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Goalless in 6 games this year. They key is consistency he played well against a poor defence. (Before people go off at me we had 3 forwards kick 4 or more). He needs to start stringing consistent performances together. That by no means he has to kick 5 every week but in the back half of the year he should hope to build to only being held goalless once every 5 games as opposed to 6 out of 11 games.

I’ve never read so much illogical wish wash.

Our forward line hasn’t looked this good since the 2010 to 2012 era. Yet you are knit picking over a 30 odd gamer not racking up goals every game. Clearly you have no idea about the role he is playing for the team.

I could care less if he went goalless in multiple games linked together. If he provides a target. Does the deft little knock ons. Relieves Grundy in the Ruck. Draws more than 2 defenders and frees up other forwards . Contributes to 4 to 5 goals a game. Then he is worth more than a goal a game. Same way Mihocek is going also , guy I playing his role to a tee in only two games.
 
Lynch and Moore are both more talented footballers. The key to defending Cox is engaging the body. He struggles when that happens the times he was given the most space was the first half of the Richmond game and against Melbourne. Good sides will send a strong defender to him and keep him engaged so he can’t run and jump at the ball.

What Collingwood and Cox needs to work out is how does he combat this? As he is not an explosive athlete who is going to get of the mark fast and at his age and with the modern running requirements as a footballer I struggle to see him adding muscle mass to aid him in this regard.

I think it has to come from work with the coaches and he will have to work with what he has. Now he has a high center of gravity that makes him easier to move of the ball so what they need to work on is how he judges it in flight.

As for him to counter people trying to knock him off the ball he has to drop his body height so he can better use his strength and weight and then at the right moment push off them and take the ball. If he is to do that he will be far more balanced when he tries to take the mark and he would of completely and legally put his opponent out of the contest
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Wish he took the Hanger he did as that would been MOTY

I suggested before he'd even debuted that Coxy would take MOTY at some stage. Only a matter of time before he hits a pack and gets that ride. Then he just needs to hold the grab.
 

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My favourite part of his game yesterday was when he marked the ball 50m out in the last and instead of looking to handpass it off, as he has done often this season even from much closer distances, just immediately signalled to everyone that he was going to back himself. Looked confident, kicked it and never looked like missing with a booming 60m kick, a kick many thought he was incapable of.

If he can carry that confidence into future matches, look out competition.

I think the goal from the 50 arc was the most exciting part about his performance. Personally I didn’t think he had it in him. He has instantly become a lot more dangerous. He has the whole 50 arc to work in which adds to a defenders concerns.
 
I think the goal from the 50 arc was the most exciting part about his performance. Personally I didn’t think he had it in him. He has instantly become a lot more dangerous. He has the whole 50 arc to work in which adds to a defenders concerns.
Yep and the one where he curled the ball through the goals. Impressive performance.
 
The key to defending Cox is engaging the body. He struggles when that happens the times he was given the most space was the first half of the Richmond game and against Melbourne. Good sides will send a strong defender to him and keep him engaged so he can’t run and jump at the ball.

What Collingwood and Cox needs to work out is how does he combat this? As he is not an explosive athlete who is going to get of the mark fast and at his age and with the modern running requirements as a footballer I struggle to see him adding muscle mass to aid him in this regard.

I think it has to come from work with the coaches and he will have to work with what he has. Now he has a high center of gravity that makes him easier to move of the ball so what they need to work on is how he judges it in flight.

As for him to counter people trying to knock him off the ball he has to drop his body height so he can better use his strength and weight and then at the right moment push off them and take the ball. If he is to do that he will be far more balanced when he tries to take the mark and he would of completely and legally put his opponent out of the contest

The bolded is interesting. Good sides won't let him do what he's done against the two good sides that we've played;

However, I actually agree with a lot of that; but, I think most of it applies even more to Darcy Moore, if Moore continues to play as a forward. Strange timing though, as one of the most pleasing aspects about Cox's game against Melbourne was that he took a couple of body on body stationary marks. He's developing beautifully and I actually think the body on body marks will eventually become his strength, because once he learns to engage the defender and take away their jump, there's no overcoming his 20cm+reach height advantage.
 
Hey DuckToaster we urgently need a gif of Masons head wobble after he kicked that goal from .....what was it.....about 110 meters out from goal.

No worries, I only make .gif's before 9am if it's an urgent matter (Which this clearly is).
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The bolded is interesting. Good sides won't let him do what he's done against the two good sides that we've played;

However, I actually agree with a lot of that; but, I think most of it applies even more to Darcy Moore, if Moore continues to play as a forward. Strange timing though, as one of the most pleasing aspects about Cox's game against Melbourne was that he took a couple of body on body stationary marks. He's developing beautifully and I actually think the body on body marks will eventually become his strength, because once he learns to engage the defender and take away their jump, there's no overcoming his 20cm+reach height advantage.
That was poorly written and that’s on me, sorry. Melbourne yes are a good side but have a weak undersized defence and defendered poorly all game. Richmond paid him no respect early and than were able to engage the body and completely shut him out of the game in the second. Nathan Broard would just knock him off the line at the right time to put him off balance and prevent him marking
 
What so do you think when someone has engaged his body he is a good at dealing with it at taking the mark? Look at all the good things he has done throughout his time in footy and they happen when he has the freedom to run and jump at the ball. When that freedom is taken away from him he struggles. Now if he wants to improve as a player he has work out how to combat someone engaging his body and going one one one
 
That was poorly written and that’s on me, sorry. Melbourne yes are a good side but have a weak undersized defence and defendered poorly all game. Richmond paid him no respect early and than were able to engage the body and completely shut him out of the game in the second. Nathan Broard would just knock him off the line at the right time to put him off balance and prevent him marking
At the moment Cox wants to launch at everything so he's susceptible to being with body contact - it's why Howe is much better in defence and I suspect Moore will be too. Once cox learns to engage body Contact himself in order to make it a two foot on the ground height contest, he'll be unstoppable. The two stationary early body contact marks he took against the dees were a great sign.
 
The key to defending Cox is engaging the body. Good sides will send a strong defender to him and keep him engaged so he can’t run and jump at the ball.

I think it has to come from work with the coaches and he will have to work with what he has. Now he has a high center of gravity that makes him easier to move of the ball so what they need to work on is how he judges it in flight.

As for him to counter people trying to knock him off the ball he has to drop his body height so he can better use his strength and weight and then at the right moment push off them and take the ball. If he is to do that he will be far more balanced when he tries to take the mark and he would of completely and legally put his opponent out of the contest

Very well summarised. The best part of his game against Melbourne was how he grabbed the ball five different ways, so much potential to do that consistently now on. I think his background as an engineer really helps him to deconstruct the process to go about his football and is the reason he has shown continuous improvement.
 
I mean even if he gets 8 touches 2 marks and 3 hitouts and no goals for the game, you can't really drop him...

Offers so much structurally, just having him we essentially can bring the ball to ground as much as having 2 key forwards.
 

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Very well summarised. The best part of his game against Melbourne was how he grabbed the ball five different ways, so much potential to do that consistently now on. I think his background as an engineer really helps him to deconstruct the process to go about his football and is the reason he has shown continuous improvement.

Yeah, nah.
 
The Cox / lynch issue. now Don't get me wrong Tom Lynch is a great player but what is his worth at 1M not even 1.5M which is been touted i'd say this is way overs. taking nothing away from Cox but logic say's he will never be as good as lynch. but is having a ball / goal dominant forward in today's forward line the answer as presently we have a balanced line up where cox is playing his roll and i can only assume 1/4 of the cost that lynch may cost us. also someone coming on such big coin may tip out 2 other players and rub teamates up the wrong way creating disharmony.
 
The Cox / lynch issue. now Don't get me wrong Tom Lynch is a great player but what is his worth at 1M not even 1.5M which is been touted i'd say this is way overs. taking nothing away from Cox but logic say's he will never be as good as lynch. but is having a ball / goal dominant forward in today's forward line the answer as presently we have a balanced line up where cox is playing his roll and i can only assume 1/4 of the cost that lynch may cost us. also someone coming on such big coin may tip out 2 other players and rub teamates up the wrong way creating disharmony.
A really interesting point, esp. the effect his coin will have on the list. And I've wondered about that position question myself, unless Lynch plays more of the Mihocek/Reid roaming HF role, with Coxy playing deep forward/ruck relief.
 

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A really interesting point, esp. the effect his coin will have on the list. And I've wondered about that position question myself, unless Lynch plays more of the Mihocek/Reid roaming HF role, with Coxy playing deep forward/ruck relief.
also i think this touted AFL rule about having zones / starting positions. because then the Key goal kicking forward does come back into play.
 
Very well summarised. The best part of his game against Melbourne was how he grabbed the ball five different ways, so much potential to do that consistently now on. I think his background as an engineer really helps him to deconstruct the process to go about his football and is the reason he has shown continuous improvement.

I work it the construction industry. Engineers don’t really do much “engineering” they’re these days glorified bean counters


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also i think this touted AFL rule about having zones / starting positions. because then the Key goal kicking forward does come back into play.

I'm not a fan of the zones concept but I think other potential measures like a reduction of I/C rotations will also change that dynamic in favour of more goal kicking. The flip side off course is that clubs once more look to recruit more athletic types who can run all day rather than footballers.
 

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