Current General Crime Chat: disturbing killers, other crimes and miscellaneous stuff

[Krusty Crab]

This will be why bail seems to be a lot easier and we're seeing many commit serious violent crime while they're on bail, we're running out of room.

Rise in Victoria's prisoner numbers outpaces population growth

Victoria's prison population has surged by 62 per cent in the last 20 years as the number of accused held on remand triples.

www.abc.net.au

question is - are too many people being jailed for crimes, or are we jailing too many criminals? perhaps some laws need revision and punishment alternatives considered.

 

[Rob R]

question is - are too many people being jailed for crimes, or are we jailing too many criminals? perhaps some laws need revision and punishment alternatives considered.

Or do we need to strip out luxuries to make prisons much harsher and more of a deterrence (using saved money to fund more capacity and better rehab options) and punish much harder earlier as it is clear the softly softly Victorian approach has failed and created this problem.

 

[BFew]

Yikes

More than 70 Victorian court cases potentially affected amid investigation into police employee

Police spokesperson says forensic data is being reassessed in 77 ‘active court matters’ after August arrest

www.theguardian.com

Police alerting accused offenders and lawyers as hundreds of cases re-examined

Police have arrested a digital forensics officer and are investigating whether his work compromised hundreds of cases over nearly a decade including sexual offence and child abuse cases.

www.abc.net.au

'...
The ABC understands that police are now auditing the officer's work dating from June 2016 until August 2025.
The ABC understands the audit could affect more than 600 cases, including those allegedly involving child abuse and sexual offence material.
...
A letter sent to a party of a legal proceeding says the forensics officer's expertise involved "search, seizure and preservation of digital evidence", primarily through examining devices involved in crimes. "The devices relied upon will need to be re-extracted and analysed," the letter, which has been obtained, says.'
...'

 

[Krusty Crab]

Or do we need to strip out luxuries to make prisons much harsher and more of a deterrence (using saved money to fund more capacity and better rehab options) and punish much harder earlier as it is clear the softly softly Victorian approach has failed and created this problem.

personally i think a bit of both. cut the fat from prisons, however there also people in prisons that shouldnt be there, mentally ill people that should be getting medical help, or people with low level crimes that could be punished in other forms.

 

[Kurve]

Since October 27 2023, the police have dedicated 25,000 shifts to cover the protests.

 

[Lebbo73]

Our national broadcaster, the ABC, aired pedophiles openly discussing their sexual exploits with children.


https://www.confidentialdaily.com/r/3d882da0?m=9c444476-7fe2-4f37-856c-e850916983ae

"Earlier this week, Adams uploaded a 42-minute audio recording from a 1975 ABC Radio broadcast, buried for five decades, featuring a panel of self-described "pederasts" openly discussing their sexual exploits with children. Yes, you read that correctly.

These men weren’t just interviewed. They were given airtime to justify, rationalise, and normalise their abuse. The ABC provided confessed child abusers a national platform to defend their crimes under the guise of intellectual curiosity.

And now the ABC is doing everything it can to suppress it.

Back in 2023, Adams obtained a copy of the tape from the ABC archives. He paid $85 and signed a standard agreement limiting its use to private consumption. But something about that didn’t sit right.

Maybe it was the graphic nature of the content. Maybe it was the fact that ABC officials, when questioned by Parliament in 2018, claimed the recording didn’t exist. Or maybe it was the sheer moral obscenity of a national broadcaster once giving airtime to child predators under the guise of intellectual exploration.

So Adams did what the bureaucrats wouldn’t. He exposed it."

 

[Cataholic]

question is - are too many people being jailed for crimes, or are we jailing too many criminals? perhaps some laws need revision and punishment alternatives considered.

Agree with your last sentence.

The law needs to be revised so it clearly places the highest priority on the victim rather than an excuse for, and rehabilitation of, the criminal.

Imo.

 

[Butters and Pepper]

I remember a criminologist saying back in the 90s, jail should be predominantly for people who are a physical safety threat to the community, and additionally non-violent offenders (fraudsters, embezzlement etc) are best dealt with in other ways - large community service orders, home detention etc etc

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

I remember a criminologist saying back in the 90s, jail should be predominantly for people who are a physical safety threat to the community, and additionally non-violent offenders (fraudsters, embezzlement etc) are best dealt with in other ways - large community service orders, home detention etc etc

I wonder which group that woman who stabbed a stranger in Little Bourke St a couple of weeks ago fitted into. She was on bail for unrelated charges. It’s impossible to know in advance who is going to be dangerous until they do something like this. And with the amount of mental issues, drug use and homelessness these days, it’s extremely complex.

 

[Butters and Pepper]

I wonder which group that woman who stabbed a stranger in Little Bourke St a couple of weeks ago fitted into. She was on bail for unrelated charges. It’s impossible to know in advance who is going to be dangerous until they do something like this. And with the amount of mental issues, drug use and homelessness these days, it’s extremely complex.

It is complex, but it's probably a fair general approach to use where practical.

 

[Pamcake1]

Good to read a positive out of a very lousy negative.

After surviving an attack that shocked Australia, Lauren is being tested again

It has been 20 years since Lauren Huxley was brutally attacked in her home as a teen in a crime that shocked Australia. She has built a life no-one thought possible, but now her hard-won peace could be tested.

www.abc.net.au

 

[mrskafoops]

I GOT MARRIED YESTERDAY! It was the best wedding ever!

 

[Kurve]

I GOT MARRIED YESTERDAY! It was the best wedding ever!

Congratulations!

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

This is the crime thread, right?

 

[Bostonian]

This is the crime thread, right?

Well marriage is a scam so...

 

[mrskafoops]

I wanted to share the news with my favourite online friends!

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

I wanted to share the news with my favourite online friends!

It would be a crime not to congratulate you.

 

[Pamcake1]

I GOT MARRIED YESTERDAY! It was the best wedding ever!

Congratulations!

 

[sherb]

Good to read a positive out of a very lousy negative.

After surviving an attack that shocked Australia, Lauren is being tested again

It has been 20 years since Lauren Huxley was brutally attacked in her home as a teen in a crime that shocked Australia. She has built a life no-one thought possible, but now her hard-won peace could be tested.

www.abc.net.au

I remember that, what happened to that poor girl was horrific.

I saw the tail end of Australian Story this morning, I'll have to watch it in full when I get the chance.

Her recovery is nothing short of remarkable, it's a testament to the type of person she is among other things.

The fact that this pos is up for parole next year can only bring the trauma back to Lauren and her family, let's hope the system does the right thing and denies any application for parole.

 

[bomberclifford]

I GOT MARRIED YESTERDAY! It was the best wedding ever!

Technically a life sentence but you could be out in 10-15 years with good behaviour.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Technically a life sentence but you could be out in 10-15 years with good behaviour.

Appropriate user name of the first reactor to your post.

 

[Percel]

I GOT MARRIED YESTERDAY! It was the best wedding ever!

Outstanding, please murder someone at the ceremony

(Jk, congrats)

 

[PatsFitztrick]

The latest American horror story....

American teacher shot by 6yo student awarded millions in damages

The teacher was critically wounded when the boy shot her in front of a full classroom almost three years ago.

www.abc.net.au

 

[BFew]

Heartbreaking to read

‘The ward felt like a prison. What had I let them do?’: how my daughter was crushed by a health service meant to help her

Ruth was 14 years old and being treated for an eating disorder when she died after being detained under the Mental Health Act. She wasn’t allowed to see her family for more than a few hours a week. How did the system we trusted – and I worked for as a GP – fail us so tragically?

www.theguardian.com

 

[BFew]

Unmasked, the most prolific sex offender in British history

Catering officer Neville Husband led a reign of terror where he, systematically r*ped and abused hundreds of young men and boys at Medomsley Detention Centre in County Durham.

www.dailymail.co.uk