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They aren't KP Forwards and one of them also did an ACL last year, as well. We have a history of being rigid and protective in regards to who gets a place on the last one or two spots on the list. It's not going to get any easier, either, with our commitment to Walker and Tassie hogging the next two drafts after that.
Our best hope seems to be three years away, and still being able to match a bid on Kouta's son, if he proves good enough.
there's better kpp stocks next year then this yearsIf I was to question any point of our List Managemnt this off season is why didnāt we create another list spot (payout Fogarty or Boyd?) and bring in a genuine KPP or trial and extra one over the pre season
We could have got Ludowyke or similar before Ison or Byrne
I am being picky but it would have been nice
More like BCampo, Cerra, Jagga, Cody and Walsh in 2027.
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That's the one thing Pitto is great at
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Really? I would say he is ok at negating and good when he plays a weaker ruck and directs the ball well but some of the dominant rucks get a hold of him too much. He's not a dominant ruck, he's mediocre.
A prime example was the 2023 prelim. Brisbane's game plan at stoppage was based heavily around McInerney dominating him and DeKoning and directing the ball a bit longer and that is what happened. Opened us up and exposes our lack of pace and agility and ability to defend that situation.
That sort of dominance in the ruck would suite us really well. We have a good clearance group who are poor when the ball is going the other way. We can get smashed badly when opposition rucks dominate us and get the ball out in the open and to their mids because we are defensively poor due to poor leg speed and agility but we are skilled and strong so we are offensively strong.
Dominate the ruck and our strengths flourish and it covers up our weaknesses and key tactic opposition sides use against us. A little less easy to coach against.
I see O'Farrell as being able to play both ends and at a high level. That will come to light when he fills out.
In the meantime McGovern is backup key position forward and backup CHB. Which is fine, there are very few situations where he can't cover the oppositions 2nd tall forward and he's actually pretty damn good when he plays as a key forward. I have always said traditional full forward is McGovern's best position, equal with third tall defender. O'Keeffe and McKay will be our primary key targets. We have a few midsize players who will be able to pinch hit as tall forward (Moir and Kemp) and we have smaller forwards now who are good overhead. Very different to previous seasons.
We will have plenty of targets, more than we have had in over a decade forward of the ball.
We won't be winning a flag next year but I expect we could still play finals. 2027 onwards is our time.
Worst thing since lists got smaller is key position players on the list for the sake of it who can't play AFL. Any player. In a few years time if we have missed someone then fair enough but I am guessing that. I think we may find that rumoured interest in RFA King could be legit. Walter is out of contract, we have picks in what is meant to be a better draft next year. Let's see.
If Riley does that I am listing him and he plays round 1.
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2023 he was the number one ranked ruckman for taps to advantage.
He has clear limitations and the new rule may not suit him...but we should credit him the one thing he is ace at...two if you count face melting after the siren torps.
Sure, when he gets hand on it he directs it beautifully. But there are guys who can dominate him, maybe not heaps, but some of them are in the better sides and it's a big part of the game plan on how to beat us.
I don't like our chances against top 8 sides if we are losing the ruck.
Pittonet is 29 and there's very little leap there. I am thinking that tactically and for our future plans, we need to have our feelers out for a young upgrade if it comes.
If Reidy and Pittonet can't beat Riley during the match sim this year we should list Riley and play him from the get go. For the record his tap work is also great.
We need to expect to get rucks from state leagues more. Teams are drafting less rucks. Lists are smaller and having spots taken up by slow developers is not on. Many slow developers, rucks, are getting to state leagues.
Riley is a 206cm player who can handle the ball, has skill and you can kick it to him, he can contest and mark. He's 21.
Who gets first debut.
Iām picking Dean I know talls need to develop but he looks hard cut has great closing speed has worked with Newman as a mentor.
Next Iād say Taylor small forwards are easier to slot in his pressure and hardness would appeal to vossy one injury to Motts Moir Hes in.
Last ISON I reckon heās going to be a gun but feel hes still on a steep improvement trajectory.He looks to need to fill out a bit find out how far he can push himself maybe a debut end of the year depending on injuries.
Iām picking Dean I know talls need to develop but he looks hard cut has great closing speed has worked with Newman as a mentor.
Next Iād say Taylor small forwards are easier to slot in his pressure and hardness would appeal to vossy one injury to Motts Moir Hes in.
Last ISON I reckon heās going to be a gun but feel hes still on a steep improvement trajectory.He looks to need to fill out a bit find out how far he can push himself maybe a debut end of the year depending on injuries.
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Perhaps it's being overly hopeful but I can see Ison playing round 1 if Elijah doesn't make it back onto the list. 192cm flanker, won't need to fill out much more than he already has.
I hope we play Ison on ball rotating forward in the VFL. Feel he could get lost if we leave him in a flank. Played best this year when chucked in the middle.
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His knock is his kicking. Tries his guts out but his disposal is Lachie Fogarty areas.
Really? from all the vision I've seen it looks good. Nothing ground breaking but hits targets more often than not.
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Going to start sounding like a broken record but Alex Holt is a beautiful kick. 20 yo who broke into the Sturt team early in the year and kept improving, had 21 and a goal in the winning GF.
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The only knock I have is leg speed, he's not slow but not explosive either
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The only knock I have is leg speed, he's not slow but not explosive either
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Does he have the tank for repeat efforts into the 4th qtr?
Looks sublime by foot in highlights but you need an AFL fitness base to compete at the level.
I'm all for it if he can maintain the AFL pace but don't expose him before he is ready.
The list looks strong on the flanks in the fwd half of the ground.
Backs aren't thin either.
It all comes down to playing your role in a list where contribution needs to be more even in 2026.
Tick that box, you'd hope to be considered.
As a fan, I would like to believe games will be earned over gifted from here on.
Pumped for rd 1 already.
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Ison is a great size already, just needs to work on hardening up his body. I reckon both Dean and Ison play round 0 just to give us a thrill and let us see what we have on our hands. Byrne to debut late in the season with Charleson.
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No reason he wouldn't if he makes it through the full pre season. He's not starting from far back like a Stocker or even Moir type.
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From games I watched he butchered the ball quite a bit and had a fairly ugly sort of up and under kicking action. Id assume that was the main reason he didn't get picked up, because had the effort and intensity required no problem.
Didn't realise Ison was such a big unit. Solid. Already has an AFL ready physique.
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Was just about to post something similar I the Rd 1 (Rd 0) thread. My guess is that Dean will play quite a few matches, then be rested for some games, maybe a VFL game or so, finishing strongly at end of year. Ison developing in VFL to eventually win a spot, and Byrne also an early debut after some games in the VFL.
Each of the draftees (together with the trades in) add to our overall list. And like some others, I'd love for us to get another tall KPP, but if we're taking a longer-term view, I can also reasons why it may only be next year...
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officially 191cm but looks taller, he could be anything
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All three draftees are imo
Could all play straight up if impress enough throughout preseason
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Measured at 192cm pre draft. They updated their profile of him for the night too.
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