Recruiting AFL Trade & Free Agency XIII

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[Keystone agony]

Again, read my post, I never said to put Tom Mitchel on the list. We agree only that an injury-plagued career results in reduced leadership.
The rest of your post is purely hypothetical and assumes Setterfield will play more games rather than fewer. You seem to be getting more off topic and not reading my posts accurately. I'm not interested in engaging in an endless 'what if' this happens type scenario.

Yes its a hypothetical question, whats your answer, understand its a long way out, but if those things were to happen what chance would you give him of getting an extension to play atleast in 2027?

I think youve not gathered my point though.

Yes my point is we need experience, leadership, training standards, development, direction, guidance and buy in with the benefit that all going well, it could be for 3- 4 more years if we want it to be, your example of tom mitchell doesnt have any of that and hes 5 years older

You clearly want an untried youngster? We disagree, thats fine, we have a tonne of kids and will only get more

Imo the circumstances around Martin, Zerrett, Langford and Ridley need to be considered to some degree, theyre going to have their own challenges clearly

Ive noticed Setterfields on field direction, he directs alot, thats fine you dont see this? I have and feel he can atleast offer 13-14 games of protection if needed to big body 18 yr old mids who are not ready to last a full year week in week out. He has history and has been through the pros and cons and garnered serious resilience, something that our kids could inspire to portray, not one player hasnt gone through adversity in the game. Can he assist/guide guys like L.Hayes, Marto, Bryan ect in their regab. I think so

I think theres enough to suggest hes better than a young kid whos going tk be surrounded by young kids for 6-18 months who wasnt picked up in a weak/shallow draft pool

 

[Duckworth]

You clearly want an untried youngster? We disagree, thats fine, we have a tonne of kids and will only get more

I think this is where it sits.

Possibly interested in this one.

 

[ant555]

I think this is where it sits.

Possibly interested in this one.

Fits the profile. Leader. Competitor.
Bonus is he has good speed and takes the game on.
The knock is disposal. Can make poor decisions when he is rushed and despite having an okay kicking action he can be hit and miss.
Is 100% someone you would find a rookie spot for.

 

[faible]

Fiorini has avg an almighty 2.7 more per year

I disagree, but again he doesnt have to necessarily be playing AFL if were fully fit and healthy and hes holding Robey out of the midfield, IF hes ready for that

There are plenty of ways to work around and the 23 man squad helps this situation

It allows those experienced guys to go elsewhere and help more often if need be. Zerrett can go forward or back. Durham and Caldwell have shown to be good forward aswell

Really fwd is the only area we struggle than with experience? But if were saying 89 games is experience then we have Perkins there, not to mention Langford, 2MP, Guelfi, Gresham

You have to include VFL games in to the calculations for availability as well

 

[naraku]

A bit of talk about Setterfield , but would we consider bringing Lual back?

 

[jdstorm]

A bit of talk about Setterfield , but would we consider bringing Lual back?

I would. Was one of my favourite players last season.

doubt it though given our list needs

 

[Keystone agony]

You have to include VFL games in to the calculations for availability as well

But that posters saying they cant help if theyre not playing AFL

 

[Duckworth]

But that posters saying they cant help if theyre not playing AFL

Don't be a coward and tag me. And I said Setterfield has reduced leadership because he's often injured. Sign him up to the VFL list.

 

[Old Campaigner]

I see no point in bringing Setterfield back. Really good player when fit but he’s frequently not fit.

If we want injury cover then a key criterion is no ongoing injury history. If we’re looking to use the spot to squeeze in another development prospect then that player needs to be young enough to conceivably have upside.

 

[Westlo]

Innes looking at setters injury history

 

[Keystone agony]

Don't be a coward and tag me. And I said Setterfield has reduced leadership because he's often injured. Sign him up to the VFL list.

From memory it was a discussion between a few posters and i couldnt remember exactly who it was, but i dont need to tag everyone i have a chat with

Because he misses 9 weeks during home and away still gives him plenty of opportunity considering just how ridicuously inexperienced we will be losing Martin, Draper, Goldy, Shiel and maybe a fairly disinterested Zerrett and Ridley half way through the year. We disagree with eachother and have talked around in circles for long enough.

Hes our only mature genuine big mid and weve just drafted 3, they aint going to learn as much just against eachother at training with stoppage craft/guidance

Our mid depth is also clearly tested, we already have to be careful with Robey. We dont want to have no option but to push 18 yr old kids into a significant role when theyre not ready for a full year - people wonder why we get injuries

I dont think Mcgrath, Mckay, Redman, Fiorini, 2MP is enough experience. We can hardly be confident relying on Zerrett, Langford, Ridley, Guelfi, Gresham, Parish and not one of those 11 is like Setterfield style wise. Sure, we cant rely on Setterfield either more than his 13-14 games, but its another layer of experience that needs to go down, and id sure love him to be at stoppage craft even if out chatting through with Robey, Sharp and Farrow on setup, manoevores, body work, oppo cues and having a similar frame/size against them

 

[Vindicater]

I see no point in bringing Setterfield back. Really good player when fit but he’s frequently not fit.

If we want injury cover then a key criterion is no ongoing injury history. If we’re looking to use the spot to squeeze in another development prospect then that player needs to be young enough to conceivably have upside.

So much this.

You don't get an injury prone guy to come in to be injury cover.

 

[ghostdog]

From memory it was a discussion between a few posters and i couldnt remember exactly who it was, but i dont need to tag everyone i have a chat with

Because he misses 9 weeks during home and away still gives him plenty of opportunity considering just how ridicuously inexperienced we will be losing Martin, Draper, Goldy, Shiel and maybe a fairly disinterested Zerrett and Ridley half way through the year. We disagree with eachother and have talked around in circles for long enough.

Hes our only mature genuine big mid and weve just drafted 3, they aint going to learn as much just against eachother at training with stoppage craft/guidance

Our mid depth is also clearly tested, we already have to be careful with Robey. We dont want to have no option but to push 18 yr old kids into a significant role when theyre not ready for a full year - people wonder why we get injuries

I dont think Mcgrath, Mckay, Redman, Fiorini, 2MP is enough experience. We can hardly be confident relying on Zerrett, Langford, Ridley, Guelfi, Gresham, Parish and not one of those 11 is like Setterfield style wise. Sure, we cant rely on Setterfield either more than his 13-14 games, but its another layer of experience that needs to go down, and id sure love him to be at stoppage craft even if out chatting through with Robey, Sharp and Farrow on setup, manoevores, body work, oppo cues and having a similar frame/size against them

Hire him as an assistant for this role. Our midfield has no defensive accountability.
We need to move on from players like Setters, Ridley and Cox.

 

[King Patty]

Fits the profile. Leader. Competitor.
Bonus is he has good speed and takes the game on.
The knock is disposal. Can make poor decisions when he is rushed and despite having an okay kicking action he can be hit and miss.
Is 100% someone you would find a rookie spot for.

He's a train on else where. (Richmond)

i mean it doesn't rule us out, but makes it more unlikely he chooses us.

Young ball-winner trains with Tigers after missing out at draft

 

[Old Campaigner]

He's a train on else where. (Richmond)

i mean it doesn't rule us out, but makes it more unlikely he chooses us.

Young ball-winner trains with Tigers after missing out at draft

I think the odds of a train on prospect knocking back a contract put in front of them by anyone are pretty low

 

[eth-dog]

He's a train on else where. (Richmond)

i mean it doesn't rule us out, but makes it more unlikely he chooses us.

Young ball-winner trains with Tigers after missing out at draft

Hudson O'Keeffe was training with us before Carlton signed him. Baldwin with GC before signing with us.

 

[ant555]

He's a train on else where. (Richmond)

i mean it doesn't rule us out, but makes it more unlikely he chooses us.

Young ball-winner trains with Tigers after missing out at draft

If we offer a contract now do you think he says no ?

 

[Snake Charmer]

I reckon McGrath is a chance to play mid this season based on the end of last season

I’d be keen on Raso. Was very interested in him for the msd. Should of been the pick over Smartt

 

[King Patty]

I reckon McGrath is a chance to play mid this season based on the end of last season

I’d be keen on Raso. Was very interested in him for the msd. Should of been the pick over Smartt

Cam Nyko was the VFl player expected to be picked up in MsD before his hammy injury.



think he is training with us a bit to help out again.

 

[King Patty]

We could get Hird back to Essendon, Tom Hird Port Melbourne B&F Winner.

 

[Call Me Cake]

We could get Hird back to Essendon, Tom Hird Port Melbourne B&F Winner.

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As legit as Putin's election victories

 

[Westlo]

As legit as Putin's election victories

Dodoro bought the voting machines!

 

[Zach Package]

I don't think Setterfield makes sense anymore in the context of our trade period.

If I was picking a midfield with everyone fully fit and available he's very close, if not in the first rotation, but picking up Sharp and Robey as big, inside players and him being injured and losing Martin, and not drafting Sweid probably means I would preference a half forward with a bit of legspeed rather than an inside player.

 

[Snake Charmer]

Cam Nyko was the VFl player expected to be picked up in MsD before his hammy injury.

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think he is training with us a bit to help out again.

Wouldn’t be upset if we added Nyko.

Who was the ruck who had something like 30 disposals on debut in a night game for us in the vfl?

 

[King Patty]

I don't think Setterfield makes sense anymore in the context of our trade period.

If I was picking a midfield with everyone fully fit and available he's very close, if not in the first rotation, but picking up Sharp and Robey as big, inside players and him being injured and losing Martin, and not drafting Sweid probably means I would preference a half forward with a bit of legspeed rather than an inside player.

Do a current best 22 - so Robey, Langers, Ridley, Martin all outside plus Hayes, Bryan, Edwards, Jones, maybe sideline caddy too

b: Nguyen McKay Blakiston
hb: Redman Reid Roberts
c: Duursma Parish Fiorini
hf: Durham Gerryn McGrath (c)
f: May Wright Kako
r: Vissentini Merrett Caldwell
int: Johnson Clarke Sharp Guelfi Perkins


Yeah your right a fast half forward still makes sense.....but Kickett was picked up in the rookie draft.

OF the small forwards listed on rookie me. All were drafted....except wes Walley

SMALL-MEDIUM FORWARDS:


Lachy Dovaston | Eastern Ranges | 178cm | 29/05/2007 North
Hussien El Achkar | Calder Cannons | 171cm | 02/04/2007 Dons
Leon Kickett | Swan Districts | 173cm | 07/11/2007 Freo
Jesse Mellor | Geelong Falcons | 185cm | 04/01/2007 Geelong (cat B)
Cameron Nairn | Central District | 188cm | 15/10/2007 Hawks
Zane Peucker | Woodville-West Torrens | 179cm | 04/12/2007 Richmond
Wesley Walley | Subiaco | 182cm | 29/11/2007 (Eagles NGA passed, now training at the Blues)
Tylah Williams | Swan Districts | 175cm | 22/02/2007 Eagles