Your Movie and TV Hot Takes

[Richard Cranium]

Have only just stumbled upon this thread... And I'm here for it.

Dunno if this has been covered before (or perhaps I am genuinely the only person who thinks it).

Seinfeld is one of the most appalling and un-funny TV shows ever made. I would get more of a laugh trying to give myself a circumcision.

I love satire as much as anyone, but the show was just absolute poo. I think they've got it spot on, it's a show about nothing... And nothing aint funny.

 

[Red mist]

Get em in hot.

Whats your movie or TV hot take (lets not do music here cause that always winds up with absolute flogs proclaiming they have more knowledge than you).

Ill start it off with one that most have heard me discuss before.

Shutter Island is ****ing terrible.

Telegraphed plot twist, ham fisted reveal, scholcky writing and delivery. It feels like a shitty 70s telemovie that just happened to have Kingsley, DiCaprio and Ruffalo (as well as a stack of others in support roles) directed by Scorsese. Even the ridiculous last line felt forced.


For clarity on this its hot takes so shit like "Casablanca is great" isnt what were here for. Real shit movies you love or really universally appreciated movies you hate. Award winning actors you think are bad. Critically acclaimed TV you hate. Etc etc.

Raising Arizona is the best Coen movie by far. All the rest are contrived garbage apart from no country for old men and they’re set in the same state. Go figure..X to op it’s a good concept

 

[dumb]

I just asked AI and it suggested Heat, (Seen the first 30 minutes and got bored)

Inside Man, really good movie but not the heists I'm referring to
Fish Called Wanda Never seen
Hell or high water haven't seen.

I'm more referring to the Oceans bullshit.

i've never really gotten into heist movies myself but reading up because of the discussion i'd be inclined to seek out older movies along those lines. same formulas but could be different enough from modern efforts. i have no interest in heist movies really, but would now love to see 'asphalt jungle' since it's an early marilyn monroe.

 

[AFDogs]

Mad Men is just... boring.

I've tried to watch it many times and I've always given up before the end of Season 1.

 

[spinynorman]

i've never really gotten into heist movies myself but reading up because of the discussion i'd be inclined to seek out older movies along those lines. same formulas but could be different enough from modern efforts. i have no interest in heist movies really, but would now love to see 'asphalt jungle' since it's an early marilyn monroe.

It’s a small role for her but she still shines. I had someone tell me once they watched it not knowing she was in it and so the whole time they were going “Who’s that? She looks just like Marilyn Monroe, how was she not a bigger star?!” and then at the end credits went “Oh it is Marilyn Monroe.”

I generally think of heist movies as a branching out of film noir and so would say, yeah, 1950s to 1970s are the peak for it (though there were some good ones in the 1990s too).

 

[spinynorman]

Mad Men is just... boring.

I've tried to watch it many times and I've always given up before the end of Season 1.

I always felt like it was a bit of a slog and tried the first season several times, but something clicked for me and I think I watched seasons 2-7 in the same amount of time it took me to watch season 1. I have heard others say they had a similar feeling, so I would recommend trying again, but understandable if you don’t.

 

[Gralin]

I like Mad Men but its not going to be for everyone

 

[Jatz]

Love Mad Men. Never going to particularly excite anyone but it's very well made.

 

[MC Bad Genius]

Raising Arizona is the best Coen movie by far. All the rest are contrived garbage apart from no country for old men and they’re set in the same state. Go figure..X to op it’s a good concept

That is a VERY hot take. I completely disagree with it (although I do absolutely love Raising Arizona), but this is the kind of hot take this thread is all about.

No more banal talk about heist movies.

Hot takes only!

 

[JHF1870]

That is a VERY hot take. I completely disagree with it (although I do absolutely love Raising Arizona), but this is the kind of hot take this thread is all about.

No more banal talk about heist movies.

Hot takes only!

Tarantino’s movies don’t unfold,they detonate.
Dialogue isn’t conversation, it’s foreplay for violence. Every scene simmers like a fuse, and when it blows, it’s never clean... just unforgettable.

 

[spinynorman]

Watching Hard-Boiled in a cinema on Friday night confirmed for me - in the 70s, 80s and 90s, Hong Kong in particular was putting out these insanely good action movies. I’m not really sure why people bothered (and continue to bother) with 99% of American action movies when way better stuff was being made elsewhere.

 

[JHF1870]

Watching Hard-Boiled in a cinema on Friday night confirmed for me - in the 70s, 80s and 90s, Hong Kong in particular was putting out these insanely good action movies. I’m not really sure why people bothered (and continue to bother) with 99% of American action movies when way better stuff was being made elsewhere.

From when?

The Jean Claude movies were mint. There were two with the same name about cloned or engineered soldiers. Other one was Kurt Russell. I think those niche cult like films were better.

 

[skam85]

Adam Sandler's best movie is Zohan

 

[Gralin]

From when?

The Jean Claude movies were mint. There were two with the same name about cloned or engineered soldiers. Other one was Kurt Russell. I think those niche cult like films were better.

Universal Soldier is good

Soldier with Kurt Russell is a steaming pile of shit

But then it's Paul WS Anderson and that's what he consistently makes

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Blue Velvet is David Lynch's finest work (which is contentious cause almost all of his stuff are masterpieces)

The definitive career performance imo from the very underrated Dennis Hopper.

The beautiful Isabella Rosselini was in the prime and sensual form of her acting career.

Like many of Lynch's work, it requires multiple viewings to totally appreciate and understand the plot and its nuances, but that's no bad thing (I enjoy films that have depth and layers which cannot be digested in just one viewing)

Haven't seen it in years, going to watch it tonight actually

It'd definitely an iconic film if you haven't seen it yet MrsEddieBetts

 

[Gralin]

Watching Hard-Boiled in a cinema on Friday night confirmed for me - in the 70s, 80s and 90s, Hong Kong in particular was putting out these insanely good action movies. I’m not really sure why people bothered (and continue to bother) with 99% of American action movies when way better stuff was being made elsewhere.

I used to go to a video store in Clayton in the 90s that had a massive selection of hong kong movies it was great

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Universal Soldier is good

Soldier with Kurt Russell is a steaming pile of shit

But then it's Paul WS Anderson and that's what he consistently makes

Here is my hot take

Dolph Lundgren is actually a better actor than Jean-Claude Van Damme (who i actually)

Unfortunately he didn't pick the best choice of movies post Rocky IV and its a damn shame he never became an A List actor.

So happy he has had bit of a renaissance in recent years (with the help of Sly Stallone)

Loved him in Creed 2 reprising the somewhat Shakespearean character of Ivan Drago

 

[Gralin]

Here is my hot take

Dolph Lundgren is actually a better actor than Jean-Claude Van Damme (who i actually)

Unfortunately he didn't pick the best choice of movies post Rocky IV and its a damn shame he never became an A List actor.

So happy he has had bit of a renaissance in recent years (with the help of Sly Stallone)

Loved him in Creed 2 reprising the somewhat Shakespearean character of Ivan Drago

He's a very intelligent guy and would kick the shit out of JCVD in a real fight

He was also He-Man

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

He's a very intelligent guy and would kick the shit out of JCVD in a real fight

He was also He-Man

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That Masters of The Universe movie is an underrated cult classic!

 

[Gralin]

That Masters of The Universe movie is an underrated cult classic!

 

[JackOutback]

He's a very intelligent guy and would kick the shit out of JCVD in a real fight

Would he? Van Damme is a legitimate badass too, he's not Steven Segal talking himself up way too much.

 

[Gralin]

Would he? Van Damme is a legitimate badass too, he's not Steven Segal talking himself up way too much.

Yeah he would have he had a good 20-30kgs on Van Damme and a significant reach advantage

 

[JackOutback]

Yeah he would have he had a good 20-30kgs on Van Damme and a significant reach advantage

Fair point... as Tim Tszyu found out.

 

[Gralin]

Fair point... as Tim Tszyu found out.

I love a good David vs Goliath but yeah

 

[spinynorman]

From when?

The Jean Claude movies were mint. There were two with the same name about cloned or engineered soldiers. Other one was Kurt Russell. I think those niche cult like films were better.

I think sporadically through the 70s but particularly by the mid-1980s - I'd say something like 1983 (Project A, Warriors from the Magic Mountain) through to 1995 (A Chinese Odyssey, The Blade), Hong Kong's doing more exciting stuff on the action front. You've got peak Jackie Chan, John Woo, Tsui Hark etc.