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Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXIX

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For those speculating on pick 6.

Cal Twomey's form guide had Dean at 8.

Ahead of him are Zeke Uwland, Dylan Patterson, and Daniel Annable who are GC, GC, Brisbane bound.

Key position players tend to rise going into the draft.

In my opinion there is a high likelihood of a club putting a bid in on Dean before pick 6.
 
For those speculating on pick 6.

Cal Twomey's form guide had Dean at 8.

Ahead of him are Zeke Uwland, Dylan Patterson, and Daniel Annable who are GC, GC, Brisbane bound.

Key position players tend to rise going into the draft.

In my opinion there is a high likelihood of a club putting a bid in on Dean before pick 6.
That is one of the reasons trading up to pick 2 is a good move, especially if you like Dursma
 
The division between the group needs to be swept out the door immediately and hopefully it is. Not a happy group, but hopefully some stern words to our leaders have pulled a few into line.

This off season should be interesting

Feel this is where the GW "Carlton first" is coming from.

More than a few of us have felt that the players have had far too much say in how it's going to be, but given recent commentary from Walsh, Cripps and Weiters the landscape appears to be changing.

Looks like the tail has been docked.
 
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Charlie's beef with the club is not with Voss.

#Bluemour
Thanks TODN.

Hard to know what the real reason is with some players wanting a change. With TDK it’s clear, JSOS was eventually after a bigger/longer contract from the start and strung Collingwood and Bulldogs along.

Caro Wilson was certain Charlie didn’t want to play for Voss anymore, which seems a bit immature and a weak reason imo. I wonder if we’ll find out the real reason in due course?
 
Thanks TODN.

Hard to know what the real reason is with some players wanting a change. With TDK it’s clear, JSOS was eventually after a bigger/longer contract from the start and strung Collingwood and Bulldogs along.

Caro Wilson was certain Charlie didn’t want to play for Voss anymore, which seems a bit immature and a weak reason imo. I wonder if we’ll find out the real reason in due course?

A decent source told me during the year, the exact words of (when discussing Charlies form):

'the club think charlie is a bit soft so they push him to play through his niggles a bit'

i suspect he's got the shits with the medical department and coaches - if the above is true.
 
The fact Charlie has “beef” with the club after the efforts he’s put in over the past season encapsulates why we are and have been so poor. Players who want to take big money but only perform on their terms or when it suits them. The club should have beef with Charlie for the way he has fronted up the past season. At least it sounds like GW is finally tackling the elephant in the room with the Carlton first mantra which seemingly exited the building in the early 2000s and hasn’t been seen since.
 
The fact Charlie has “beef” with the club after the efforts he’s put in over the past season encapsulates why we are and have been so poor. Players who want to take big money but only perform on their terms or when it suits them. The club should have beef with Charlie for the way he has fronted up the past season. At least it sounds like GW is finally tackling the elephant in the room with the Carlton first mantra which seemingly exited the building in the early 2000s and hasn’t been seen since.
Who said it’s fact?
 

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Another one. Different poster.

Charlie's beef with the club is not with Voss.

#Bluemour
The club has been playing Charlie injured a lot the last couple of years. If you have a problem with the club, talk to the club first before getting your manager to spill his guts to the media.

It could also be that the club has expressed a desire for Charlie to be more accountable in the forward line with second and third efforts. And Charlie thinks because he’s talented he doesn’t need to put in the hard yards.
 

For those speculating on pick 6.

Cal Twomey's form guide had Dean at 8.

Ahead of him are Zeke Uwland, Dylan Patterson, and Daniel Annable who are GC, GC, Brisbane bound.

Key position players tend to rise going into the draft.

In my opinion there is a high likelihood of a club putting a bid in on Dean before pick 6.
Feel like Essendon will be the club most likely to bid with Ridley requesting a trade, Reid made of tissue paper and Hayes out with an ACL.
 
Looking forward on taking the roll of the dice on Chesser. Sounds he could be a shrewd acquisition to address some needs if he gets his body right. Reidy surely will be depth for Pitto, despite the lack of positivity of Freo fans, I’d argue he and HOK will fight for second ruck duties and it adds competition in the 2s to allow Hudson to develop his game further without being gifted games. Especially with extended benches coming in. I don’t expect anything more than that for a token pick.

Id like to think there will be something of a surprise for us if Charlie goes, I would like to think our list management team will be innovative in making us better. I currently feel if he wants to gtfo, we should invite offers. The targeted players (Chesser, Reidy) plus Dean and Ison if both land make us younger in profile again. Walter has the ceiling to be a very good forward and I’d be interested alongside pick 6 and Flanders if we could. But if not I’d like Austin to play some chess here and work some magic.
 

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Still don't think Butters will move but I'm glad we're reportedly having the discussion with him.

Personally think Port would be insane not to cash in now, rather than losing him for a pick next season but they're within their rights to do that.
 
For those speculating on pick 6.

Cal Twomey's form guide had Dean at 8.

Ahead of him are Zeke Uwland, Dylan Patterson, and Daniel Annable who are GC, GC, Brisbane bound.

Key position players tend to rise going into the draft.

In my opinion there is a high likelihood of a club putting a bid in on Dean before pick 6.
West coast would be remiss if they didn’t use pick 2 (if they get it for Oscar Allan) to bid on Uwland. When I watched the Carlton vs GC17 reserves match, he was their best player by a mile.
 
Still don't think Butters will move but I'm glad we're reportedly having the discussion with him.

Personally think Port would be insane not to cash in now, rather than losing him for a pick next season but they're within their rights to do that.
Port can match the offer for Butters and force a trade.
 
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