Scandal Tom Silvagni convicted of rape

[Rod Stroker]

In a taped phone call, he told the victim that she should "just move on with her life".

I'm not surprised he was gaslighting her since it happened.

Isn't it illegal for calls to be recorded without the knowledge/consent of the party being recorded?

If it is illegal, then it could not have been admissible as evidence, and could be grounds for the Silvangi's to sue.

 

[Munich]

Nobody is sticking up for Tom, but most (sane) people can see that this isn't a club issue, nor is his father wrong for standing by his son.

You found his statement today satisfactory?

 

[Saint12]

I'll clarify.

SOS and his wife.

One person only put his hand where he shouldn't have...a father and mother are obviously going to support there child.

 

[frggr]

Outside court, Stephen Silvagni said his son maintained his innocence and the family was exploring its appeal options.

“Jo and I, together with our family members and friends, are so disappointed with the outcome. We all love and support our son,” Stephen Silvagni said.

“Our son continues to maintain his innocence, and we stand firmly behind him.

“We will be considering our options to appeal and shall not be making any further comments on this case. Our goal is to clear his name and bring him home.”

Gross.

 

[frggr]

Isn't it illegal for calls to be recorded without the knowledge/consent of the party being recorded?

If it is illegal, then it could not have been admissible as evidence, and could be grounds for the Silvangi's to sue.

I think the police recorded it - so presumably they would have had the appropriate paperwork filed

 

[jwikked]

You found his statement today satisfactory?

Why does anyone need to find it satisfactory? It changes nothing.

It's admirable that he would stand by his son. I find it weird that some parents would seek to distance themselves in a situation like this.

 

[frggr]

He didn't say anything about the victim, only that his son maintains his innocence.

and that he (and his wife) stand behind their son in his maintaining of innocence.

In other words, "We believe our son over the victim and the findings of the court"

 

[jwikked]

and that he (and his wife) stand behind their son in his maintaining of innocence.

In other words, "We believe our son over the victim and the findings of the court"

Most decent parents would do the same.

 

[frggr]

Why does anyone need to find it satisfactory? It changes nothing.

It's admirable that he would stand by his son. I find it weird that some parents would seek to distance themselves in a situation like this.

It's admirable that they would, despite the findings of the court, effectively declare their son hadn't done anything wrong?

You can support your children through their idiotic, criminal, reprehensible decisions without...you know...denying their sexual crimes.

 

[frggr]

Most decent parents would do the same.

If that's true it would explain why the world is the way it is, then. Zero accountability from the rapist or his spineless parents.

 

[Rod Stroker]

Why? Since when have we punished parents for their adult childrens problems?

Has nothing to do with St Kilda.

Wasn't it reported that SOS was involved in producing, or at least aware of, the fake uber receipt, to help get him off? If that's true, I could see why the Saints wouldn't want to retain him

 

[jwikked]

It's admirable that they would, despite the findings of the court, effectively declare their son hadn't done anything wrong?

You can support your children through their idiotic, criminal, reprehensible decisions without...you know...denying their sexual crimes.

Are you unable to grasp the position they're in? He's telling them he didn't do it (or whatever he's saying), and they're believing their son.

That doesn't mean there wasn't a guilty verdict. It doesn't mean that it didn't happen. They're believing their son, which is what most parents would do. Clearly, you don't have children.

 

[frggr]

Wasn't it reported that SOS was involved in producing, or at least aware of, the fake uber receipt, to help get him off? If that's true, I could see why the Saints wouldn't want to retain him

Oh, I hadn't read that. Read that the uber receipt was forged, but not who was involved. Where was that reported? (not doubting, just interested)

 

[jwikked]

Wasn't it reported that SOS was involved in producing, or at least aware of, the fake uber receipt, to help get him off? If that's true, I could see why the Saints wouldn't want to retain him

Haven't heard of that, but if true, I agree with you

 

[Rod Stroker]

I think the police recorded it - so presumably they would have had the appropriate paperwork filed

fair enough if that's the case

 

[Kappa]

It's admirable that they would, despite the findings of the court, effectively declare their son hadn't done anything wrong?

You can support your children through their idiotic, criminal, reprehensible decisions without...you know...denying their sexual crimes.

I'm not saying he's innocent, but people are allowed to not believe a guilty verdict.

A guilty verdict doesn't mean he 100% did it, I'm sure many parents would believe their child over a court

 

[Saint12]

Wasn't it reported that SOS was involved in producing, or at least aware of, the fake uber receipt, to help get him off? If that's true, I could see why the Saints wouldn't want to retain him

Wow if this true then see you later sos..

 

[parano1a]

Nobody is sticking up for Tom, but most (sane) people can see that this isn't a club issue, nor is his father wrong for standing by his son.

Imagine you have a 19 year old daughter who has been drafted to play AFLW for St Kilda. The club's list manager, one of their most senior figureheads is publicly gaslighting and trying to discredit a rape victim. That doesn't exactly paint a picture of a workplace environment where your daughter will be safe and respected.

 

[frggr]

Are you unable to grasp the position they're in? He's telling them he didn't do it (or whatever he's saying), and they're believing their son.

That doesn't mean there wasn't a guilty verdict. It doesn't mean that it didn't happen. They're believing their son, which is what most parents would do. Clearly, you don't have children.

No, I understand the position they're in.

He's telling them he didn't do it despite the mountains of evidence and the court's finding of guilty. There are recorded phone calls, doctored uber receipts etc.

That they come out and say "We believe our son over the court, the victim, the evidence and the verdict" is absolute idiocy.

Either don't make a statement, or if you do have to make a statement, don't make one that calls the victim and the court liars.

 

[10571z]

Imagine you have a 19 year old daughter who has been drafted to play AFLW for St Kilda. The club's list manager, one of their most senior figureheads is publicly gaslighting and trying to discredit a rape victim. That doesn't exactly paint a picture of a workplace environment where your daughter will be safe and respected.

Regardless of that he sucks as a list manager. His salary dumps were laughable

 

[jwikked]

Imagine you have a 19 year old daughter who has been drafted to play AFLW for St Kilda. The club's list manager, one of their most senior figureheads is publicly gaslighting and trying to discredit a rape victim. That doesn't exactly paint a picture of a workplace environment where your daughter will be safe and respected.

He's not gaslighting, nor is he trying to discredit anyone. All he's said is that his son maintains his innocence, and they'll keep fighting.

 

[ferball]

It's admirable that they would, despite the findings of the court, effectively declare their son hadn't done anything wrong?

You can support your children through their idiotic, criminal, reprehensible decisions without...you know...denying their sexual crimes.

The first stage of the Kubler-Ross model of grief is denial. Even tho its not a completely accurate scientific model its reasonably accurate and so based on that ... there's a fair chance SoS's response is not a rational or calculated response. You seem to be assuming it is.

 

[Saint12]

Imagine you have a 19 year old daughter who has been drafted to play AFLW for St Kilda. The club's list manager, one of their most senior figureheads is publicly gaslighting and trying to discredit a rape victim. That doesn't exactly paint a picture of a workplace environment where your daughter will be safe and respected.

For sure ...or taking young girl recruits to NT and getting pissed and performing lap dances.

 

[Sentinel]

Wasn't it reported that SOS was involved in producing, or at least aware of, the fake uber receipt, to help get him off? If that's true, I could see why the Saints wouldn't want to retain him

If true I imagine SOS himself would have a case to answer, so I highly doubt this is what occured.

 

[Kappa]

Isn't it illegal for calls to be recorded without the knowledge/consent of the party being recorded?

If it is illegal, then it could not have been admissible as evidence, and could be grounds for the Silvangi's to sue.

You're wrong.