AFLW Bad news

[Jhye Clark 13]

Nina Morrison out for the year with ACL

https://womens.afl/news/16193/heartbreak-for-no-1-pick-as-scans-confirm-acl-rupture

 

[JumpyHolden]

Not the biggest fan of chicks footy but this is ****ing terrible news, I wish the young lady all the best.

 

[Drunkcat]

wow this is breaking news

 

[Cursed Cat]

Terrible news, Morrison could not have started her AFLW career any better last week, and was on track for a huge year.

I just hope that she can get back to the same level after rehab.

 

[AM]

Shocking news. There appears to be quite an issue with women and sporting knee injuries

 

[ButterMill]

You get a number one pick, they actually look like a number one pick, then you lose them for a year. She was so good last week. Helped me bring my daughter to the TV to watch a bit of footy, look up her draft profile...sad news.

These are the tough years for women's footy. Pioneers are going to smash their bodies to grow the game so that maybe one day a generation of girls can get paid to do so, and maybe get hurt less with a greater commitment to their well-being.

I hope Nina gets as much support from the club as she needs to pursue this dream of playing AFLW again whilst having a sustainable life outside of it.

 

[tenderwarrior]

Shocking news. There appears to be quite an issue with women and sporting knee injuries

I heard something about the general female alignment of hips and knees puts extra strain on the acl in comparison to men, so it is hard to see it never being an issue. I have heard calls for AFLW to use an AFLX format, that could elevate some of the issues due to it being a more open and free-running game, which sounds like it has potential, but the risk of these ideas is that some will find them sexist or make the female version inferior. I dont know what the solution is, but seeing semi-professional young women go through these serious injuries constantly leaves a bitter taste, and makes you think if nothing is done over time they are almost being exploited..

 

[Hamingja]

Shocking news. There appears to be quite an issue with women and sporting knee injuries

For AFL at least.

I can't recall many in tennis for example. No doubt a few but no more than what would just be considered normal attrition. Granted it is not a contact sport but you are putting your knees under pressure on a hard court and sharply changing directions at times.

 

[Spazz Cat]

Cynical was saying the same thing. Even provided statistics etc.
But just copped shit. As per usual.

 

[patience]

Poor Nina and what a blow for the team.

 

[Max Milburn]

Cynical was saying the same thing. Even provided statistics etc.
But just copped shit. As per usual.

He copped shit because he thinks it's a reason to stop women playing a game they love.

 

[goyoucatters]

Shocking news for Nina. So shattered for her and the team after the euphoria of last week's historic win.

She seems like an amazingly strong and rounded individual, though. So I expect her to be back even better than ever when the 2020 seasons rolls around.

And look out AFLW when she returns...

 

[Spazz Cat]

He copped shit because he thinks it's a reason to stop women playing a game they love.

If that's what he actually said I don't agree with that.
But if this keeps happening they're going to have to look at doing something about it.
No-one wants to see people that also have day jobs copping these regularly.
I hope the AFL's insurance has an income supplement for working people.

 

[cats_09]

No one likes to see a player get injured, whether it be a hamstring or an ACL, and nor does it matter if they are male or female.

With the AFLW now in their 3rd season, we seem to be more aware of ACL injuries in the women's game, but no doubt they were ACL injuries prior to the introduction of the AFLW & VFLW it's just that now days there's media coverage.

I've always been a big basketball fan and I can remember a few years ago after a couple of ACL injuries early in the WNBL season that they were talking about the increase in ACL injuries in sport, and made mention of the rising number of injuries in women's sport. It made mention about seeing more ACL type injures in younger women, with a key reason being that their bodies are still developing - ultimately athletes are putting their bodies through more stress at a younger age than was previously the case.

Ultimately, ACL injuries occur in all sports and across all genders - maybe we notice it more in a sport like AFL & AFLW because vast majority of us live in key states for those sports where we get more news about what's happening and we take a keen interest in actively following the game also.

But in terms of ACL injuries in other sports - the following is the extent of Sarah Blicavs knee injury from November 2017, occurred when landing from a lay up & no contact from an opponent:

While originally believing Blicavs had just torn the ACL, surgery has revealed she has also suffered a torn meniscus and fractured knee. Blicavs went under the knife on Monday night and will miss at least 12 months of basketball.

it was the best part of 13 months between games for her. So if people genuinely believe that not having access to AFLW or VFLW will save women from ACL or other serious injuries, you are kidding yourself - shit happens regardless of the sport, and even regardless of the activity. Surely it's better for one to live their life in a way that is positive & having a go compared to being wrapped in cotton wool or bubble wrap for fear getting hurt.

 

[Spazz Cat]

No one likes to see a player get injured, whether it be a hamstring or an ACL, and nor does it matter if they are male or female.

With the AFLW now in their 3rd season, we seem to be more aware of ACL injuries in the women's game, but no doubt they were ACL injuries prior to the introduction of the AFLW & VFLW it's just that now days there's media coverage.

I've always been a big basketball fan and I can remember a few years ago after a couple of ACL injuries early in the WNBL season that they were talking about the increase in ACL injuries in sport, and made mention of the rising number of injuries in women's sport. It made mention about seeing more ACL type injures in younger women, with a key reason being that their bodies are still developing - ultimately athletes are putting their bodies through more stress at a younger age than was previously the case.

Ultimately, ACL injuries occur in all sports and across all genders - maybe we notice it more in a sport like AFL & AFLW because vast majority of us live in key states for those sports where we get more news about what's happening and we take a keen interest in actively following the game also.

But in terms of ACL injuries in other sports - the following is the extent of Sarah Blicavs knee injury from November 2017, occurred when landing from a lay up & no contact from an opponent:

While originally believing Blicavs had just torn the ACL, surgery has revealed she has also suffered a torn meniscus and fractured knee. Blicavs went under the knife on Monday night and will miss at least 12 months of basketball.

it was the best part of 13 months between games for her. So if people genuinely believe that not having access to AFLW or VFLW will save women from ACL or other serious injuries, you are kidding yourself - shit happens regardless of the sport, and even regardless of the activity. Surely it's better for one to live their life in a way that is positive & having a go compared to being wrapped in cotton wool or bubble wrap for fear getting hurt.

That is all true. But...unlike the VFLW or WNBL the AFL is big buisness.
And the AFLW is a big part of it, its actually a very important cog of the whole AFL buisness going forward.
If the AFL knows the statistics and if they're not seriously trying to figure out a way to improve this and the semi professional women copping the injuries aren't getting very fairly compensated I think they're getting ripped off.
I hope players association also looks after them too.

 

[cats_09]

That is all true. But...unlike the VFLW or WNBL the AFL is big buisness.
And the AFLW is a big part of it, its actually a very important cog of the whole AFL buisness going forward.
If the AFL knows the statistics and if they're not seriously trying to figure out a way to improve this and the semi professional women copping the injuries aren't getting very fairly compensated I think they're getting ripped off.
I hope players association also looks after them too.

I think you'll find the AFL is aware and are being proactive in trying to reduce the number of ACL injuries - from an article in today's Herald Sun:

The AFL this year sent clubs a “prep to play” video and guidelines aimed at preventing injuries. The AFL says the program can help reduce ACL injuries by up to 50 per cent.

It was developed off the back of a Latrobe University ACL injury prevention program, which was in place at three Victorian clubs last season.

Players are required to do three, 30-minute sessions a week specific to the injury prevention area.
“We have implemented this program; we hope that both the players and the clubs have been adhering to it and at the moment, in this early stage of AFLW, we just have wait,” AFLW head Nicole Livingstone said.
“We have to wait to see whether or not there’ll be any more, we hope there won’t be, but I can’t guarantee that.
“We continue to implement recommendations for ACL, for pre-habilitation and it’s going to take some time to actually see that make a big difference.
“Post Round 1 of AFLW four ACLs … is not great and we’ll continue to try to make a difference."

https://outline.com/zp7aXt

 

[Turbocat]

No one likes to see a player get injured, whether it be a hamstring or an ACL, and nor does it matter if they are male or female.

With the AFLW now in their 3rd season, we seem to be more aware of ACL injuries in the women's game, but no doubt they were ACL injuries prior to the introduction of the AFLW & VFLW it's just that now days there's media coverage.

I've always been a big basketball fan and I can remember a few years ago after a couple of ACL injuries early in the WNBL season that they were talking about the increase in ACL injuries in sport, and made mention of the rising number of injuries in women's sport. It made mention about seeing more ACL type injures in younger women, with a key reason being that their bodies are still developing - ultimately athletes are putting their bodies through more stress at a younger age than was previously the case.

Ultimately, ACL injuries occur in all sports and across all genders - maybe we notice it more in a sport like AFL & AFLW because vast majority of us live in key states for those sports where we get more news about what's happening and we take a keen interest in actively following the game also.

But in terms of ACL injuries in other sports - the following is the extent of Sarah Blicavs knee injury from November 2017, occurred when landing from a lay up & no contact from an opponent:

While originally believing Blicavs had just torn the ACL, surgery has revealed she has also suffered a torn meniscus and fractured knee. Blicavs went under the knife on Monday night and will miss at least 12 months of basketball.

it was the best part of 13 months between games for her. So if people genuinely believe that not having access to AFLW or VFLW will save women from ACL or other serious injuries, you are kidding yourself - shit happens regardless of the sport, and even regardless of the activity. Surely it's better for one to live their life in a way that is positive & having a go compared to being wrapped in cotton wool or bubble wrap for fear getting hurt.

Nice post ...
my slight counter point is the length of season for the aflw atm make any injury dire.. as in recruit Hickey to be our captain and has now missed the first 2 games... if the game was at a slightly more professional level id certainly feel less derailed when I see and hear of the significant injuries the girls are getting.
I still maintain..as long as all are aware and there is no hiding of the facts ..its up to the individual... and just like in the mens there is probably some women more likely to have an injury than others..more study is required.

 

[Spazz Cat]

I think you'll find the AFL is aware and are being proactive in trying to reduce the number of ACL injuries - from an article in today's Herald Sun:


https://outline.com/zp7aXt

That is really good. Excellent to see they're thinking about it.
As for the other part, as you said you're never going to stop anyone from playing a game they love at any level.
Just hope as part of of the top level (which is first and foremost a money generating business) they get the same exact treatment/surgeons/rehab as the men's, and get very fairly compensated.

 

[Partridge]

If that's what he actually said I don't agree with that.
But if this keeps happening they're going to have to look at doing something about it.
No-one wants to see people that also have day jobs copping these regularly.
I hope the AFL's insurance has an income supplement for working people.

Can’t see that changing until they start charging admission. Which they should be anyway.

 

[Spazz Cat]

Can’t see that changing until they start charging admission. Which they should be anyway.

I hope they don't TBH. Doesn't matter to me anyway. If your part of growing the business and generating income you should be looked after.
GWS give a lot of tickets away for free, they get looked after.
Is all part of growing that future audience.

 

[Cursed Cat]

Can’t see that changing until they start charging admission. Which they should be anyway.

the ol' gold coin donation would be better than nothing.

 

[cynical]

He copped shit because he thinks it's a reason to stop women playing a game they love.

not what I said

I said I dont think it should be played at a professional level

if they want to play it at club level thats up to them(just make sure they have private health insurance that covers ACLs)

just think AFLW is a joke, the game is too physical for the female body and having such a small time period where they are expected to excel is just asking for serious injuries

it's unfortunate for all the females who get swept up in the AFLW hype and end up with serious injuries

 

[Ray Donovan]

I heard something about the general female alignment of hips and knees puts extra strain on the acl in comparison to men, so it is hard to see it never being an issue. I have heard calls for AFLW to use an AFLX format, that could elevate some of the issues due to it being a more open and free-running game, which sounds like it has potential, but the risk of these ideas is that some will find them sexist or make the female version inferior. I dont know what the solution is, but seeing semi-professional young women go through these serious injuries constantly leaves a bitter taste, and makes you think if nothing is done over time they are almost being exploited..

Female anatomy long story short females are 2-10 times more likely to tear an acl compared to males

 

[Spazz Cat]

Kinda what I think. Except should be treated as an ultra professional level with all the same things as men or not at all.
Believe me, the AFL in years to come will make cash out of these women.
You know the statistics and the risks, really they should be making a shitload more out of it.
If their not willing to pay they shouldn't play.
Maybe that's the trade unionism coming out in me.

 

[winty]

not what I said

I said I dont think it should be played at a professional level

if they want to play it at club level thats up to them(just make sure they have private health insurance that covers ACLs)

just think AFLW is a joke, the game is too physical for the female body and having such a small time period where they are expected to excel is just asking for serious injuries

it's unfortunate for all the females who get swept up in the AFLW hype and end up with serious injuries

Don't agree with the bolded. The game is too physical? I've seen big hits in netball too even though that is a non-contact sport. What about rugby? Wrestling? Judo? MMA? Should women stop participating in those sports too?