF).

Following its passage—along with the 2002 Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution—Presidents George W. Bush, Barack Obama, Donald Trump, and Joseph Biden have carried out military interventions in more than 22 countries. These include bombing campaigns in Libya, Syria, Somalia and Yemen, as well as the full-scale invasions and occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Sanders is fully aware that his bill is a toothless deception, designed only to promote the illusion that there is a way to oppose Trump through Congress.

Within the US, there is enormous opposition to US intervention into war against Iran. Sanders is playing the role he always does: a political safety valve to divert this opposition into the framework of the two party system where it can be effectively railroaded and demoralised.

As a capitalist politician, the role of Sanders is to ensure that no political opposition independent of Congress and the two party system in the US begins to develop among masses of working people.

Sanders himself, in a social media post, gave himself away. He appealed to Trump to "live up to his promises of being a "peace candidate" ".

Are you f***ing kidding me? This is equivalent to appealing to Hitler to live up to his promises of peace after the annexation of the Sudetenland.


Finally, Sanders completely lies about the nature and causes of this war. In another social media post, he wrote:
“Netanyahu started this war by attacking Iran. … The U.S. must not be dragged into another illegal Netanyahu war—either militarily or financially.”

This is a total lie. The US was fully aware, and gave its approval, to Israel's surprise attack on Iran and the ensuing bombardment campaign. The US and Israel as its proxy are together carrying out long prepared plans to take geostrategic control of the Middle East, not just for the natural resources, but also for the ability to dominate critical global trading choke points, and thereby disrupt the economies of the US' major rivals: the US: China, Russia (and the EU).

From day 1, Netanyahu and Biden, and then Trump have worked together to implement the recolonisation of the Middle East by U S imperialism. First the genocide in Gaza to "solve the Palestinian question", then the obliteration of Iran's allies (Hezbollah, regime change in Syria) and now finally the US war of regime change in Iran, in collaboration with Israel. Netanyahu's regime, as the Mafioso sidekicks, naturally hope to score some loose change as well.

Sanders is political poison. In the final analysis, it is the likes of him and AOC who provide a left cover for the Democrats who in turn are collaborating with Trump.

neither bernie or aoc a part of the two-party system at present. they are independent.

"political poison" - i think not. both have been consistent in both word and deed in their politics. without them, who is there to give voice to a left view?

what he and aoc are doing is drawing attention to the unconstitutionality of what the orange oaf is doing. while they don't have the numbers in either house, the margins are small. who knows, some republicans might develop a moral compass and support the move. after all, there are midterms not far off.

 

[Frank Bunn]

It looks as if Trump’s incessant tweeting gave the Iranians the heads up to empty out Fordow prior to the attack

From the New York Times:

Trump claims that Iran’s key nuclear enrichment facilities have been totally obliterated - implying that there's no reason for Israel to continue the war.

Israel wants the war to go on so will make up stories like this.

 

[schneebly111]

Trump claims that Iran’s key nuclear enrichment facilities have been totally obliterated - implying that there's no reason for Israel to continue the war.

Israel wants the war to go on so will make up stories like this.

Between a conspiracy and a f**k up always choose the f**k up.

I think Trump was just so stupid he blabbed their attack plans outright to the world. He claims they were all destroyed as political cover.

 

[schneebly111]

Australia’s wannabe PM and “war hero” (Hastie) desperately wanting us to join in on the bombing

Lambie labels Trump a ‘bloody sociopath’ – as it happened

This blog is now closed

www.theguardian.com

Good to see Lambie actually call this bullsh*t for what it is

 

[JayJ20]

Are you a member of that community or just speaking on their behalf?

I'm sure they are just fine with the Iranian regime publicly hanging people for being gay though

Oh so now you're against killing people? Not when the Israelis blow up 30,000 children