Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXIX

[lopezz]

Why lie, post was never deleted!

Lie? Come on. Most have been, i just didn't check. Calling me a liar is a very harsh call

 

[gab213]

lol I genuinely hate SOS what a total loser of a bloke

Its clear his see you next Tuesday attitude was what made him a great footballer but a total flog

He was an awesome player for us, I wouldn't be calling him a loser. Having said that, he's always been an ordinary bloke.

 

[Number_9]

Carlton have slowly become a shit club, getting another dud in Reidy we already have list cloggers, so hey why not just add more.

gee you've been a miserable sod since your source left the club

 

[JJBagger]

gee you've been a miserable sod since your source left the club

Is it Sam McClure?

 

[chickendippas]

Charlie's knee has had multiple surgeries and is approaching 30. Now is the time to cash in the chips and get maximum return.

Completely valid and I’m not against trading him. It’s the maximising value bit that I’m referring to.

There’s an element of risk when trading for potential vs a known quantity. In saying that, GW and the list team are in a far better position than I am to make a call on whether someone like Walter is likely to deliver on that potential.

Moving on Charlie is a huge call. Might be the right one, but imo we would want to be pretty confident about what value we are getting in return.

 

[Psychochook]

I like a bit of excitement and surprise.

Going after Butters is all well and good but it's not inventive or inspired list management.

Trading to get Jagga was all chips in.

Trading to get Butters will be the same.

Although it will require some astute list management decision making, the outcome won't be inspirational or out of the box and hindsight won't paint Austin and co. as genius operators.

Farm selling seems to be our go though, so I'll just need to quell my expectations for a mind blowing off season of fist pump-worthy, activity.

Still, be nice to have some extra class roving the opposition's ruck taps.

...and Walsh may just be my new fave player.

Loves it.

Out.

 

[carlton_99]

People mad at the acquisition of a 3rd ruck! Dees just re-signed Tom Campbell

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Tom Campbell

Age

34

Ht

201cm

Wt

108kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.1

2star

K

4.2

2star

HB

4.8

3star

CL

1.6

4star

HO

17.0

5star

D

5.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

2.0

1star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

2.0

5star

D

7.2

2star

K

4.2

2star

HB

3.0

3star

CL

1.2

4star

HO

13.2

5star

as their 2nd ruck. We aren't exactly going to get Max Gawn

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Max Gawn

Age

33

Ht

209cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.7

4star

CL

2.8

4star

HO

35.3

5star

D

18.5

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

7.0

4star

CL

3.5

4star

HO

29.2

5star

D

8.4

3star

K

3.6

2star

HB

4.8

4star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

15.6

5star

to ruck for our VFL team are we

 

[Psychochook]

FWIW, I've said trade Charlie for a while now.

Got shot down a bit. Took it on the chin.

Glad you're finally all on board.

 

[MileHigh]

Regarding latest Bluemour re: Harry Dean. I thought he has already committed to us. Is this not official and SOS is trying to poach him? I understand why he would bid on him as clearly his hate runs deep, but if hes already agreed to come to us as F/S in writing or whatever is done to confirm it surely it would be hard for him to back out of that or change his mind?

 

[gab213]

People mad at the acquisition of a 3rd ruck. Dees just re-signed Tom Campbell as their 2nd ruck. We aren't exactly going to get Max Gawn to ruck for our VFL team are we

People are just looking for things to complain about now. Worried about a VFL Ruckman, who only plays seniors in the case of an extreme emergency.

 

[Benaly28]

Carlton have slowly become a shit club, getting another dud in Reidy we already have list cloggers, so hey why not just add more.

Maybe wait till the end of the trade period before making negative comments based on one or two moneyball acquisitions.

 

[Gingerbread man]

why is president making that decision on elijah?

probably over a dozen people at the club more qualified to make that call, that's not including his teammates.

weird.

Yeah let's just keep the bloke and let him turn up and play whenever he wants

 

[gab213]

why is president making that decision on elijah?

probably over a dozen people at the club more qualified to make that call, that's not including his teammates.

weird.

The President would be making a decision in conjunction with the Board based upon the recommendation of those in the football department. It's totally appropriate.

 

[Treesloth]

FWIW, I've said trade Charlie for a while now.

Got shot down a bit. Took it on the chin.

Glad you're finally all on board.

Some of the posters here are just fundamentally opposed to the concept of trading Charlie . Also copped it when I shared the intel Sydney were into him back in July.

Which is fine, I guess. Just doesn’t make for much productive discussion on here when it’s a very real chance of happening haha.

Very much of the view that losing him will not hurt us as much as many think.

Yes he’s a star but his absence would open up all sorts of possibilities for us.

 

[CarmenSandiego]

The President would be making a decision in conjunction with the Board based upon the recommendation of those in the football department. It's totally appropriate.

Huh? Then it would be the football department making the decision, rather than the President.

I don't think we should keep him but it's weird (if true). Who else does the Prez wanna delist?

 

[JoeyPBLUES]

He was an awesome player for us, I wouldn't be calling him a loser. Having said that, he's always been an ordinary bloke.

Great player real ordinary bloke. Have seen him walk away from an Auskick clinic because the kids didn’t know him… yes that’s true.

 

[bigblueboy]

The President would be making a decision in conjunction with the Board based upon the recommendation of those in the football department. It's totally appropriate.

Except it didn’t happen.

 

[JoeyPBLUES]

Huh? Then it would be the football department making the decision, rather than the President.

I don't think we should keep him but it's weird (if true). Who else does the Prez wanna delist?

I’d venture to say it was referred to board/pres for final say especially given hes still contracted. They would only be acting on it at request of footy dept.

 

[MileHigh]

Charlie's knee has had multiple surgeries and is approaching 30. Now is the time to cash in the chips and get maximum return.

Yep totally agree especially if his heart isnt in it. Ive said it before but why he was made part of the leadership group I'll never understand. In fact I do understand, they wanted a back, mid and forward in the leadership group. And in hindsight its one of the really poor decisions made by the club in this kanoodling culture we have germinated. His brother was a leader. He is and will always be a younger brother. Hes not a leader. No knock on the man I love watching him play but we arent all leaders and he plays his best footy on instinct and he isnt a thinker. The leadership role is too much for someone of his mindset (dont make me Myers-Briggs him).

Trade him now for max value or take his leadership status away (politefully and diplomatically) and just let him play.

And Walsh should be captain. If he can fix up his hacked kicks inside 50 hes elite but he wants and demands success and we need fresh energy and he Joel Selwood energy.

 

[gab213]

Huh? Then it would be the football department making the decision, rather than the President.

I don't think we should keep him but it's weird (if true). Who else does the Prez wanna delist?

You're misreading the whole situation. In Elijah's case, there are obviously circumstances which are out of the ordinary, and the Board would be making a decision based on recommendations they have received. The President can't make any decision on his own, on any issue, he speaks on behalf of the board.

Elijah won't be pushed out due to a lack of talent, and reportedly, his teammates don't want him in the team. There's nothing to be outraged about here.

 

[GT619]

Except it didn’t happen.

what didn't happen

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

Was spoken to sternly for shit effort. Should sent him to bootcamp for preseason.

Possibly more of a chance to band camp, “this time in band camp ____”

 

[Treesloth]

I’d venture to say it was referred to board/pres for final say especially given hes still contracted. They would only be acting on it at request of footy dept.

Yep. Not an uncommon practice for major decisions at clubs, including in the list management space (ie having the board agree to large offers for FAs or major trade calls etc)

 

[gab213]

Except it didn’t happen.

Probably not, but if anything like that did happen, it wouldn't be something to carry on about.

 

[Accidental genius]

lol I genuinely hate SOS what a total loser of a bloke

Its clear his see you next Tuesday attitude was what made him a great footballer but a total flog

Maybe it’s known by most but I heard some of his past team mates hate him with a passion.