List Mgmt. 2025 Trade & List Management Thread - Part II [Spargo ✅ Maley->Adelaide✅]

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Key Dates

Spoiler: Draft Order

Spoiler: FA Moves/Trades

Player/Picks​	Original Team​	Receiving Team​	FA /Trade?​	Compo​
Tom De Koning	Carlton	St Kilda	RFA	Round One selection (currently #10)
Jack Silvagni	Carlton	St Kilda	UFA	End of First Round selection (currently #22)
Jacob Wehr	GWS	Port Adelaide	UFA	No Compo
Sam Draper	Essendon	Brisbane	UFA	End of First Round selection (currently #21)
Charlie Spargo	Melbourne	North Melbourne	UFA	End of Round Two selection (currently pick #42)
James Worpel	Hawthorn	Geelong	RFA	End of Round Two selection (currently #43)
Liam Reidy	Fremantle	Carlton	Trade	CARL:Liam Reidy,R3(54),R4 (72) FRE: R3(51), R4(69)
Malcolm Rosas Jnr	Gold Coast	Sydney	Trade	GC: R3(52), R4(70) SYD: Malcolm Rosas Jnr, R3(63)
Sam Flanders	Gold Coast	St Kilda	Trade	GC: R1(7) STK: Sam Flanders
Judd McVee	Melbourne	Fremantle	Trade	MELB: R1(23) FRE: Judd McVee
Brandon Starcevich	Brisbane	West Coast	Trade	WC: Brandon Starcevich 4 Brandon Starcevich Age 26 Ht 188cm Wt 90kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 9.2 2star K 6.5 3star HB 2.6 2star M 2.8 3star T 2.0 4star MG 185.3 3star D 9.5 2star K 7.3 3star HB 2.3 2star M 3.6 4star T 2.1 3star MG 187.9 3star D 8.6 3star K 5.4 2star HB 3.2 3star M 1.4 2star T 1.8 4star MG 181.2 3star , R1(12), R2(33), R3(52) BRIS: R1(16) R1(22),R3(44),R3(50) FRE: R1(19), R2(23),R3(46)
Oscar Allen	West Coast	Brisbane	RFA	Round one selection (currently #2)
Liam Ryan	West Coast	St Kilda	Trade	WC: 2026 R2 Pick(Tied to STK) STK: Liam Ryan 1 Liam Ryan Age 29 Ht 181cm Wt 76kg Pos. Fwd Career Season Last 5 D 11.3 3star K 8.6 3star HB 2.7 2star M 3.0 3star T 2.0 4star G 1.3 5star D 9.9 3star K 8.0 3star HB 1.9 1star M 3.3 3star T 1.6 3star G 1.3 5star D 11.4 3star K 9.0 4star HB 2.4 3star M 3.8 4star T 1.8 4star G 1.6 5star , 2027 R3 Pick(tied to WCE)
Max Heath	St Kilda	Melbourne	Trade	STK: 2027 R4 Pick(tied to Melb) MEL: Max Heath
Brody Mihocek	Collingwood	Melbourne	Trade	MEL: Brody Mihocek 28 Brody Mihocek Age 32 Ht 192cm Wt 99kg Pos. Fwd Career Season Last 5 D 11.9 3star K 8.2 3star HB 3.7 3star M 5.3 5star T 2.0 4star G 1.6 5star D 8.4 2star K 6.3 3star HB 2.1 2star M 4.3 4star T 1.9 3star G 1.7 5star D 10.2 3star K 6.4 3star HB 3.8 3star M 4.6 5star T 1.8 4star G 1.6 5star , R4(71) COL: R3(61), 2026 R3 selection (tied to Melbourne)
Ben Ainsworth	Gold Coast	Carlton	Trade	CARL: Ben Ainsworth 12 Ben Ainsworth Age 27 Ht 178cm Wt 77kg Pos. Fwd Career Season Last 5 D 14.1 4star K 8.1 3star HB 6.1 4star M 3.5 4star T 2.7 4star G 0.7 4star D 12.8 3star K 8.3 3star HB 4.5 3star M 4.0 4star T 2.3 3star G 1.0 4star D 13.6 4star K 6.8 3star HB 6.8 5star M 3.8 4star T 3.4 5star G 0.6 3star GC: R2(29) via Port
Corey Durdin	Carlton	Port Adelaide	Trade	PORT: Corey Durdin, 2026 R2(tied to Carlton) CARL: R4(67)(via Port)
Campbell Chesser	West Coast	Carlton	Trade	WC: R2(41) CARL: Campbell Chesser
Tylar Young	Richmond	West Coast	Trade	WC: Tylar Young RIC: R2(38)
Pick Swap	GWS	Western Bulldogs	Trade	WB: R1(14) & R2(37) GWS: R1(12)
Will Brodie	Fremantle	Port Adelaide	Trade	PORT: Will Brodie 23 Will Brodie Age 27 Ht 190cm Wt 89kg Pos. Mid Career Season Last 5 D 19.0 5star K 8.2 3star HB 10.8 5star M 3.1 3star T 4.9 5star CL 4.1 5star D 14.0 3star K 4.0 1star HB 10.0 5star M 3.0 3star T 1.0 2star CL 3.0 4star D 13.8 4star K 7.4 3star HB 6.4 4star M 3.2 4star T 5.4 5star CL 2.8 5star FRE: R6(103)
Pick Swap	Collingwood	Brisbane	Trade	COL: R3 (45,56) BRIS: R3(59), 2026 R3 Pick(Tied to Melbourne)
Connor Budarick	Gold Coast	Western Bulldogs	Trade	WB: Connor Budarick 19 Connor Budarick Age 24 Ht 175cm Wt 75kg Pos. D/M Career Season Last 5 D 10.6 3star K 6.8 3star HB 3.9 3star M 2.9 3star T 1.5 3star MG 171.3 3star D 10.6 3star K 6.8 3star HB 3.9 3star M 2.9 3star T 1.5 2star MG 171.3 3star D 10.6 3star K 6.8 3star HB 3.8 3star M 2.6 3star T 2.0 4star MG 153.0 3star , R4 (70) GC: R2(37)
Jayden Laverde	Essendon	GWS	DFA	No Compo
Brayden Fiorini	Gold Coast	Essendon	Trade	ESS: Brayden Fiorini 8 Brayden Fiorini Age 28 Ht 187cm Wt 82kg Pos. Mid Career Season Last 5 D 22.9 5star K 13.9 5star HB 9.1 5star M 4.7 4star T 4.0 5star CL 2.9 4star D 16.3 4star K 11.0 4star HB 5.3 3star M 4.0 4star T 1.7 3star CL 0.7 3star D 21.2 5star K 10.2 4star HB 11.0 5star M 4.6 5star T 4.2 5star CL 3.2 5star GC: 2026 R3 pick (tied to Essendon)
Ollie Florent	Sydney	Carlton	Trade	SYD: 2026 R3 (tied to Carl) CARL: Ollie Florent
Changkuoth Jiath	Hawthorn	Melbourne	Trade	MEL:Changkuoth Jiath 14 Changkuoth Jiath Age 26 Ht 185cm Wt 78kg Pos. D/M Career Season Last 5 D 14.5 4star K 5.0 2star HB 9.5 5star M 3.5 4star T 2.5 4star MG 91.0 1star No current season stats available D 14.5 4star K 5.0 2star HB 9.5 5star M 3.5 4star T 2.5 4star MG 91.0 2star HAW: R3 (42), 2026 R4 (tied to Melb)
Jai Serong	Hawthorn	Sydney	Trade	SYD: Jai Serong, 2026 R4(Tied to Hawthorn HAW: 2026 R3 pick(tied to Syd)
Pick Swap	Hawthorn	Carlton	Trade	CARL: R1(9), R2(31), R2(42), R3(43) HAW: R1(10), R1 (22)
Finnbar Maley	North Melbourne	Adelaide	Trade	NTH: R3(57), 2026 R4(tied to Adelaide) ADE: Finnbar Maley, R4(64)
Jamarra Ugle-Hagan	Western Bulldogs	Gold Coast	Trade	GC: Jamarra Ugle-Hagan WB: R6(74)
Jack Buller	Sydney	Collingwood	Trade	COLL: Jack Buller , 2026 F4 (tied to Syd) SYD: 2026 R3(tied to Coll)
Jack Steele	St Kilda	Melbourne	Trade	MEL: Jack Steele 9 Jack Steele Age 29 Ht 187cm Wt 90kg Pos. Mid Career Season Last 5 D 20.9 5star K 8.7 3star HB 12.2 5star M 3.7 4star T 6.8 5star CL 3.6 5star D 21.3 5star K 10.0 4star HB 11.3 5star M 4.0 4star T 5.8 5star CL 4.6 5star D 16.8 4star K 5.0 2star HB 11.8 5star M 2.6 3star T 6.4 5star CL 3.6 5star STK: 2027 R3 Pick
Clayton Oliver	Melbourne	GWS	Trade	GWS: Clayton Oliver 10 Clayton Oliver Age 28 Ht 189cm Wt 88kg Pos. Mid Career Season Last 5 D 27.8 5star K 9.5 4star HB 18.4 5star M 3.2 3star T 6.3 5star CL 6.3 5star D 25.1 5star K 11.1 4star HB 14.0 5star M 3.6 4star T 5.6 5star CL 5.9 5star D 19.2 5star K 4.6 2star HB 14.6 5star M 2.0 3star T 4.4 5star CL 3.8 5star MEL: 2027 R3 Pick (tied to GWS)
Patrick Retschko	Geelong	Richmond	Trade	RICH: Patrick Retshcko GEEL: R6 (99)
Christian Petracca	Melbourne	Gold Coast	Trade	MEL: R1(7,8) 2026 R1(tied to GC), R2 (37), 2027 R3(tied to Gold Coast) GC: Christian Petracca 3 Christian Petracca Age 29 Ht 187cm Wt 94kg Pos. M/F Career Season Last 5 D 19.4 5star K 9.5 4star HB 9.8 5star M 3.5 4star T 3.0 5star CL 2.5 4star D 24.4 5star K 10.4 4star HB 14.0 5star M 3.5 3star T 3.6 4star CL 3.4 4star D 19.0 5star K 7.8 3star HB 11.2 5star M 3.0 3star T 3.8 5star CL 2.0 4star , R2 (24,28), 2026 R2 pick(tied to Melbourne)
Charlie Curnow	Carlton	Sydney	Trade	CARL: Will Hayward 19 Will Hayward Age 27 Ht 186cm Wt 83kg Pos. Fwd Career Season Last 5 D 10.6 3star K 6.6 3star HB 4.0 3star M 3.4 3star T 2.8 4star G 1.1 4star D 9.0 2star K 4.3 2star HB 4.7 3star M 2.7 3star T 2.7 4star G 0.7 4star D 9.4 3star K 6.2 3star HB 3.2 3star M 2.6 3star T 3.4 5star G 1.4 5star , R1, 2026 R1, 2027 R1(tied to Sydney) SYD: Charlie Curnow 35 Charlie Curnow Age 28 Ht 194cm Wt 94kg Pos. Fwd Career Season Last 5 D 13.3 3star K 9.7 4star HB 3.6 3star M 5.3 5star T 2.2 4star G 1.3 5star No current season stats available D 10.8 3star K 6.4 3star HB 4.4 4star M 3.2 4star T 1.6 4star G 0.8 4star . R2(31), (42), 2027 R2 pick(Tied to Carlton)

Zac Merrett - requests a trade to Hawthorn
Jy Simpkin

12

Jy Simpkin

Age

27

Ht

183cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.0

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

8.1

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

3.3

5star

CL

2.9

4star

D

20.6

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

9.6

5star

M

2.0

2star

T

3.5

4star

CL

5.5

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.4

4star

CL

0.2

2star

- Pies have registered interest in Jy
Rowan Marshall

19

Rowan Marshall

Age

30

Ht

201cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.4

4star

K

8.8

3star

HB

6.6

4star

CL

3.4

5star

HO

20.2

5star

D

12.9

3star

K

9.3

4star

HB

3.6

2star

CL

2.8

4star

HO

17.8

5star

D

10.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

4.8

4star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

7.8

5star

-  requested a trade to Geelong
Devon Robertson - requests a trade to West Coast
Callum Ah Chee

4

Callum Ah Chee

Age

28

Ht

182cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.8

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

5.9

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.5

3star

D

11.1

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

3.4

2star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.7

4star

G

0.1

3star

D

9.4

3star

K

4.4

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.8

4star

- requests a trade to Adelaide
Buku Khamis - requests a trade to Carlton
Wade Derksen - requests a trade to a Victorian Club

Spoiler: Media Interviews

Simpkin 'unlikely' to remain captain, North take 'strong' stance

North Melbourne footy boss Todd Viney reflects on Jy Simpkin's failed bid to leave the club and what comes next for the club's skipper

www.afl.com.au

Rawlings reviews Trade Period after Simpkin offer, Maley move

Head of football talent Brady Rawlings reviews the Roos' 2025 Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period

www.nmfc.com.au

EXPLAINER: All the details about Free Agency, Trade Period

Here's everything you need to know about the Trade Period, Free Agency and more

www.afl.com.au

 

[Hearts to hearts]

Imagine Brady had have pulled that one off!!! Imagine......

a) Would there still be the same level of irrational hatred for Rawlings?
b) Complaints from the nuffies about preferring Curnow over Finnbar Maley?
c) Complaints from the nuffies bemoaning how we didn't recruit a tall defender
d) Complaints from the nuffies over not having any 1st round picks, initially, for some time

Just checking, are you saying people are nuffies if they have any complaints? I’m more optimistic than many, but anyone who doesn’t have anything negative to say about North’s approach and execution is kind of delusional.

 

[pupstar]

Just checking, are you saying people are nuffies if they have any complaints? I’m more optimistic than many, but anyone who doesn’t have anything negative to say about North’s approach and execution is kind of delusional.

I'm one of the most optimistic posters on here but even i can see we need to do some things differently I'm certainly not all doom and gloom like some on here but like you say we need to change a few things to go forward and to improve in all aspects of the club. No problem with posters being critical of the club as long as it's a balanced both ways.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

Sorry, they said the same thing last year, are you drinking their kool aid again?

If they were doomsdaying, I'd probably be confident, as invariably the opposite happens under Viney and Clarko's whenever they open their mouth under this reign.

No, it just proves these guys need the keys taken off them, as they are under total pressure for their jobs. They know it's now or never and most of these mistakes wont be theirs to deal with anyway.

Are these guys ****ing for real?

We requested 2 x R1 picks for Simpkin,

So we were prepared to pay our North F1, North 2027 R1, Collingwoods 2026 R1 and Collingwoods 2027 R1 for Charlie Curnow who turns 29 in February?


And we actually formally offered this? So Sonja and the board gave the approval for this deal?!



Clarko, Viney and Snoz have so many examples now of simply not being up to it at this point. Complete dinosaurs.

That type of deal is what you should be offering for a Sam Darcy, Harley Reid or Nick Daicos, not a player with an injury history and about 75 games left in his career.

How on earth do they think we can afford to spend 4 x R1 picks on anybody other than someone who is going to be playing with us for a decade? If they think we are that close, they are so far off the mark.

On the list of things we don’t need, an aging Charlie Curnow is close to the top of the list.

Especially for what was rumoured to be offered.

Club is insane.

Yes, I know it didn’t happen, but the offer shows a lot.

The entire footy journo world reported Collingwoods offer to us for Jy included a future first... which was flat out refuted by the club in post-trade eon interviews.

I'd be hesitant to take the reporting of 4x 1sts at face value

 

[FlyHigh18]

On the list of things we don’t need, an aging Charlie Curnow is close to the top of the list.

Especially for what was rumoured to be offered.

Club is insane.

Yes, I know it didn’t happen, but the offer shows a lot.

 

[hilly]

Imagine Brady had have pulled that one off!!! Imagine......

a) Would there still be the same level of irrational hatred for Rawlings?
b) Complaints from the nuffies about preferring Curnow over Finnbar Maley?
c) Complaints from the nuffies bemoaning how we didn't recruit a tall defender
d) Complaints from the nuffies over not having any 1st round picks, initially, for some time

What's your opinion on the 11th hour bid for Curnow?

 

[Nylex]

Hope this is not true.
To trade our captain and 2 x first round picks for Charlie Curnow???
I’m not sure what Clarkson and Viney are up to, but it does not seem they have the best of intentions to assist the NM football club

 

[hilly]

View attachment 2459829

Would have seen us without R1 selections in each of 2025, 2026 and 2027. Do you think that's responsible given our current list?

 

[shimaburnsgrieg]

Hope this is not true.
To trade our captain and 2 x first round picks for Charlie Curnow???
I’m not sure what Clarkson and Viney are up to, but it does not seem they have the best of intentions to assist the NM football club

We all know what they are up to - they are in self preservation mode; looking for anyway to get out of the bottom 4 and willing to sacrifice our medium term future to do it.

 

[BlueandWhiteinmyBlood]

I really do hope there was a brain synapse that formulated half of that offer to one of the premier key defenders in the competition.

 

[King Hansen]

On the list of things we don’t need, an aging Charlie Curnow is close to the top of the list.

Especially for what was rumoured to be offered.

Club is insane.

Yes, I know it didn’t happen, but the offer shows a lot.

Probably the only thing I agree with you on.

 

[LB2Snake]

And here we all were thinking Brady was improving and not looking to burn our picks.

 

[Passmore]

Would've put the power of "Free Kick Curnow" to the ultimate test.

 

[Jimmy's Hot Dogs]

Could you imagine the look of pure terror in the umpire’s eyes on Good Friday.

 

[Themanbun]

And here we all were thinking Brady was improving and not looking to burn our picks.

Maybe oppo pity us at this point and save us from ourselves.

Having said that, appreciate having a crack at Curnow. Not sure I appreciate the rumoured offer.

 

[Mixed Results]

The Curnow deal would have been risk-free, well, at least for those making the decision.

Either it works out, and we fly up the ladder. Or it doesn't work out, and everyone involved in the decision is sacked, and it becomes the next group's problem. Genius list management from Clarko, Viney, and Rawlings.

 

[LB2Snake]

Maybe oppo pity us at this point and save us from ourselves.

Having said that, appreciate having a crack at Curnow. Not sure I appreciate the rumoured offer.

I don’t mind having a crack either. Those picks sound delusional though

 

[kool kangas]

What type of player should we look for with our picks #25 and #26 ..

 

[Passmore]

What type of player should we look for with our picks #25 and #26 ..

Good ones

 

[LB2Snake]

What type of player should we look for with our picks #25 and #26 ..

We’ve got sub 180cm, unaccountable and tiny kick covered, so let’s explore anything other than that.

 

[spicerFanClub]

What type of player should we look for with our picks #25 and #26 ..

Most of the KPPs are around that mark except Schubert and Dean. Wouldn't be surprised with 1x KPP and 1x someone with elite speed for Half back.

 

[Farthers]

Would've put the power of "Free Kick Curnow" to the ultimate test.

 

[shimaburnsgrieg]

And here we all were thinking Brady was improving and not looking to burn our picks.

I guess deep down we knew the cudo's going out to Brady for holding the line against the Pies were maybe a touch too early.

However none of us thought he was happy to make it a hat trick of top 5 picks for shits and giggles.

 

[chubbspeterson]

Would have seen us without R1 selections in each of 2025, 2026 and 2027. Do you think that's responsible given our current list?

Probably not given where the list is at, but I don't think it's as bad an offer as it seems.
It's not all that different from the deals offered from Swans (#11 and two F1's wasn't it?) and Cats with three R1's.
Sure a 2026 R1 could be pick 5-12 depending on how much it improved the team in year one.
A 2027 R1 from us and Pies could be anywhere between 10-20 (5th last has pick 10, finals teams in 20's).
If Pies get Simpkin, I don't think they finish bottom 5 in 2027 and we should be on the cusp or in finals.

Asking the question doesn't surprise me as the club would have pledged to players that signed on (LDU, X, Larkey, Zurhaar, Comben, PC, Sheez etc.) to push for a flag. However unlikely the scenario of Curnow coming to us, it shows that group that the club is willing to make moves to win before their careers are done.

It's worth noting the Demons had no R1 selections in 2016, 2017 and 2018 because they traded for Lever in 2017 and May in 2018. Big difference is the age of Lever (21 yo) and May (think he was mid 20's) though.
You could argue we have more young talent than what the Dees had when they traded for Lever with pick 10 and F1 and May with pick 6. They had drafted Gawn (2009) and Viney (2012) in R2, whilst Hogan (2012), Salem (2013), Petracca and Brayshaw (2014), Oliver (2015) were the high end picks they amassed before Lever and May came.
The key thing was they drafted Spargo, Fritsch and Petty in 2017 in R2/R3, Sparrow and Jordon in R2 (2018).
Then got back into R1 with Jackson and Pickett, then Rivers in R2 in 2019. Drafted Bowey in R2 and added Brown 2020.
I don't think high end picks are the panacea in terms of building a flag team, but they do help turn games.

So whilst trading all that for a 28 year old is probably not the age we'd want to be targeting with that kind of deal, at some point to get a quality player, if they ever came to us, you are going to have to pay up big, especially if the draft is going to be seriously compromised every year with academy players and NGA kids.
Obviously most of the fans believe the flag team is built around that Sheezel core group and want to keep going to the draft. The problem with that is it doesn't mean you retain those young or older players if you keep losing.
Anyway, it's moot point, because Curnow was never going to a bottom four team, but the melts are good fun.

 

[SnowRoo]

After 5 years of gloom, I really feel a lot of people are stuck in the pick numbers is football success mindset.

Oh no pick 20 whatever on a guy who will play 23 games q years for 7 years at a high standard. But but we could have had a random chance on some 18 year old the phantom drafts said was like Judy.

So what we had a crack at one of the leagues best forwards, brilliant as far as I'm concerned. How many 1st round picks do we need?

Our players need to learn to win and expect to win, as supporters we need to get out of the feeder club draft picks equal success mindset.

Let's start winning football games.
Let's stress less about 1st round 2nd round, or bringing in dregs so we think change will save us.

We ARE building nicely, have some faith.

 

[SnowRoo]

What type of player should we look for with our picks #25 and #26 ..

To Dream:
Lindsay
Phillipou

Around maybe:
Ludowyke
Ah-Mu
O.Taylor
Curtain

Possible:
Onley
Byrne
Thredgold