List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 3

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List Changes - 2025

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In:

• Brandon Starcevich arrives at West Coast in a three team deal
• Tylar Young (Richmond) arrived at West Coast in exchange for Pick 38.
• Deven Robertson (Brisbane) has agreed to join West Coast and will be signed on to the rookie list after being delisted by Brisbane

Out:

• Oscar Allen joins Brisbane as a FA - West Coast receive Pick 2 as compensation
• Liam Ryan and a 2027 R3 pick has been traded to St Kilda for a 2026 R2 pick
• Campbell Chesser has been traded to Carlton for Pick 41
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Coen Livingstone joins the list of players not offered a new contract

Players Out of Contract - 2025 (0)

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• Jamie Cripps and Malakai Champion seem to have been offered new contracts despite there being no official announcement. Means that all players out of contract for 2025 have been given new contracts despite or removed from the playing list

2025 Draft Order

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Current Draft Picks:
Round 1: 1, 2, 13
Round 2: 34, 41
Round 3: 53, 58 (These picks are in excess of available list spots so will be forfeited if we don’t consolidate our 2025 picks up the order or trade some for future picks)

List Spots Available (39 of 48):
• Main list (33 of 38) - 5* (in: Starcevich, Young out: Allen, Ryan, Chesser, Hunt, Petruccelle, Jamieson)
• Cat A rookie list (5 of 8) - 3* (in: Robertson (pending), out: Rawlinson)
• Cat B rookie list (1 of 2) - 2 (out: Livingstone)

* Based on Dewar being upgraded after the maximum 3 years on the rookie list. Hutchinson may also have been upgraded but this isn’t confirmed - if it is we will have 4 main and 4 rookie list spots open

* Matthew Clarke has stated we have 5 main list spots

Matt Clarke wraps up the trade period - 6PR

 

[WCE777]

Given we’ve not needed it for any manoeuvres thus far, keeping our F2 is now a big priority.

The changes to matching bids next year, where you can only use two picks, means high end second rounders will be absolutely gold to some clubs.

Plenty of ways to move up to a GC 7/8 with our current hand alone.

agree with this, we still have Chesser & Ryan trades to come through and at worst Chesser for T Young pick.
Ryan should be a pick this year as he is contracted, but given our situation with picks and list spots, more than happy to push that into 2026 with an upgrade!
Go into 2026 with all our picks and a 2nd round STK pick, we still have plenty to do next year with all our more highly rated NGA/FS prospects and a couple of elite top 5 picks imo.
GC pick 7 is easily attainable with 13 & 34 and no bids or 13 & 34 & 38 and a F2nd or F3rd back.
So an extra F2nd or F3rd from GC.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Leaving Gold Coast’s picks 7 and 8 and Carlton’s pick 10 aside for now, because they are likely going to be involved in future trades.

Bids on Uwland, Patterson, Annable and Dean are set to eat picks 15, 17, 18, 22, 23. And it’s probable Gold Coast make a deal with 7 that results in another 1-2 picks being eaten in the top 25. Bids on Sweid and King could eat picks 27 and 30 and 32.

So could be 9-10 picks burned to match bids on 6 players in the top 30.

That would mean our picks 34 and 38 actually end up more like 30 and 34.

...which is actually not that exciting now that I’ve written it out.

If they come in like that, it's a combined 200 point boost for us to match bids on Williams and Banfield.

 

[eaglespremiers]

Huzzah.

 

[uptheWC]

agree with this, we still have Chesser & Ryan trades to come through and at worst Chesser for T Young pick.
Ryan should be a pick this year as he is contracted, but given our situation with picks and list spots, more than happy to push that into 2026 with an upgrade!
Go into 2026 with all our picks and a 2nd round STK pick, we still have plenty to do next year with all our more highly rated NGA/FS prospects and a couple of elite top 5 picks imo.
GC pick 7 is easily attainable with 13 & 34 and no bids or 13 & 34 & 38 and a F2nd or F3rd back.
So an extra F2nd or F3rd from GC.

Would much prefer picks this year for one or both of Ryan and Chesser

 

[WCE777]

Also in relation to Gold Coast and their points - they will lose more than just pick 7 or 8 trading for Petracca

Melbourne will want 2x R1 picks for him at least

Agree, what does everyone think the offer will be?
8 & 15 or 18 or something with 2nd rounds involved, futures?

 

[WCEswift]

So Duursma has point of seperation from others, speed, distance running, marking and being able to make game opening kicks are all strengths over others. CDT however is a jack of MOST trades (cant take a contested mark to save his life) and master of none.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Id be keeping 34 for for a Williams bid

I have no problems going into deficit for 2026 assuming we get decent future value for Ryan and Chesser.

I'd be expecting 2 x F2 from these two trades

 

[Wce17]

Huzzah.

Hearing anything about what we might do next?

 

[hbk2015]

apparently pick 33 wont be used on Tylah Young

 

[WCE777]

Among other tidbits, Ralph saying we won’t be using 33 (now 34) for Young but have a plan to bring him in

That must be a clip of a more expansive conversation.
No way Ralphy has any joy for WC

 

[Dark Sharks]

"They'll get Tylar young, it won't be pick for 33..."

* Everyone around the panel nods

".... It'll be pick 12 "

*They all laugh and high five Jon Ralph

 

[WCE777]

Had to be west coast getting the band 1 pick 2 compo for the AFL to decide the system is a rort.

Almost 40 years of propping the competition up and when we run into strife they balk at the system.

Ain't that the bloody TRUTH!!!

 

[Yeahnahmate]

Would much prefer picks this year for one or both of Ryan and Chesser

Nah, late picks this draft are dirt

 

[Jeremy McLovin]

So with confirmation of Allen getting us pick 2, is the 2017 trade with gold coast for our F1 the greatest pick swap we've ever done, taking into account flow on effects? We got the picks for Allen, Ryan, and Petrucelle from trading them pick 50 and swapping our F1 for their F2 - what ended up being a three spot slide. All three players spent eight years on the list, with one being a premiership player and AA, another being captain and leading goal scorer, and the third existing. Ryan will now get us something in a trade and Allen has gotten us pick 2 - not a bad return at all!

 

[WCE777]

Who is the ruck who Ralph reckons we after?

We have been after a few and not landed them.
English, Cameron, Marshall.

 

[Jootube]

Now that OA and Starc are sorted - what do we expect to receive for Liam Ryan

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Liam Ryan

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

76kg

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11.3

3star

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2.7

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2.0

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.0

3star

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1.9

1star

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3.3

3star

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1.6

3star

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1.3

5star

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11.4

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9.0

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3.8

4star

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1.8

4star

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Saints first pick is 50, and we would spew up if that was genuinely offered.

Surely its a F2 or we just don't trade him?

 

[Yeahnahmate]

Rucks are overrated. Let’s put that icing on the cake via future trade once we have an actual cake

 

[Yeahnahmate]

Now that OA and Starc are sorted - what do we expect to receive for Liam Ryan?
Saints first pick is 50, and we would spew up if that was genuinely offered.

Surely its a F2 or we just don't trade him?

2nd rounder for Ryan, 3rd for Chess

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Now that we've profited well from it at least once, I hope they get rid of FA compo picks next year, or FA altogether.

 

[Ilkka Sinisalo]

Had to be west coast getting the band 1 pick 2 compo for the AFL to decide the system is a rort.

Almost 40 years of propping the competition up and when we run into strife they balk at the system.

Apparently Ben McKay being worth pick 3 wasn't enough of a joke?

The compensation system should definitely change; it's stupid that compensation for the same player can range from pick 2 to pick 19 depending on which club he happens to play for. It's a dumb system because it encourages bad teams to let good players go so they can pile up draft picks, and the whole thing with Starcevich was a farce because the club was forced to trade for him to avoid pick 2 being watered down. So Brisbane lose Starcevich and get extra draft capital because the Eagles had no choice but to trade, meanwhile they sign Draper and Allen and lose nothing but money.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Looking like we really need a young KPD. Is it Archer or will he be our future ruck?

I have an interest in Thredgold or Curtin this year. Likely landing with a pick around 20. We have Shanahan as a NGA coming next year. His development will be one to watch.

 

[Elite Pete]

Champion signed on but Livingstone waiting.

Young possible trade mentioned. Later picks and not 34

 

[joeyavalanche]

Happy with how all of this is tracking. But still don’t want to go into round 1 with improvements around other areas of the ground and the same two rucks.

 

[Jeremy McLovin]

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Looking like we really need a young KPD. Is it Archer or will he be our future ruck?

I have an interest in Thredgold or Curtin this year. Likely landing with a pick around 20. We have Shanahan as a NGA coming next year. His development will be one to watch.

Thredgold would be great, but someone might reach given his combine.

 

[Big_Birdy]

Now that OA and Starc are sorted - what do we expect to receive for Liam Ryan?
Saints first pick is 50, and we would spew up if that was genuinely offered.

Surely its a F2 or we just don't trade him?

Ryan and change for whatever Cats get for Marshall