Mid East Israel attacks Iran. What are the likely consequences? How will it be resolved?

[Johnny Bananas]

Long distance/term force projection is what expeditionary capabilities are. Nice attempt at covering up your ignorance though.

Cool.

Start with the Iran hostage crisis right up to the Houthi's today.

The Houthis are not Iranian, just their allies.

Very good to see that you are so concerned about Iranian military leadership. Not so much for the Iranian population but I guess it's a start.

Whereas you seem quite happy for the Iranian people to get bombed.

Noone else wants to free Iran?

I hope that made sense in your head, it didn't outside it.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

I haven't made a single post about US politics and could care less.

Yank detected.

 

[schneebly111]

Start with the Iran hostage crisis

Didn’t happen in a vacuum. The Shah had fled to the U.S. earlier, supposedly for cancer treatment but rumours were the fled the nation he had oppressed so greatly to the one that had propped him up. The U.S. backing for the Shah led to the hostage crisis. If they hadn’t couped the democratic PM in 1953 it wouldn’t have happened.

 

[ZEV]

Yank detected.

Clearly stated in my posting history...

I have stated many times on this forum that I am an Israeli citizen. I have not made it a secret.

The Houthis are not Iranian, just their allies.

Allies, terror army proxy.... Not sure you understand how the ME works JB

 

[ZEV]

Didn’t happen in a vacuum. The Shah had fled to the U.S. earlier, supposedly for cancer treatment but rumours were the fled the nation he had oppressed so greatly to the one that had propped him up. The U.S. backing for the Shah led to the hostage crisis. If they hadn’t couped the democratic PM in 1953 it wouldn’t have happened.

You are justifying terrorism.

 

[JayJ20]

Idf does not have expeditionary capability.

USA has never been boots on the ground in any Israeli war.

Iranian regime has been threatening Israel and the USA for decades.

The Israelis wouldn't be boots on ground without the US. Even the Iron Dome is supplied by the US.
Maybe they'd be behaving themselves instead of starting wars across the Middle East.

 

[10571z]

Better bring my pride flags to the Iran protest!

 

[Ghost Patrol]

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Clearly stated in my posting history...

I don't need to listen to some brainwashed seppo or Israeli Hasbara. Have fun.

 

[the_interloper]

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Better bring my pride flags to the Iran protest!

Queers for Iran, Palestine, indigenous people and women's sport!

 

[Frank Bunn]

Iran are signatories to the NPT and allow IEAE inspections of their nuclear facilities. They ceased their nuclear program in 2003 and had a nuclear deal until Trump ripped it up. They still didn't return to developing nuclear weapons. Enriching Uranium for civil use does not mean they were developing nuclear weapons. If they were to develop it, it would be for deterrence like most nations with nuclear weapons, but there is no evidence they were building nuclear weapons. Netanyahu has been lying about it since the early 90s.

Head of US intelligence Tulsi Gabbard confirmed Iran were not building nuclear weapons as recently as March this year. The actions of the Israelis and the US is a baseless escalation.

You know who has nukes but refuses to confirm or deny it, refused to be a signatory of the NPT, took the US' nuclear program without their consent or knowledge, doesn't allow IEAE inspections of nuclear facilities, has the Samson Option that quite literally will result in a nuclear holocaust? If you said the Israelis, then you're correct.

They are literally the biggest nuclear threat in the Middle East given their incessant desire for war and chaos.

You can be certain now that Iran will work to obtain nuclear weapons to provide a deterrent and it's all the fault of the Israelis and the US. It's hilarious that they keep repeating "Iran is secretly developing nuclear weapons" when the genocidal Israeli state did exactly that even blindsiding the US. Every accusation is an admission it seems.

In Tulsi Gabbard's testimony before Congress in March, she said US intelligence agencies had concluded Iran was not building nuclear weapons. But she also said Iran's stock of enriched uranium was "unprecedented for a state without nuclear weapons". Trump recently reacted to the first part of her statement and said she was wrong and that he didn't care what she said. Gabbard then posted on social media, that US intelligence showed Iran is "at the point that it can produce a nuclear weapon within weeks to months. President Trump has been clear that can't happen, and I agree." Despite that, I think her position might have become untenable.

The timing of Israel's attacks on Iran is telling. Iran had been engaging in talks with the US this year over its nuclear programme and was scheduled to hold a further round.

Trump claims that Iran’s key nuclear enrichment facilities have been completely and totally obliterated. That should mean the Israeli attacks on Iran end. Somehow I doubt it will.

 

[SSwans2011]

Great to see gutless Penny Wong and this Labor Government showing a complete lack of backbone as per usual.

 

[SSwans2011]

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If you bothered to actually listen to the queer community you'd maybe understand that a large part of this reason for this is members of the community are tired of Israel and its backers (which in this country largely represents many of the people that are trying to strip their rights away) pinkwashing the issue. Just like you're doing here.

 

[ZEV]

I don't need to listen to some brainwashed seppo or Israeli Hasbara. Have fun.

Yes, by outlining raw facts I am brainwashed.

Time for you to bunker down as well by the sounds of things

 

[10571z]

If you bothered to actually listen to the queer community you'd maybe understand that a large part of this reason for this is members of the community are tired of Israel and its backers (which in this country largely represents many of the people that are trying to strip their rights away) pinkwashing the issue. Just like you're doing here.

Just attention seekers desperate to latch on to any Melbourne protest.

How am I pink washing? Trump or Israel didnt drop bombs to protect LGBTQ rights….

 

[ZEV]

If you bothered to actually listen to the queer community you'd maybe understand that a large part of this reason for this is members of the community are tired of Israel and its backers (which in this country largely represents many of the people that are trying to strip their rights away) pinkwashing the issue. Just like you're doing here.

Are you a member of that community or just speaking on their behalf?

I'm sure they are just fine with the Iranian regime publicly hanging people for being gay though

 

[ZEV]

The Israelis wouldn't be boots on ground without the US. Even the Iron Dome is supplied by the US.
Maybe they'd be behaving themselves instead of starting wars across the Middle East.

The Iron Dome saves more Arab lives than Israeli lives by virtue of Israel not having to go to war all the time.

 

[QuietB]

I watched a breakdown recently on bunker buster bombs (see below) — the Chinese ran extensive tests, especially on mountainous terrain. They’re far less effective than most assume. The underground blast radius is tiny, often under 10x5 metres, and that’s only if you hit the exact spot. Rock deflection further limits their power.

Now consider who China’s close ally is...Iran. You can bet this intel has already been shared to help them design fortified underground nuclear sites.

The fascinating part of that video for me is how the weapons manufacturers can sell these ridiculous dreams to politicians and profit endlessly from them.

It makes no logical sense that a static bomb can just burrow 60-80m underground. It is an insane proposition. And it was probably never meant to be tested.

I am sure these weapons can be effective at doing something but blowing up an entire mountain is not it.

 

[faible]

Are you a member of that community or just speaking on their behalf?

I'm sure they are just fine with the Iranian regime publicly hanging people for being gay though

False Equivalence.

 

[faible]

I don't need to listen to some brainwashed seppo or Israeli Hasbara. Have fun.

He's Israeli, if you want context to what he's saying.

 

[10571z]

What is Iran doing with enriched uranium?

 

[QuietB]

What is Iran doing with enriched uranium?

Same as Israel

 

[Ghost Patrol]

What is Iran doing with enriched uranium?

What is Israel doing with nuclear weapons, and why won’t they agree to inspections and sign the NPT?

I assume you would be happy to drop bombs on them until they comply?

 

[10571z]

What is Israel doing with nuclear weapons, and why won’t they agree to inspections and sign the NPT?

I assume you would be happy to drop bombs on them until they comply?

Lucky Israel is buddied up to the world’s largest Military.

I’d probably want nukes if I was surrounded by countries who want to flatten me and kill every one of my citizens.

 

[10571z]

Same as Israel

You think because Israel has nukes it should be open season and Iran should be allowed?