Jacinta Allan - Leading a zombie government

[Satan]

Violent thugs have been treated to a trip to Gold Coast theme parks as part of their rehabilitation.
The Herald Sun understands at least two serious youth offenders have been flown to Queensland to visit theme parks there with the outings allowed under varied Community Correction Orders signed off on by courts.

The boys, aged in their teens, are understood to have been convicted of home invasions and car jackings.

When questioned about the trips by the Herald Sun, Victorian Premier Jacinta Allan said the decision to greenlight the outings had not been made by her government.

“I want to be clear that in this matter that is being reported today, that there has been advise that there has been no youth justice officials involved in and accompanying these young people,” Ms Allan said on Monday.

“And given that this was a decision that has been taken through the corrections process, I’m not in a position to comment in the circumstances that led to this decision.”

It is understood, however, that Victoria’s Department of Justice and Community Safety was aware of the decision.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/violent-youth-offenders-treated-to-gold-coast-theme-park-trip-as-part-of-rehabilitation-program/news-story/dce154b6afb09816f4a075ea489d6955?campaignType=external&campaignChannel=syndication&campaignName=ncacont&campaignContent=&campaignSource=herald_sun&campaignPlacement=edm&utm_source=HeraldSun&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Editorial&utm_content=HS_LATESTNEWS_PM-CUR_01&net_sub_id=284941358&type=curated_collection&position=4

where is wobbies world now?

 

[Sttew]

Violent thugs have been treated to a trip to Gold Coast theme parks as part of their rehabilitation.
The Herald Sun understands at least two serious youth offenders have been flown to Queensland to visit theme parks there with the outings allowed under varied Community Correction Orders signed off on by courts.

The boys, aged in their teens, are understood to have been convicted of home invasions and car jackings.

When questioned about the trips by the Herald Sun, Victorian Premier Jacinta Allan said the decision to greenlight the outings had not been made by her government.

“I want to be clear that in this matter that is being reported today, that there has been advise that there has been no youth justice officials involved in and accompanying these young people,” Ms Allan said on Monday.

“And given that this was a decision that has been taken through the corrections process, I’m not in a position to comment in the circumstances that led to this decision.”

It is understood, however, that Victoria’s Department of Justice and Community Safety was aware of the decision.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/violent-youth-offenders-treated-to-gold-coast-theme-park-trip-as-part-of-rehabilitation-program/news-story/dce154b6afb09816f4a075ea489d6955?campaignType=external&campaignChannel=syndication&campaignName=ncacont&campaignContent=&campaignSource=herald_sun&campaignPlacement=edm&utm_source=HeraldSun&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Editorial&utm_content=HS_LATESTNEWS_PM-CUR_01&net_sub_id=284941358&type=curated_collection&position=4

where is wobbies world now?

Supposedly paid for by NDIS, the fund that keeps giving

 

[Saint]

Supposedly paid for by NDIS, the fund that keeps giving

This is the underlying real issue with these kids. They've got problems. They've got bad parents.

The cure is prevention and treating them well, perhaps even better than non-criminal kids, and it is a horrendous look and the Herald Sun and Sky will jump on it.

To the point that it's one story about scary criminal kids. The next story is about how you shouldn't be nice to these kids and them going to the Gold Coast (like most other kids) is a bad thing.

 

[hawkman]

And the Libs are imploding again

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Altho it won't be operating at peak capacity till Feb from what I've read.

Correct. 30th Nov to 31st Jan is extra trains between 10-3 on weekdays and 10-7 weekends.

Feb 1 the full timetable starts.

I'm excited for the metro to open in it's full form, It's just the oh they're opening it a week early, while it's on a short modified time table over 2 months as a typical PR exercise and while I know all sides do it, there's few things I hate in politics more than those.

Not running the full timetable at the start is common. Elizabeth Line in London had a few months of a disjointed timetable before the full timetable ran

 

[Saint]

And the Libs are imploding again

Battin never even tried to complain about the Metro project.

Why would you overthrow him when two big mega projects are about to open and Allan does victory drive-throughs for weeks or months?

 

[Cleavy]

Violent thugs have been treated to a trip to Gold Coast theme parks as part of their rehabilitation.
The Herald Sun understands at least two serious youth offenders have been flown to Queensland to visit theme parks there with the outings allowed under varied Community Correction Orders signed off on by courts.

The boys, aged in their teens, are understood to have been convicted of home invasions and car jackings.

When questioned about the trips by the Herald Sun, Victorian Premier Jacinta Allan said the decision to greenlight the outings had not been made by her government.

“I want to be clear that in this matter that is being reported today, that there has been advise that there has been no youth justice officials involved in and accompanying these young people,” Ms Allan said on Monday.

“And given that this was a decision that has been taken through the corrections process, I’m not in a position to comment in the circumstances that led to this decision.”

It is understood, however, that Victoria’s Department of Justice and Community Safety was aware of the decision.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/violent-youth-offenders-treated-to-gold-coast-theme-park-trip-as-part-of-rehabilitation-program/news-story/dce154b6afb09816f4a075ea489d6955?campaignType=external&campaignChannel=syndication&campaignName=ncacont&campaignContent=&campaignSource=herald_sun&campaignPlacement=edm&utm_source=HeraldSun&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Editorial&utm_content=HS_LATESTNEWS_PM-CUR_01&net_sub_id=284941358&type=curated_collection&position=4

where is wobbies world now?

ironically, the land where it used to be is now a police station

 

[Cleavy]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/first-peoples-assembly-opposes-premiers-hard-line-youth-crime-laws-in-first-test-of-treaty/news-story/68cee81ee65a5710d3fced15b1c1680e?amp

so I guess that's another watered down law in the making.

 

[RedOrWhite]

Correct. 30th Nov to 31st Jan is extra trains between 10-3 on weekdays and 10-7 weekends.

Feb 1 the full timetable starts.


Not running the full timetable at the start is common. Elizabeth Line in London had a few months of a disjointed timetable before the full timetable ran

I don't mind if they do a reduced timetable at the start, just dont like the Premier using it as a political tool. Leave that for when it's fully operational.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

I don't mind if they do a reduced timetable at the start, just dont like the Premier using it as a political tool. Leave that for when it's fully operational.

It's carrying passengers so for the sake of it it's open.

 

[RedOrWhite]

It's carrying passengers so for the sake of it it's open.

At a far reduced capacity. This is why I and so many hate politics.

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

Brad Battin faces spill after group of Victorian Liberal MPs say they have lost confidence in his leadership

Sources say shadow treasurer Jess Wilson has received enough support to test leadership of the party a year out from state poll

www.theguardian.com

No way he loses the leadership right?

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

Brad Battin faces spill after group of Victorian Liberal MPs say they have lost confidence in his leadership

Sources say shadow treasurer Jess Wilson has received enough support to test leadership of the party a year out from state poll

www.theguardian.com

No way he loses the leadership right?

Seems inevitable to me, whether it's today or it takes two goes. The big consideration for me is how much time those loyal to him will now have to white ant Wilson before they're even in election mode. You honestly couldn't make it up. Plenty of ammunition built up against the incumbents over more than a decade in office, but on the days when the Government is announcing they're weeks away from opening two of its major Big Build projects, the Libs feel like it's a good time for a spill. Again.

The timing alone indicates they have little interest and not much of a plan to win anything more the petty, personal squabbles within the party.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

At a far reduced capacity. This is why I and so many hate politics.

As I said no different to other places.
Theres nothing unusual about it.

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

At a far reduced capacity. This is why I and so many hate politics.

Every independent expert I've read has welcomed the opening approach as a common sense way to introduce this to the existing network.

Depends on whether you think Jacqui Felgate or Graham Currie is a better equipped expert to comment on this sort of strategy I suppose.

 

[nut]

Every independent expert I've read has welcomed the opening approach as a common sense way to introduce this to the existing network.

Depends on whether you think Jacqui Felgate or Graham Currie is a better equipped expert to comment on this sort of strategy I suppose.

Are they still telling everyone the trains dont fit?

 

[Sttew]

Battin never even tried to complain about the Metro project.

Why would you overthrow him when two big mega projects are about to open and Allan does victory drive-throughs for weeks or months?

Because Wilson will focus sharply on the things that the Allan government have let slip, other than crime which looks to have been neutralised.

 

[Saint]

Because Wilson will focus sharply on the things that the Allan government have let slip, other than crime which looks to have been neutralised.

So the Libs are going to tell us that they'll fix health, education and the budget at the same time again?

The cookers and boomers are still going to be fear-mongering about crime, don't worry.

I'm still not sure what the criticism of Battin is. He wasn't loud enough or getting cut-through a year before an election when absolutely nobody is thinking about the state election?

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

So the Libs are going to tell us that they'll fix health, education and the budget at the same time again?

The cookers and boomers are still going to be fear-mongering about crime, don't worry.

I'm still not sure what the criticism of Battin is. He wasn't loud enough or getting cut-through a year before an election when absolutely nobody is thinking about the state election?

He'd never really given an impression one way or another on whether his leadership was having an impact. I can't recall him having any terrible gaffes or scandals, which reeks of a personality clash to me, rather than whether he was the best person to lead. Which is pretty much exactly what you'd expect from the Vic Libs. I'm sure they'll give Jess Wilson a clear run now: a lone voice of dissent on the Voice Referendum.

Edit: incoorect about her support for Treaty

 

[The Punter]

He'd never really given an impression one way or another on whether his leadership was having an impact. I can't recall him having any terrible gaffes or scandals, which reeks of a personality clash to me, rather than whether he was the best person to lead. Which is pretty much exactly what you'd expect from the Vic Libs. I'm sure they'll give Jess Wilson a clear run now: a lone voice of dissent on the Voice Referendum and a supporter of Treaty.

You're going to have to provide a source on Ms Wilson's support of the Treaty legislation.

 

[Saint]

She supported the Voice, but I haven't seen pro-treaty. In October she was spruiking the LNP's First Nations Victoria, a brand new Department with a responsible Minister.

I'm guessing that would be subject to all the same attacks as the current Labor Setup (costs, special treatment, etc.). The Lib supporters didn't like it under Battin and they'll like it less under Wilson.

Different jockey, same horse.

 

[Sttew]

So the Libs are going to tell us that they'll fix health, education and the budget at the same time again?

I take from this comment that you acknowledge Health, Education and the Budget have been neglected by the Allan government?

The cookers and boomers are still going to be fear-mongering about crime, don't worry.

Was it fear mongering about crime that finally convinced Allan to announce the sweeping changes? Emphasis on 'announce'.

 

[Saint]

I take from this comment that you acknowledge Health, Education and the Budget have been neglected by the Allan government?




Was it fear mongering about crime that finally convinced Allan to announce the sweeping changes? Emphasis on 'announce'.

Health, Education, transport and the budget are practically the only things which matter in state politics.

I imagine they're not going to be attackable by the Libs on Transport, so that leaves the rest.

Yes, it was fear-mongering which led to an empty announcement. That's how these things work.

Media froths something up to upset people. Government makes up some smoke and mirrors to cloud it all up again.

Back in the 2000's people used to complain about transport problems and the solution was another study, then another study. (see High-speed rail, airport rail etc). Media frothed, Govt announced study. Then the ALP got on and built a bunch of stuff. Unfortunately for them, Health and Education are ongoing costs which hit the budget bottom line, so they are not bolstered when the budget isn't in great shape.

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

You're going to have to provide a source on Ms Wilson's support of the Treaty legislation.

Will own that I just read that second hand from a non-credible source and that it's totally incorrect. Have edited my post.

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

They surely did lol. Rabble.