Test The Ashes First Test November 21-25 1300hrs @ Perth Stadium

[revo333]

There is no much hardness on any of the comps that sit below international level anymore. What we would give for someone like Katich that you knew was going to dig in albeit even if it was ugly to bat some time. Those players don’t and won’t make it anymore because of the focus on “talent pathways”

Real quick bowling is the greatest examination of a batsman, technically, mentally and anatomically. Plenty failed today.

Marnus can do it and he is always the scape goat when he does.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I don’t think the end result will be much different. It looked a strange decision live - i haven’t had a chance to look at it closely but it didn’t look right to me. Trying to retrofit batsmen who don’t open into openers is a disaster. Bancroft has had his chances, they’ve moved passed him and Harris.

Moved past him for who though?

 

[Kappa]

Khawaja is gonna average under 20 this series. Bet ur house on it

 

[revo333]

Carey is fine.

Not really.

Lobs a ball to third man and walks off while about to crack a smile thinking 'Oh well'

 

[RookiePick]

There's no way you chose to pick on Green's dismissal when Head and Carey's exist.

At least Green was trying to play an actual cricket shot

Head hasn't been able to buy a run in a year. Green had Carey with him and a half hour to get through to stumps. Knowing we were into a soft tail he had a huge swing at one.

The runs did not matter at that stage.

Carey played a dumb shot but he was down to Lyon and friends. A calculated risk to try and add a quick 20-30 and get back to touching distance. He stuffed up but it was in context at least.

 

[allrighty]

Usman's eyes are going and pace is his weakness... this series could get ugly for him.

He needs to be replaced for the rest of the series - Renshaw would be my pick. A legit opener, taller and has experience. Is he the long term option? Maybe not but he is a much better bet than Usi for now.

 

[FreoRicci]

Stokes getting a 5 for should be an embarrassment for the batting group. Trash

 

[Coasters7]

Khawaja apparently not 100% heading into the test and didn’t have any net sessions leading up.

Why did he play? And why are we so insistent in sending him off? He’s not a great of the game, he doesn’t deserve a send off if his form doesn’t warrant it

 

[FreoRicci]

Somehow have to restrict the lead to 250 or so.
What more can Starc do?

 

[PhatBoy]

I didnt think we could bat more brain dead than England. I was wrong.

England’s top 6 actually didn’t bat that dumb, aside from Crawley: they just batted inept.
Duckett got a good but far from unplayable ball. It was very fast and straight but didn’t move and you’d expect most of the time an opening batsman to push it into the onside.
Pope’s dismissal wasn’t even to a fast ball. Green isn’t that quick. Just full and straight and not doing anything.
Brook’s I guess you could argue was reasonably well directed but he got himself in two minds as to whether to play it or not and did neither.
Root got a good ball.
Stokes got a good ball. On another day they might have kept them out. Most of the time maybe not, who knows.
Smith played a dumb shot. The entire English lower half played dumb shots aside from Atkinson whose dismissal was pretty ‘regulation inept.’ I think they batted really poorly.

I have seen the Australian dismissals but not really in context, just some very quick replays, aside from Weatherald which I was watching live. It was poor batting. Head was a very poor shot and Carey and Green certainly looked guilty of some dumb batting. The others probably just guilty of getting good balls or just not handling them very well as opposed to ‘dumb’ play

 

[Australian Randall]

I didnt think we could bat more brain dead than England. I was wrong.

T20 mentality again

 

[PhatBoy]

Why was he picked ahead of Webster anyway? And what is the point of weatherald?

Well he did take a very important wicket if nothing else when England were approaching parity of 3-100 with arguably their best batsman at the crease and a set Pope nearing a half century (Webster may have done the same)

 

[JimmyBC]

Khawaja apparently not 100% heading into the test and didn’t have any net sessions leading up.

Why did he play? And why are we so insistent in sending him off? He’s not a great of the game, he doesn’t deserve a send off if his form doesn’t warrant it

Not ruthless at the top it's a long way from refusing Ian Healy a home test send off in favour of a Gilchrist debut.

 

[Westend]

Why was he picked ahead of Webster anyway? And what is the point of weatherald?

He wasn't marnus was picked ahead of Webster

and webbie is having a poor season with the bat

 

[Xtreme]

Stokes getting a 5 for should be an embarrassment for the batting group. Trash

Stokes is the premier bowler in the test format. He eats weak batsmen for breakfast

 

[Westend]

Somehow have to restrict the lead to 250 or so.
What more can Starc do?

Honestly think it's all over Ricci ......I was so happy and then in a few hours so frustrated and down

 

[Cyber_punk]

Somehow have to restrict the lead to 250 or so.
What more can Starc do?

We could need only 150 with 3 days to do it and I'd still have no confidence in our batting to get there.

 

[big_e]

Stokes is clearly wearing a smart watch. So can communicate directly with coach etc upstairs. And can have information communicated directly to him.

Is that fair play under the auspices of the laws of cricket?

It's not a communication device, it's one of these:

WHOOP | Unlock Human Performance & Healthspan

Optimize sleep, strain, and recovery with WHOOP, the most advanced fitness and health wearable. With personalized insights, improve performance, build healthier habits, and extend healthspan with continuous health monitoring.

www.whoop.com

Fitness tracker only, no ability to receive messages or calls.

 

[RookiePick]

It's not a communication device, it's one of these:

WHOOP | Unlock Human Performance & Healthspan

Optimize sleep, strain, and recovery with WHOOP, the most advanced fitness and health wearable. With personalized insights, improve performance, build healthier habits, and extend healthspan with continuous health monitoring.

www.whoop.com

Fitness tracker only, no ability to receive messages or calls.

Big whoop. Wanna fight about it?

 

[melanChronic]

Starc was fantastic, he's really humming at the moment. Hopefully he can back it up tomorrow-- historically he hasn't fared well in the (all too common) scenario of having to double down after the batters fail to back up the bowlers good work in the first innings.

Doggett looked good initially, got spooked a bit by Brook and Smith but then was the best at banging it in but that's really not his modus operandi generally I'd say.

The rest of the bowling and fielding effort was mostly dross, severe flashbacks to 2023 with singles and twos being haemorrhaged almost every ball, drifting onto the pads a lot and having only one answer-- bang it in short and hope England do something stupid. Which worked today but tbh I'm really not ready to watch a whole series of that shit again.

Then the English bowling effort in response was incredible. I've never seen a four man bowling attack like that, so relentless with all four operating consistently at and often a fair bit above 140km. I guess it was like what the Windies were like back in day. Have to give props to them for putting getting this lineup together and having them so on-song, especially after the chaotic and shambolic batting effort.

 

[cats_09]

When does Travis start coming under some pressure

 

[melanChronic]

When does Travis start coming under some pressure

He looked horribly out of nick today. Even shots he got through the infield had barely any timing, usually when he hits them they stay hit.

It's tough though because he's the kind that can turn it round in an instant, and he's just about the only bloke in the country who can score quickly and freely against world class bowling. We basically need him to fight through this form trough.

 

[philreich]

I'm already dreading the prospect of facing these guys under lights against the pink ball.

 

[PhatBoy]

Starc was fantastic, he's really humming at the moment. Hopefully he can back it up tomorrow-- historically he hasn't fared well in the (all too common) scenario of having to double down after the batters fail to back up the bowlers good work in the first innings.

Doggett looked good initially, got spooked a bit by Brook and Smith but then was the best at banging it in but that's really not his modus operandi generally I'd say.

The rest of the bowling and fielding effort was mostly dross, severe flashbacks to 2023 with singles and twos being haemorrhaged almost every ball, drifting onto the pads a lot and having only one answer-- bang it in short and hope England do something stupid. Which worked today but tbh I'm really not ready to watch a whole series of that shit again.

Then the English bowling effort in response was incredible. I've never seen a four man bowling attack like that, so relentless with all four operating consistently at and often a fair bit above 140km. I guess it was like what the Windies were like back in day. Have to give props to them for putting getting this lineup together and having them so on-song, especially after the chaotic and shambolic batting effort.

I didn’t get to watch much of the Aussie innings after about the 8-10 over mark, I was driving. But listened to when they were 6-down and the overwhelming consensus from every ABC commentator, even Lehmann who is loathe to praise the Poms - even when their batting works he won’t give it a rap for example - was that it was just basically relentless and yeah they did actually draw a comparison to going back to probably Ambrose, Marshall, Patterson, Bishop or Walsh for the last time an Australian team had to deal with this on home shores for an extended period. It was disciplined and sustained.

 

[sabso]

I'm already dreading the prospect of facing these guys under lights against the pink ball.

Couldn’t have said that better myself.