Review 2025 National Draft Thread | Dovaston #16 / Thredgold #26 / Mikunda #48

[chubbspeterson]

Zero Hanger November Power Rankings

 

[chubbspeterson]

Not sure of the handwringing over the pick we got for Maley, we still have it just in case a situation comes to include it in a trade but it was always nothing more than a token pick to get a guy we were going to delist to another club.

We don't still have it. We can only carry three picks into the draft. The pick swap window is closed.
West Coast weren't going to use 53, at least they shifted it for a F4. We didn't get anything for it.

 

[spicerFanClub]

Well we can't use 57 now. We can only take the three picks (25, 26, 46) into the draft with three list spots.
We had to trade it by Friday 7 Nov 5pm like the Eagles did with pick 53 for Dogs F4.
If we had delisted and intended to rookie someone two weeks ago, then we could have the four picks to live trade.
Either moving 57 for a F4 or delisting someone to live trade would have been good. We didn't do either.

Pock trading opens back up again for the 2 draft nights. Can do whatever in that. Bit of an odd extra period to trade picks the one last week, tends to be quite

 

[chubbspeterson]

Pock trading opens back up again for the 2 draft nights. Can do whatever in that. Bit of an odd extra period to trade picks the one last week, tends to be quite

Yeah but you can only trade 25, 26 & 46 as far as I'm aware, the picks equal to your open list spots.
If we weren't going to use 57, at least shift it for a F4. Maybe you use it, maybe you don't in the future.
I'll try and find the last time a trade was made at the start of the draft.

 

[spicerFanClub]

Yeah but you can only trade 25, 26 & 46 as far as I'm aware, the picks equal to your open list spots.
If we weren't going to use 57, at least shift it for a F4. Maybe you use it, maybe you don't in the future.
I'll try and find the last time a trade was made at the start of the draft.

Interesting. Not aware there's a rule for that but could be wrong. I thought the only rule was minimum 3 list changes. I thought the rule around only being able to have a draft hand equal to your open spots was proposed to combat pick hoarding but never enacted (because it would disadvantage gold coast mostly).

 

[Rooboys Rool]

Well, I think it’s perplexing because we had something of value and we’ve let it expire so it now has no value. We could have easily delisted a player with a commitment to redraft them - as many clubs have done - and taken pick 57 to the draft. It obviously doesn’t hold a lot of value, but at least we’d have some options. Now we have none.

perplexed just checking, did you like my post because you agreed with what I wrote, or just because you like that I used “perplexing” in it?

 

[perplexed]

This.

The other element to the exchange of (admittedly junk) picks is that it attaches some value to a player who's been a good soldier and a fan favourite. Shows some respect.

Not sure how it shows respect to trade someone for an asset you chuck in the bin.

But anyway, it is more the attitude that pisses me off. If we delist a player and push them back we can take an extra pick to the draft and live trade it for an F3 or similar. But we can't be arsed doing basic stuff. It isn't much of a loss, but next year when we might have a couple of bids to match, it could be useful. Why just chuck it away? And it isn't the first time we've done this, it seems to be standard operating procedure.

 

[perplexed]

perplexed just checking, did you like my post because you agreed with what I wrote, or just because you like that I used “perplexing” in it?

Both

 

[zoomba23]

So it seems like an ok draft in which to not have a top five pick. But an unideal draft in which to not have one between 6-20.

Least we got one criterion right, I spose.

Cheers Caleb

 

[The Filth Wizard]

We don't still have it. We can only carry three picks into the draft. The pick swap window is closed.
West Coast weren't going to use 53, at least they shifted it for a F4. We didn't get anything for it.

Pick swaps go live again on draft night.

 

[chubbspeterson]

Interesting. Not aware there's a rule for that but could be wrong. I thought the only rule was minimum 3 list changes. I thought the rule around only being able to have a draft hand equal to your open spots was proposed to combat pick hoarding but never enacted (because it would disadvantage gold coast mostly).

You might be right my friend. AFL rules say at least three senior list vacancies.
We probably just can't draft a player on the night, but might be able to live trade.
I know the AFL intends in 2026 to not allow teams to have more picks than list spots.

 

[Merlin007]

Not sure how it shows respect to trade someone for an asset you chuck in the bin.

But anyway, it is more the attitude that pisses me off. If we delist a player and push them back we can take an extra pick to the draft and live trade it for an F3 or similar. But we can't be arsed doing basic stuff. It isn't much of a loss, but next year when we might have a couple of bids to match, it could be useful. Why just chuck it away? And it isn't the first time we've done this, it seems to be standard operating procedure.

We also hold 82 and 100, and they will be passed in just as every club passes in late round picks every draft.

From everything that's written about this draft, if it gets to 50 it seems that will be about it, so whether its 57 or 64 is irrelevant.

we got a good kid to a new home.

end of.

 

[chubbspeterson]

We also hold 82 and 100, and they will be passed in just as every club passes in late round picks every draft.

From everything that's written about this draft, if it gets to 50 it seems that will be about it, so whether its 57 or 64 is irrelevant.

we got a good kid to a new home.

end of.

A late R3 has a bit more potential value than a R4 or R5 though.
I'm sure we'll make some sort of trade on draft night.

 

[chubbspeterson]

Pick swaps go live again on draft night.

Yes aware of that. Just thought you could've use more picks than spots.
But I suppose you just pass on 57 worst case if we can't trade up or shift it into the future.
I wonder why West Coast didn't wait then with 53.

 

[GS WARRIORS]

Yeah but you can only trade 25, 26 & 46 as far as I'm aware, the picks equal to your open list spots.
If we weren't going to use 57, at least shift it for a F4. Maybe you use it, maybe you don't in the future.
I'll try and find the last time a trade was made at the start of the draft.

This is correct and we don't have access to use or trade 57.

Except (and this is from memory) I believe if we trade out one of 25, 26 & 46 or trade two of these for one pick, 57 then gets activated instead of having the last pick of the draft. Then we can use it or trade it.

 

[perplexed]

We also hold 82 and 100, and they will be passed in just as every club passes in late round picks every draft.

From everything that's written about this draft, if it gets to 50 it seems that will be about it, so whether its 57 or 64 is irrelevant.

we got a good kid to a new home.

end of.

But we don't hold those picks, we only have 3 picks now. We could have had another that we weren't going to use, but could have got something for, instead we tossed it. In the end it is far more important who we select than having an extra late pick to trade. But that doesn't justify the half-arsed job our list managers have done here, again.

 

[pupstar]

We also hold 82 and 100, and they will be passed in just as every club passes in late round picks every draft.

From everything that's written about this draft, if it gets to 50 it seems that will be about it, so whether its 57 or 64 is irrelevant.

we got a good kid to a new home.

end of.

This is my view as well We keep being told it's a weak draft and here we are worrying about pick 57 and I'm not worried about using it for future 2026 picks points either. As long as we get our 3 picks right that will do me.

 

[North1411]

We also hold 82 and 100, and they will be passed in just as every club passes in late round picks every draft.

From everything that's written about this draft, if it gets to 50 it seems that will be about it, so whether its 57 or 64 is irrelevant.

we got a good kid to a new home.

end of.

But but but Brady....

 

[The Filth Wizard]

Yes aware of that. Just thought you could've use more picks than spots.
But I suppose you just pass on 57 worst case if we can't trade up or shift it into the future.
I wonder why West Coast didn't wait then with 53.

Yeah, I reckon there might be a misconception because the point matching thing has been so prevalent recently but even the AFL website shows our "picks" into the 100's, you just pass when you are finished.

At that, probably the absolute best the Maley pick can get us is a minor move up the ladder for our third pick (if it comes into to draft point calculations) but the odds are on it just being a courtesy to Finnbar.

 

[perplexed]

This is correct and we don't have access to use or trade 57.

Except (and this is from memory) I believe if we trade out one of 25, 26 & 46 or trade two of these for one pick, 57 then gets activated instead of having the last pick of the draft. Then we can use it or trade it.

Unless they've changed things again, we wouldn't get 57 back, we'd get a pick at the back of the draft.

 

[koshari]

You would think we have came off a 3peat the picks we are taking into this years draft. But sadly we have been anchored bottom 3 for years.... Sigh

 

[koshari]

This is my view as well We keep being told it's a weak draft and here we are worrying about pick 57 and I'm not worried about using it for future 2026 picks points either. As long as we get our 3 picks right that will do me.

More chance of me being the next pope than us nailing our picks

 

[shinboner magic]

57 wasn’t with us for long but it lived a full life - had dreams but the were quashed by the ppl in the big house.

I’ll play the running double with 5 and 7 in memory of what could of been

 

[DrZaius]

Because we're so good huh?

Best available. So what if he turns out to be a gun?

We can't just have all our eggs in the Spargo basket.

Because best available has worked out swimmingly for our list build the last 5 years

 

[JGreezy]

Because we're so good huh?

Best available. So what if he turns out to be a gun?

We can't just have all our eggs in the Spargo basket.

You go best available in the top 5-10 picks. You have to work on your list balance, after that.

The difference between the talent level at pick 20-30 is not big enough, nor has enough certainty, to favour best available over fit.

And it's not just Spargo. It's Sheezel, Parker, Curtis, Duursma, Zurhaar, Konstanty, Hansen, Powell, Simpkin, Wardlaw, LDU, McKercher, FOS etc.