List Mgmt. 2025 List Management Discussion - Part 3

[Hubnester]

2025 List Management Discussion - Part 3

Now that our season is over, and news is starting to break - it's time for a fresh thread.

This thread is to discuss all things list management - trades, draft, free agency, delistings and more.
As we are now officially in our off-season, we'll be wanting to keep this thread more strictly on-topic than the previous iterations.
Be respectful. You are allowed to disagree with someone - but play the ball, not the man. Repeat offenders will have their posting rights revoked.

Thanks to Lore once again for this incredibly useful spreadsheet.

2025 KEY DATES
Free Agency Period: Friday, October 3rd - Friday, October 10th
Trade Period: Monday, October 6th - Wednesday, October 15th
AFL Draft: Wednesday, November 19th - Thursday, November 20th

See Also:
2025 Year in Review Rumours & Confirmed Movements 2025 Draft Discussion
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[stavro#4]

I see Tony has liked the post about acquiring Ryan + Flanders for our first rounder

 

[Anythings_sipposible]

Surely Flanders goes, even if it isn't to us. Way to good to be playing as the sub, and with Patterson, Uwland and Addinsall all coming in, plus Lombard from last year, there isn't really a spot for him in the mids or on the flanks at GC. He'd look so good in a Ross Lyon system!

 

[akaifu]

 

[MOLTEN GANGLANDS]

losing our first this year would suck... not even for flanders+ryan, even if it is objectively a good moneyball move i still dont like it

 

[Flandersss]

Flanders easily worth our first pick IMO.

Bloke is a jet. Watch his 2024 highlights

 

[stavro#4]

Christ so the Cmac stuff is real

 

[nikkig98]

losing our first this year would suck... not even for flanders+ryan, even if it is objectively a good moneyball move i still dont like it

It's not meant to be a great draft though by all accounts, all top end talent seems to be academy based. I mean we drafted boxshall at pick 45, im backing in our guys to find pieces at the lower end

 

[nikkig98]

Flanders easily worth our first pick IMO.

Bloke is a jet. Watch his 2024 highlights

couldnt agree more, he can accumulate disposals but also has great line breaking speed, compliments our other hard tacklers well.

especially our first pick in this draft, watched a fair few scouting videos and theres not much out there at those picks of the draft anyway

 

[StCicatriz]

bloody hell means we must be sending a few off to new homes

 

[puntking]

Not sure how all this gets done

 

[stavro#4]

Cya Steele & Roma.

Otherwise I have no ****ing clue how this gets done.

 

[sainter7]

Flanders worth a first yes, but idk why we're so content to give it up. He played as sub and has been played out of position all year. Gotta play hardball, he can request a trade and make it awkward, offer a shit trade, and then throw in a third at the last minute so gold Coast can satisfy their fans that they "won" the trade. It's what geelong did with bailey smith

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Bailey Smith

Age

25

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

. Didn't budge then right at the end, threw in a late pick and bulldogs flinched. I know he was out of contract so maybe different situation. Same happened for macrae to us tho.

 

[buck12]

I see Tony has liked the post about acquiring Ryan + Flanders for our first rounder

Has he liked any regarding Windy. Still think he is crucial. Has literally got better with every single season in the AFL.

 

[StCicatriz]

Cya Steele & Roma.

Otherwise I have no ****ing clue how this gets done.

i honestly dont mind if they go. feels like the gresham moment.

 

[westernsainter]

Feel like it's being forgotten a bit that this year is meant to be a thin draft. If that is the case **** it let's burn our first rounder and bring a stack of talent in for next year. Just don't let our future first go!

 

[Hayes4PM]

JSOS: Daaaaaaaaddddd, can you pump up my contract valuuuuuuuuuuuue?

SOS: No, you’re already on good coin.

Jo Silvagni: Stephen. Pump up your sons contract value please?!

SOS: Fiiiiiiiiine.

 

[MOLTEN GANGLANDS]

Flanders easily worth our first pick IMO.

Bloke is a jet. Watch his 2024 highlights

I cant find any, pls link

 

[stavro#4]

i honestly dont mind if they go. feels like the gresham moment.

Similar.

But would be much bigger. It would be a proper passing of the torch type of moment.

 

[Significant]

Pick 7 for CMac and change (Aleer)
F1 for Ryan and Flanders
TDK and/or JSOS as FA

More than happy with this before looking at on trading Marshall or Steele. There would be some unlucky players on our list if all that came to fruition.

 

[Tom12]

Its interesting the level of fervour that's been created. I'm excited by Nas resigning, TDK coming across and Flanders if it happens.

I doubt JSOS occurs and don't believe Ryan or Aleer are going to take us where we want to go.

I'm a bit meh, particularly why Windhager is not signed and supporters are so keen to see Steele and/or Marshall traded.

I was hoping they'd be moved last off last season because we need the picks.

Steele has been on the decline for a few years, still gets huge midfield minutes and ultimately isn't a first choice mid anymore. He doesn't have trade currency anymore which is frustrating, but it will be addition by subtraction by opening up a midfield spot.

 

[sainter7]

Pick 7 for CMac and change (Aleer)
F1 for Ryan and Flanders
TDK and/or JSOS as FA

More than happy with this before looking at on trading Marshall or Steele. There would be some unlucky players on our list if all that came to fruition.

Definitely not pick 7 for cmac and aleer. Cmac is out of favour. Aleer played 2s for much of this year. Do we not remember how easy it is to win trades easily when a player requests a trade to a single club?

 

[bladeyy21]

Feel like it's being forgotten a bit that this year is meant to be a thin draft. If that is the case **** it let's burn our first rounder and bring a stack of talent in for next year. Just don't let our future first go!

This. Plus, our pick will likely end up much lower with all the academy stuff. It's already been pushed down 1 with Oscar Allen confirmed leaving eagles via FA. Expecting it to fall another 4-5 picks

 

[Bob Butter]

Flanders worth a first yes, but idk why we're so content to give it up. He played as sub and has been played out of position all year. Gotta play hardball, he can request a trade and make it awkward, offer a shit trade, and then throw in a third at the last minute so gold Coast can satisfy their fans that they "won" the trade. It's what geelong did with bailey smith. Didn't budge then right at the end, threw in a late pick and bulldogs flinched. I know he was out of contract so maybe different situation. Same happened for macrae to us tho.

My exact thoughts, he's easily worth 7, AA calibre and fits our game perfectly. Slots into Nas' spot on the HBF and can rotate through the middle. But GC always take unders so we can probably get him cheaper. Also, GC might not even want pick 7, theyre already shopping around their other first round picks so that they can get their 9 first round academy kids with a bunch of picks in the 40's and 50's.

 

[stavro#4]

I cant find any, pls link

AFL app.

Suns. Flanders.

Watch any game highlight. Ones you should watch start at round 16 2024. It’s about 5-6 weeks consecutive of pure midfield time

 

[akaifu]

Melbourne interest in Max Heath

Giants list squeeze even if they trade Aleer. More bargaining power for us