Recommitted Zach Merrett [UFA 2027] - Wanted a trade to Hawthorn, but it didn't get done

[Lore]

There we go, that's the clip:

 

[Come back Cyril]

It depends if we are a live chance for Petrecca or not? If not, I’d thrown in the Worpel compo (end of first round) or F1. The F1 will be close to the Worpel compo anyway in a better draft (assuming Hawthorn make top 4 again, which they should with Day and Merrett in for Worpel)

If Merrett is our only option it definitely raises what I'd be willing to pay, but that still seems way overs to me for a 30 year old who isn’t in the top 10 mids in the game. I rate Merrett, BTW, but a top ten, another first and a player or 2nd rounder is well above historical value.

A top ten, Worpel compo and Reeves would be about my max for a reasonable deal if Trac is unavailable. Maybe the top 10 and f1.

 

[Come back Cyril]

That proposed package can be easily matched by plenty of clubs including dogs and pies. I also think Adelaide will throw their hat in the ring for Merrett if it looks like things aren’t going well trade wise. And like I said if it’s true that the relationship is sooo fracture potentially going to Adelaide is better than coming back to Essendon. Do they have any young victorians that could have mutual interest? Who knows, but there’s still plenty of time to find out

How would Pies match?

Dogs definitely wouldn't, don't need him at all

 

[FootyGuru]

You do realise you can NOT trade Merrett and co without their consent right…..

Yeah keep 2-3 players that don’t want to be there, that will work well for the culture of the club and getting future players via F/A and Trade.

I do. But like you have conceded the relationship between Merrett and Essendon is supposedly so bad they he would prefer play anywhere but.

I have also said it’s on his mangers to ensure a trade can actually be done at hawthorn before Zach commits there.

It’s on hawthorns and zachs managers to get Essendon a package they would entertain, otherwise the managers will have to find another suiter.

But I’m sure hawthorn will provide the necessary package to get Zach and it’ll be win/win, but let’s not pretend that Zach has all of a sudden lost trade value. Both clubs know his value.

 

[Hawkk]

Worpel may not leave yet! I do not feel the compo will be enough for us to let him go…

He’s gone. You don’t go this far without signing a contract and stay. Hopefully his form elevates the compo from 2nd round to end of first though - we may need it to get the targets over the line.

 

[FootyGuru]

How would Pies match?

Dogs definitely wouldn't, don't need him at all

Pies have plenty of unsigned players that could fetch picks back, they also have future picks. Might be willing to part with some recent draftees not getting a game.

Dogs similar situation.

There’s still many weeks to go. Plenty could happen and more clubs could emerge.

 

[Hawkk]

That proposed package can be easily matched by plenty of clubs including dogs and pies. I also think Adelaide will throw their hat in the ring for Merrett if it looks like things aren’t going well trade wise. And like I said if it’s true that the relationship is sooo fracture potentially going to Adelaide is better than coming back to Essendon. Do they have any young victorians that could have mutual interest? Who knows, but there’s still plenty of time to find out

Lol. That sort of stuff never happens in trades anymore. I know it sucks that’s he’s probably going to Hawthorn (of all teams) but these trades invariably get done. Especially if the trading party has the assets to get it done. Just comes down to whether it involves players, picks or a combo.

 

[BIGHAWK23]

The Essendon mouthpiece is on it now

Come to terms bomber fans

 

[Elixuh]

The Essendon mouthpiece is on it now

Come to terms bomber fans

Oof. Onus on the Hawks to get a deal done!

 

[Elixuh]

Worpel is a RFA…. Hawks can force a trade! I can’t see the Cats parting with their 1st round pick or paying enough to get us a first round pick.

Worpel has already stated Hawks or Cats!

Enjoy your name change friend

 

[Saints43]

Comparing the Merrett situation to stringers is laughable.

All I’m saying is that if it’s true and the bridges are burnt with Essendon,

Hawthorn then don’t pony up a fair trade.

Merrett might prefer end up at another club rather than going back to Essendon. Which opens the doors to other clubs.

Merrett reportedly wants to go to a club that is pretty much a guarantee to make finals, and in all probability go deep into finals.
That club needs to have salary cap space.
That club needs to have a decent draft hand.

Which club/s do you think meets that criteria?

Merrett can't stay and I can't see that there's enough eligible clubs for a bidding war.

 

[tombomb]

The geniuses at Essendon have told everyone that Merrett won't be traded under any circumstances so if I am Hawthorn, I would just sit back and watch this trainwreck play out for the next few weeks. Then offer pick 8 and a F1 late in the trade period. It's a perfectly decent offer given his age.

Why go down the path of trying to push valuable players out who don't want to leave if Essendon aren't going to be reasonable?! Hawthorn would just be taking Essendon's problem and making it their own by pissing off players.

If they don't accept the picks offer, revisit it next year when Merrett asks to leave again.

 

[Come back Cyril]

Pies have plenty of unsigned players that could fetch picks back, they also have future picks. Might be willing to part with some recent draftees not getting a game.

Dogs similar situation.

There’s still many weeks to go. Plenty could happen and more clubs could emerge.

Pies can only trade one f1 (pick 15) - who are their unsigned players/recent draftees that have value to Essendon (and importantly would be willing to go to Dons?). I know their list and don't see any, but happy to be proven wrong.

Again, dogs don't need Merrett!

It is clear now your other suitors who will start a bidding war are more theory than well researched market assessment.

 

[Leather Poisoning]

When's the last time hawthorn committed to a player and walked away? genuinely curious, nothing coming to mind.

There's been players we have purused such as Mackay and Ratagulea (yeh I can't believe it either) where we didn't land them and the reported/spin on it was we pulled out of the race because the price was beyond what we wanted to pay.

I think we genuinely push through to make it happen every time a player nominates hawthorn. So I would say a lot of this work/agreement happens before that announcement.

 

[HairyO]

Worpel is a RFA…. Hawks can force a trade! I can’t see the Cats parting with their 1st round pick or paying enough to get us a first round pick.

Worpel has already stated Hawks or Cats!

As below, Geelong know we can match and know they dont want to use a pick, so of course they structure it to get Band 2. Hocking would know exactly what is needed. And even if he didnt, Harley would.

Worpel may not leave yet! I do not feel the compo will be enough for us to let him go…

Geelong dont screw these things up. They get who they want. The range to get Band 2 is pretty big and I would be amazed if we didnt accept it.

If he has contract offer from us and doesnt want to sign it then he is gone. We would be silly to not let him go. But also, Its very easy to get a 26 year old Band 2 compensation.

The geniuses at Essendon have told everyone that Merrett won't be traded under any circumstances so if I am Hawthorn, I would just sit back and watch this trainwreck play out for the next few weeks. Then offer pick 8 and a F1 late in the trade period. It's a perfectly decent offer given his age.

Why go down the path of trying to push valuable players out who don't want to leave if Essendon aren't going to be reasonable?! Hawthorn would just be taking Essendon's problem and making it their own by pissing off players.

If they don't accept the picks offer, revisit it next year when Merrett asks to leave again.

Surely it would be organised by the time their B & F comes around. The thought of their 2025 winner not attending out of protest would be beyond humiliating. Instead they can manufacture the "win" by having him talk about him going and talk up the club and thanking them. Etc.

 

[Hawkk]

The Essendon mouthpiece is on it now

Come to terms bomber fans

What I would give to knock the Cats out of the finals and jag the Essendon captain for peanuts in two weeks. Even if it meant we got smoked by the Lions in the big dance.

I would absolutely do that deal with the devil

 

[Elixuh]

The geniuses at Essendon have told everyone that Merrett won't be traded under any circumstances so if I am Hawthorn, I would just sit back and watch this trainwreck play out for the next few weeks. Then offer pick 8 and a F1 late in the trade period. It's a perfectly decent offer given his age.

Why go down the path of trying to push valuable players out who don't want to leave if Essendon aren't going to be reasonable?! Hawthorn would just be taking Essendon's problem and making it their own by pissing off players.

If they don't accept the picks offer, revisit it next year when Merrett asks to leave again.

There is a time aspect for the Hawks. Some of their defenders are getting on. Gunston isn’t going to be kicking 70 goals a season forever. They’re really in a win now window already.

 

[Yoda_]

Mitch Cleary running with 2 x top 10 picks

 

[BIGHAWK23]

Oof. Onus on the Hawks to get a deal done!

If Twomey is saying it

It’s through Gritted but well Essendon informed teeth

 

[Elixuh]

If Twomey is saying it

It’s through Gritted but well Essendon informed teeth

I’m not disputing the truth of it, in fact I’m agreeing it’s probably true!

 

[BIGHAWK23]

I’m not disputing the truth of it, in fact I’m agreeing it’s probably true!

Yeah I’m aware

It’s as close to a public awareness by Essendon that they know he will leave

 

[BIGHAWK23]

Mitch Cleary running with 2 x top 10 picks

Mitch Cleary running the agenda train

It won’t be two top 10s

Unless the ass falls out next year and we finish bottom 8

 

[Leather Poisoning]

Hawks fans think that Merrett relationship with Essendon being untenable is helping lower his trade value.

If Merrett and Essendon relationship can’t be fixed, and hawthorn don’t pony up in the trade, Merrett might prefer to play at another club rather than Essendon creating a bidding war for him.

I don’t think this is the case but I don’t see how all of sudden hawks are gonna get him cheap because of a couple of comments from players.

We're not saying we'll get him cheap.

We will set a limit on what we are prepared to pay and not go beyond it.

The worst case scenario for us is keeping our picks and players.
If Essendon can find another club willing to pay 2 first rounders or more than I say good luck to them.

 

[FootyGuru]

Pies can only trade one f1 (pick 15) - who are their unsigned players/recent draftees that have value to Essendon (and importantly would be willing to go to Dons?). I know their list and don't see any, but happy to be proven wrong.

Again, dogs don't need Merrett!

It is clear now your other suitors who will start a bidding war are more theory than well researched market assessment.

Currently Merrett plans to meet both those clubs. Dogs are no guarantee to get butters and who’s to say they can’t try and get both.

But I’m just responding to hawks fans who are saying Merrett has lost his value because of his fractured relationship with Essendon. My point is that doesn’t help hawthorn because if hawthorn don’t satisfy Essendon and it’s actually that fractured Merrett would go anywhere to get out of Essendon.

But like I’ve said I believe merretts manager wouldn’t have gone this far down the road with the hawks unless the bones of this trade has been agreed upon. Which I also think could be a win/win for both clubs.

 

[Elixuh]

Mitch Cleary running with 2 x top 10 picks

That’s a fair deal

 

[BIGHAWK23]

Currently Merrett plans to meet both those clubs. Dogs are no guarantee to get butters and who’s to say they can’t try and get both.

But I’m just responding to hawks fans who are saying Merrett has lost his value because of his fractured relationship with Essendon. My point is that doesn’t help hawthorn because if hawthorn don’t satisfy Essendon and it’s actually that fractured Merrett would go anywhere to get out of Essendon.

But like I’ve said I believe merretts manager wouldn’t have gone this far down the road with the hawks unless the bones of this trade has been agreed upon. Which I also think could be a win/win for both clubs.

Nope, not anymore