List Mgmt. Draftee, NGA and Father/Son Discussion - 2025

[bUCKET__]

The last couple of months of footage of Duursma have me absolutely sold. Before that I was skeptical but not anymore. His ceiling is anything, his floor is a good player anywhere on the ground. Perfect match with Sharp.

But if we don't pick him... I just think of the Saints fans who die every time they see Bont play and reflect on the career of Billings. You absolutely have to draft on potential star factor when you're down the bottom, unless you aspire to mid-ladder irrelevance. This is obviously different to CDT who could be Jackson Mk II or could be a bust. Duusma is no-risk all reward.

 

[kerrazy]

What school does he go to? What was the level of competition?

Seton College. The guys he was up against were pretty dam quick, but they didn’t strike me as elite-level track athletes, just very strong school-level runners.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Unsure if they are writing about Duursma or Bontempelli

26 days to the draft: Meet gun prospect Marcus Bontempelli

A tall midfielder with some tricks, Bontempelli has huge potential

www.afl.com.au

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

I think Cumming will be a better player than Duursma full stop.

He will also be far more impactful in our team for the next 3 years than an outside ball carrier/HBF.

I’m willing to cop it but if we hold 1 and 2, I’m taking Sharp and Cummings

 

[eaglevision]

I’m willing to cop it but uf we hold 1 and 2, in taking Sharp and Cummings

Part of the appeal of trading pick 1 is that we could probably still get Sharp and Cumming plus potentially another top 10 pick. If we knew Tigers were going to take Cumming at 3 I’d have no issue with that combo at 1-2.

 

[twce13]

The last couple of months of footage of Duursma have me absolutely sold. Before that I was skeptical but not anymore. His ceiling is anything, his floor is a good player anywhere on the ground. Perfect match with Sharp.

But if we don't pick him... I just think of the Saints fans who die every time they see Bont play and reflect on the career of Billings. You absolutely have to draft on potential star factor when you're down the bottom, unless you aspire to mid-ladder irrelevance. This is obviously different to CDT who could be Jackson Mk II or could be a bust. Duusma is no-risk all reward.

I’m with you, his upside is too big to look past imo. I think eagles will call his name out at #1

I’d like to pair him up with sharp.

 

[bUCKET__]

Zac Dronow's breakout game today, bookmark it

 

[Donkers]

I’m willing to cop it but if we hold 1 and 2, I’m taking Sharp and Cummings

It's just the run of it to me. If Essendon as as into Duursma as is rumoured I'd take Cumming at 2 as I think he's a potential pick for Richmond if they go for interstate players where as I think Sharp would then fall to 5 and still be there for the WCE.

I'd want 5&future first (assuming we get band 1 compo for Allen) for 1 and (whatever 19 becomes) Essendon still get pick 1 and have 6 to trade to North for the other Zane Duursma and still have the points for their 2 academy picks.

WCE take Cumming, Sharp & best available with hawks first plus our NGA's & FS whilst then having 2 first rounders next year.

If the club sticks with 1 & 2 I at this stage also want Sharp & Cumming at the picks.

If Noah Hibbings-Hargreaves has some more outstanding games to finish the year like his last game he could greatly jump up the rankings. If he gets consistency in his game his high ceiling potentially pushes him into those top 5 picks. He's the only one I can see really rising hard. Phillipou is seemingly a riser but personally I'm not a huge fan and don't think he rises that high.

I'd personally probably be looking at Farrow for the Hawks first rounder.

I'd also personally happily give up pick 1 for Richmonds F1. I think next year is the year when the senior players fold and they have a year close to WCE 2025.

Potentially pick 1 & 2 in next years draft is very appealing to me. I think we could win 6 games next year with a high 70's % and still finish 17th next year.

Even if WCE rise and there is some team that really falls I can't see that Richmond pick not being top 2.

 

[txbyhull]

Zac Dronow's breakout game today, bookmark it

Met his cousin at work down south, nice bloke

 

[Wooshaaaa]

I’m willing to cop it but if we hold 1 and 2, I’m taking Sharp and Cummings

I'm with you.

 

[eaglevision]

It's just the run of it to me. If Essendon as as into Duursma as is rumoured I'd take Cumming at 2 as I think he's a potential pick for Richmond if they go for interstate players where as I think Sharp would then fall to 5 and still be there for the WCE.

I'd want 5&future first (assuming we get band 1 compo for Allen) for 1 and (whatever 19 becomes) Essendon still get pick 1 and have 6 to trade to North for the other Zane Duursma and still have the points for their 2 academy picks.

WCE take Cumming, Sharp & best available with hawks first plus our NGA's & FS whilst then having 2 first rounders next year.

If the club sticks with 1 & 2 I at this stage also want Sharp & Cumming at the picks.

If Noah Hibbings-Hargreaves has some more outstanding games to finish the year like his last game he could greatly jump up the rankings. If he gets consistency in his game his high ceiling potentially pushes him into those top 5 picks. He's the only one I can see really rising hard. Phillipou is seemingly a riser but personally I'm not a huge fan and don't think he rises that high.

I'd personally probably be looking at Farrow for the Hawks first rounder.

I'd also personally happily give up pick 1 for Richmonds F1. I think next year is the year when the senior players fold and they have a year close to WCE 2025.

Potentially pick 1 & 2 in next years draft is very appealing to me. I think we could win 6 games next year with a high 70's % and still finish 17th next year.

Even if WCE rise and there is some team that really falls I can't see that Richmond pick not being top 2.

If Cochrane is available I’d be more likely to do that, but are Arki butler and Archie Van Dyke that much better than Sharp and Cumming without the assurance that it’s pick 1 and one less year of development? Not in my view.

If we did 1+x for 5,6 with the Bombers I’d be happy to trade pick 6 for Richmond’s F1 if Cochrane is available.

 

[MaxHunt]

I’m willing to cop it but if we hold 1 and 2, I’m taking Sharp and Cummings

As it stands, before the combine, I’m not against these guys for the 1st 2 picks but I'd be annoyed if it was for picks 1 and 2 when there is the potential to make some pick trades to improve our hand and still walk away with them.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Yeah but which faction is he in? I could live with red or green, blue is my preference but I'll be in the cold, cold ground before I accept any yellow faction scum at my beloved football club.

Not a fan of the yellow peril jersey then I take it?

 

[new breed]

B Kelly 33D , 6T , 8 - ins50 .

Keeps racking them up ...

 

[Elite Pete]

Swadling (42d) and Farrow (25d) back to Colts level

 

[mitchzz]

Swadling's numbers are nuts at Colts level. And he had a few mid 20 possession games at league level

Really hope we nab him (or Farrow) at our Hawks pick or our second rounder

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

Not a fan of the yellow peril jersey then I take it?

What is this blasphemy you speak

 

[eaglespremiers]

If that's duusma at 2 then Hoskin-elliot MK2 it is.

Much more Goddard than Hoskin-Elliot IMO.

 

[eaglespremiers]

I’m willing to cop it but if we hold 1 and 2, I’m taking Sharp and Cummings

Not that I'm suggesting your opinion is wrong, but I think that there is almost zero chance of th club taking Sharp and Cummings should we hold picks 1 and 2 come draft night.

 

[Monocle]

Not that I'm suggesting your opinion is wrong, but I think that there is almost zero chance of th club taking Sharp and Cummings should we hold picks 1 and 2 come draft night.

How do you see it playing out with 1 & 2 ?

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Not that I'm suggesting your opinion is wrong, but I think that there is almost zero chance of th club taking Sharp and Cummings should we hold picks 1 and 2 come draft night.

Alas poor Yorrick, I sense you are right.

It’s what I’d do but for a decade The Pieman ignored my requests.

 

[eaglespremiers]

How do you see it playing out with 1 & 2 ?

What do I think the club will do? Or what do I want the club to do?
The mail is Duursma and Duff-Tytler with the first two picks (assuming we receive Band 1 for Allen).

If it was me I would bid on Uwland, Patterson and then Annable with pick 1.
Then I would take Duursma and try and trade the pick 2 to Essendon (along with one of our later picks).
If we could get Duursma (pick 1), Sharp (pick 4, before bids) and Cumming/Lindsay (pick 5, before bids) that would be a sensational draft.
Alternatively (more likely) if we swap picks with Gold Coast we could still end up with Duursma (pick 1), Sharp/Lindsay (pick 6, before bids) and Greeves/Grlj/Cumming (pick 10, before bids).
Taking three top 10-12 picks would be massive for us given the current squeeze on list spots.

We might finish off our draft (before academies & F/S) with our start of 2nd round pick and then we're done. The last two years there have been some really good slider options at this pick and I think that will apply more so this year where there is a lot of evenness after the first 8-10 picks IMO.
I really like the look of Riley Onley at this pick, especially if we don't end up with Sharp or Greeves earlier in the draft and would love an end result of:
Duursma (pick 1), Lindsay (pick 6), Cumming (pick 10) and Onley (pick 19). I think that is an achievable result and really ticks a number of boxes across the board.

Obviously the ruck and key-position depth would remain to be properly resolved, however, I don't think that this is able to be addressed with our draft hand and the players available in the draft.

 

[Monocle]

What do I think the club will do? Or what do I want the club to do?
The mail is Duursma and Duff-Tytler with the first two picks (assuming we receive Band 1 for Allen).

This would be talent banking but not help us out much in 2026, it would continue the short term pain for hopefully long term gain.

If we could get Duursma (pick 1), Sharp (pick 4, before bids) and Cumming/Lindsay (pick 5, before bids) that would be a sensational draft.

I like that strategy.

Alternatively (more likely) if we swap picks with Gold Coast we could still end up with Duursma (pick 1), Sharp/Lindsay (pick 6, before bids) and Greeves/Grlj/Cumming (pick 10, before bids).
Taking three top 10-12 picks would be massive for us given the current squeeze on list spots.

Again this has real merit.

Duursma (pick 1), Lindsay (pick 6), Cumming (pick 10) and Onley (pick 19). I think that is an achievable result and really ticks a number of boxes across the board.

The first three I like the fourth not so much, seems like a consolation prize.

Obviously the ruck and key-position depth would remain to be properly resolved, however, I don't think that this is able to be addressed with our draft hand and the players available in the draft.

Our current list make up is that awful, that there is no way we can address all our needs in one trade and draft period, it's going to take this trade and draft period, and another two, to more comprehensively plug all the holes in our list.

I'm not expecting much of a ladder improvement in 2026, so we should get some more real talent in again in the following years draft at the end of the 2026 season.

 

[txbyhull]

I really honestly cannot bring myself to get behind CDT. If we pick him I’ll genuinely be devastated. He isn’t going to be anything special at AFL level, he’s too small to be a ruck and doesn’t have the forward craft to make it as a forward. If the rules definitely change I can unfortunately see us taking him, and I’m scared it’s just BBW 2.0

 

[eaglevision]

I really honestly cannot bring myself to get behind CDT. If we pick him I’ll genuinely be devastated. He isn’t going to be anything special at AFL level, he’s too small to be a ruck and doesn’t have the forward craft to make it as a forward. If the rules definitely change I can unfortunately see us taking him, and I’m scared it’s just BBW 2.0

His clearance and post stoppage work is by far superior to BWilliams. He COULD end up at a Luke Jackson ceiling but it’s unlikely.

in saying that, he shouldn’t even be considered at pick 1 or 2 with our dire midfield stocks IMO. If he’s still there at 7 if we get Port’s pick then he should be considered alongside Schubert.