Rumour Bluemour Discussion XLI

[Aphrodite]

#BUMP from February


Re: 'Alleged' rumours resurfacing ...

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There is no need to further speculate. What will be will be.

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Simply put, don't be a dick.

Thanks all!

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

You won't last long around here with the attitude and constantly hanging crap on everyone and everything, just a friendly warning.

Jaggabagga just upset his client Charlie isnt going to Geelong after all his hard work since May, trying to get him there.

 

[charred_fate]

I'm coming around to O'Keeffe taking on a key forward role. Has the athleticism, body work and the hands for it. Hope he sorts out his kicking and hamstrings.

I'm so glad we are finally tackling our forward deficiencies issue I've been going on about the last 3 seasons. Ainsworth is a great get for us and I am all onboard with Hayward.

Wright is going to be really good for us. All of a sudden these things I have been mentioning for years, lack of pace, lack of run, lack of genuine forwards, lack of pace in the middle. Finally seems to be a focus.

Recruiting players is not all about the recruiting team. A recruiting team without good direction goes into draft and trade period blind.

I've criticised Voss and the coaching team for not giving our recruiters more direction. For example lack of pace, lack of genuine forwards, lack of good kicks. The coach should be directing the recruiters so that we bring in players with these traits and I feel that the direction has been poor. All of a sudden it looks on the money.

We have taken a lot of players in the Voss era who we would not have even considered with our current direction. Wright and Davies are making an impression and their direction is giving me a lot of relief.

The rumours of who we have looked at and are trying to get all fits into this. Hayward and Ainsworth really excite me as they are genuine forwards, smaller forwards who crumb but also have a really strong marking game so when we are moving the ball forward they aren't sitting back waiting for the ball to go to the talls, they are making moves and giving us really strong options.

Rumours suggesting we have enquired about Humphrey, another genuine forward and a small forward with a strong overhead game. We are targeting the types we should have been for the last 3 or 4 years. Butters, the perfect target for us, a quick agile onballer to pair with Walsh. Carlton probably go into top 4 contention with a player like that if Walsh also stays fit.

Just on that, Walsh needs a partner like that, a quick dynamic mid equal to him. Stop saying Smith because that is some time away, same with Walker. Do this and Walsh doesn't get targeted as much, his body stays in better shape and his game becomes more damaging. More forward run from him. It also takes away a strategy teams use against us which is all about getting the ball out in space which is an easy kill for quicker opposition teams, Adelaide for example.

Curnow's trade can fix this team, I am sure of it, we just need to do this really well.

I rate HOKball as well… coming into his fourth season so fair chance he’ll start producing if his hammies hold up.

Reckon he’s going to be a very effective tall forward for us - strong, physical (which we’ve lacked in our key forwards (esp H) for too long), bit of speed and unlikely to get beaten in marking contests too often.

I’m excited to see him take on more of a role. If not for his draft position, reckon there would be a fair bit more excitement about him too.

 

[Sam The Doc]

Should we expect to get a decent player with their first round ?

 

[Rosscoe 17]

Feels like we’ve been saying that for 20 years

I haven’t…

 

[tragic]

What if Humphrey doesn't want Melbourne though.

I hope this means what I think it means...

 

[gab213]

This feels different to the last 20+ years.

It's very different. Every time I hear Wright and Davies speak, it gives me confidence in the direction that we are moving in.
It's not just about building a good list, it feels like an overhaul of the Club itself, a well needed one.

 

[2ndeffort]

Are you comparing Haywood/Florent to those players?

Which games? I only recall him briefly drifting forward in the VFL. Otherwise he played in the backline all year.

Sorry, confusing him for Hudson O' Keefe who did look like a lost Ruckman up forward.

 

[The Bighouse]

Clocked up 100hrs of trade talk and radio.. CPD points attained and officially a trainee List Manager Cadet.

 

[Sam The Doc]

I think this means what I think it means...

Tricky if he keeps meeting them though

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

Doubt Gov stays

News gets better

 

[Lukeblueboy]

I think this means what I think it means...

What are u thinking?

 

[Rosscoe 17]

It's very different. Every time I hear Wright and Davies speak, it gives me confidence in the direction that we are moving in.
It's not just about building a good list, it feels like an overhaul of the Club itself, a well needed one.

A balanced list..not losing or chasing superstars

 

[xDQ82x]

I think this means what I think it means...

Haha no, I was just replying to a comment.

I have no news on this one.

 

[SurreyBlue]

Realistically we are trading one player for TWO first round picks (one will help secure No1 Pick in Walker). We will add 2 x best 23 players from a successful club that are in their prime. The way they can help our youth grow is massive

Not to mention SC room for the future. This is as much about the future as the now

We are moving on a 29 year old that doesn't want to be here and tbh is a distraction.

Sometimes I think people's expectations is way too high. I think it's a good deal and for many reasons

Fair enough. Having to sell Charlie to assist in drafting a FS, is not something that I would put as a positive.
I just feel Charlie is worth more than 2 depth players, half a father son and a mid-round 1 pick in a poor draft.
Just my 2 cents.

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

The deal will be announced once the AFL & Channel 7 give approval…..

Its funny because its true.

 

[The Bighouse]

I rate HOKball as well… coming into his fourth season so fair chance he’ll start producing if his hammies hold up.

Reckon he’s going to be a very effective tall forward for us - strong, physical (which we’ve lacked in our key forwards (esp H) for too long), bit of speed and unlikely to get beaten in marking contests too often.

I’m excited to see him take on more of a role. If not for his draft position, reckon there would be a fair bit more excitement about him too.

Please do not bring that HOKball shit to the CFC. TY!

 

[katmanblue]

I'm fine with Florent 'the player', it's the reported 4 years on good money that I'm not wild about.

How about we ask for Datolli in exchange?

Perhaps we add a year and smooth out the payments?

 

[Soapy V]

Fair enough. Having to sell Charlie to assist in drafting a FS, is not something that I would put as a positive.
I just feel Charlie is worth more than 2 depth players, half a father son and a mid-round 1 pick in a poor draft.

Wait to see how it all plays out SB. Pick 11 could easily be packaged up to get Pick 3 or 4?

Walker is a genuine Pick 1 and without another F1 we won't get him

Florent and Hayward are best 23 in a side that is better than ours. We have great youth, we just lack depth

and this is if it happens?

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

Realistically we are trading one player for TWO first round picks (one will help secure No1 Pick in Walker). We will add 2 x best 23 players from a successful club that are in their prime. The way they can help our youth grow is massive

Not to mention SC room for the future. This is as much about the future as the now

We are moving on a 29 year old that doesn't want to be here and tbh is a distraction.

Sometimes I think people's expectations is way too high. I think it's a good deal and for many reasons

Wouldn't surprise me if Hayward's and Florent's combined contract exceeded Charlie's current front ended one.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

You can put the house on it.
if we let curnow go and dont bring in a player that gets the playing group excited for the future the club is going to Have more problems then the supporters being upset

This is one occasion where the supporters are being short-sighted and entitled. Our salary cap blew out because we gave too much to too few. We still have 4 million dollar players. How many do other clubs have? Spread the talent across the team, not have 6 elites and a whole lot of C graders. Haven't we learned our lesson?

 

[kreuze_missile]

Realistically we are trading one player for TWO first round picks (one will help secure No1 Pick in Walker). We will add 2 x best 23 players from a successful club that are in their prime.

Are Sydney really a successful club or just enjoying the fruits of their next generation academy?

Hayward is aruably not even in our best 10 players. Florent might not even be in our best 23.

And their draft picks? Not all first rounders are equal.

What's Sydney's Pick 11 get pushed back to this year after the academy bids? 16? 18?

Same question next year - they improve a bit and it might not even be in the top 20.

 

[The Bighouse]

Perhaps we add a year and smooth out the payments?

Reduce the tenure and the remuneration more like it.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Fair enough. Having to sell Charlie to assist in drafting a FS, is not something that I would put as a positive.
I just feel Charlie is worth more than 2 depth players, half a father son and a mid-round 1 pick in a poor draft.
Just my 2 cents.

We were going to have to sell someone since the AFL warned of the changes. Better to sell a 28 year old whose heart is no longer with us.

 

[DirtyLeeds]

Deal is done. No way Charlie is in Sydney today without it being sorted.

Remember Brayshaw and "
Old Mate' toured Princes Park back in the Crazy Vossy Brissy days.... (might have been Richelle?)

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

Perhaps we add a year and smooth out the payments?

5 years for an out of favour Sydney player might be risky.(or unpopular with new team mates)?