Rumour Bluemour Discussion XLI

[Aphrodite]

#BUMP from February


Re: 'Alleged' rumours resurfacing ...

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[ctwenty1]

Why even bother with other club boards?

shits and giggles

 

[Soapy V]

I disagree. This is a VFL level player and the Swans are trying to get out of their 4 year contract.

We should be steering clear.

The guy had 3 top 10 B&F finishes in years club finished Top 4 or made GFs. He is better than VFL and again IMO adds to our depth which is needed

 

[Carltonfc9]

Reckon we may get that but from an attidunal perspective as opposed to purely skill

It already happened this year with houston
Imagine how the playing group is going to react losing a contracted superstar mate

 

[MitchRobinson12]

Really hoping to squeeze another player out of the swans with Hayward and 2 firsts.

Not opposed to Florent but he can be done separately for next to nothing.

 

[Soapy V]

I'm sorry but haven't we heard this several times about recruits or departures? Yet nothing has really changed in 15 years.

Also, forgive me if I've missed it, but has it been said why exactly Charlie is hellbent on getting out of there? Is it simply that he and Voss don't get along (or whatever was reported)?

Not with Wright & Davies in charge and it has finally been identified as major issue

 

[Aphrodite]

Why even bother with other club boards?

Exactly.

Steer clear unless you want to lose your account.


Read. Only.

 

[xDQ82x]

Agree. Cant see Humphrey happening, even if Gold Coast relented they’d do a straight swap to Melbourne for Petracca and keep pick 7 & 8 (better than our 10 & 11).

What if Humphrey doesn't want Melbourne though.

 

[Coona Blues]

Many at club see HOF as a potential key forward

I have mentioned that a couple of times. Absolutely has what it takes. Will be a generational defender, but may be just as good in attack.

 

[Zlatan]

Reality is the Charlie deal will have mixed opinions on whether we got “enough” to justify it, but to me it sounds like the club is doing all it can to ensure adequate compensation.

You have 2 suitors; Geelong and Sydney. Geelongs deal was rightly knocked back and without much room to manoeuvre, we’re left with Sydney.

2 first round picks and 2 players straight into our 23 is a good (not elite, not terrible) result. Also puts us in a strong position for Walker.

We all saw how crap Charlie was this year and no doubt he would put in the exact same effort if he’s not traded. That’s not healthy for the club now or long term.

I’ve made my peace with the deal above.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

I disagree. This is a VFL level player and the Swans are trying to get out of their 4 year contract.

We should be steering clear.

He's had a poor season... mostly due to not being on the same page as his new coach...

Doesn't make him a shit footballer.

Not saying he's a world beater, but he is a solid addition and given he's not even close to the focal point of the deal, I don't get what the problem is here?

 

[Mondyboy]

I think anyone hoping for more than the two firsts, Hayward and Florent is going to be disappointed. Tea leaves screaming it’s that and they’re just waiting for Florent to agree.

Yep.

 

[Lukeblueboy]

What if Humphrey doesn't want Melbourne though.

 

[yibbida]

If Charlie goes, I'd say it's one. Who is the other??

TDK was in our top 6.

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Can’t wait for the day to open bf and not see Charlie Curnow

30

Charlie Curnow

Age

28

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.3

3star

K

9.7

4star

HB

3.6

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.3

5star

No current season stats available

D

10.8

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.8

4star

mentioned on the Carlton pages.

Bring on 2026

 

[Soapy V]

He's had a poor season... mostly due to not being on the same page as his new coach...

Doesn't make him a shit footballer.

Not saying he's a world beater, but he is a solid addition and given he's not even close to the focal point of the deal, I don't get what the problem is here?

We have previously gone hard for A graders. Hasn’t worked

 

[Osc1]

Can’t wait for the day to open bf and not see Charlie Curnow mentioned on the Carlton pages.

Bring on 2026

Who?

 

[Dramoth]

I look at it like this

Charlie crap has been bubbling along for 6 months or more
We are desperately trying to change culture

Our focus coming in was depth and a range of players. No need to go to draft with Jagga, Dean, Ison, Walker all coming in

If we walk away with Florent, Hayward, Pick 11 and F1 then that’s solid. Virtually secures Walker next year and we could easily trade up for a Top 4-5 pick. We now have solid mature depth to help our development and competition for spots

With much more SC room we have set ourselves up for next decade and got kids in before Tasmania stuff the draft

I am very happy if this is what happens

I'd like to see us throw Darcy Hogg a line as a mature aged rookie f/s. He looked great in the VFL this year and was a step above. I reckon he could make the step up in class to the AFL easily now he's matured a bit more. I'd be offering his little brother, Archer, Darcy's VFL slot.

 

[tragic]

We have previously gone hard for A graders. Hasn’t worked

This time we aren't getting an A grader but also losing one

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Many at club see HOF as a potential key forward

Sounds a bit like a Josh Weddle type…..
Can he play on a wing as well ?

 

[Juddrockz]

Feeling pretty flat, cant see how this trade makes us better. I can see how it instantly makes Sydney better hence why they are jumping at the deal. The old adage of key position players being worth more than flankers or mids rings pretty loudly. We're trading away a very good key forward for a couple of flankers and some picks that help us get a mid. I hope Nick Austin has a plan up his sleby

eve to get us another key forward from somewhere. We have gone from having built a team around a good spine to seeing a large part of it leave in a short space of time. The replacements seem to be either draftee kids or undersized swingmen. When Harry has a spell on the sidelines we're going to be in trouble.

Feeling pretty flat, cant see how this trade makes us better. I can see how it instantly makes Sydney better hence why they are jumping at the deal. The old adage of key position players being worth more than flankers or mids rings pretty loudly. We're trading away a very good key forward for a couple of flankers and some picks that help us get a mid. I hope Nick Austin has a plan up his sleeve to get us another key forward from somewhere. We have gone from having built a team around a good spine to seeing a large part of it leave in a short space of time. The replacements seem to be either draftee kids or undersized swingmen. When Harry has a spell on the sidelines we're going to be in trouble.

Harry will be double an triple teamed each game anyway so we have to find other means to kick goals.

 

[dangertroy]

I disagree. This is a VFL level player and the Swans are trying to get out of their 4 year contract.

We should be steering clear.

A VFL level player that’s somehow played 184 games of AFL including 2 grand finals…

 

[yibbida]

Charlie is going to be a problem next year

He will be. He will kick 10 in both games against us.

Meanwhile Florent will be earning 6/9th of his salary playing VFL and Hayward is kicking 1 goal 2 behinds per game.

 

[Blue By Blood]

Like Hayward a lot and I think he will offer our forward line a lot but it's a risk grabbing him without being able to do a medical since he's in Brazil on holiday.

Still holding out hope we can get McInerney in that trade package. Would really rejuvenate our wings with both him and Chesser.

Florent, if we want him should be a separate deal since he fell out of favour at the Swans and has 4 years to run on his contact at decent money. They want him off their books. Token pick.

Future 3rd for Buku is bang on fair. Dogs expecting more for a guy who is not in their best 22 and openly declaring they want to keep him for depth purposes.. madness. Wanting to get a pick upgrade on a first round pick for a guy not in the their best 22 is equally laughable. I can understand them trying but damn, sometimes sanity has to prevail. If it was a best 22 player you dig your heels in that's fine, but when it's for more opportunity in a different role (ala like Kennedy last year) you just get it done on the cheap.

 

[Carltonfc9]

We have previously gone hard for A graders. Hasn’t worked

It did work we played in a prelim, only thing that didn't work was sos left Austin with a F****d salary cap and a 4 year gap of failed first round and 2 round draft picks

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Who?

Perfect