Play Nice Bye Bye Brad [v4.0] - IT'S HAPPENING!!!

[King Corey]

As much as I don't think he should've coached us past 2016 it is what it is so I'll reserve judgement on his 2019 incarnation until let's say round 9 excepting an extreme swing either way.

And by extreme I mean a streak of 8 wins or losses.

Scarily I think the board would ignore a streak of 8 losses and look for extenuating circumstances.

Conversely we get on an 8 win streak and Brad knows he'll be in employment until 2030.

 

[Tas]

Not really much to gain from sniping him all week, for better or worse we are stuck with him. Lets hope it is for the better. I'd rather have a lot of positive things to talk about.

 

[Johnny99]

Some coaches create a plan around the strengths of their players.



Some coaches create a plan and get the players to fit to it.


I think we are somewhere in the middle meaning we master nothing.


If Brad is recontracted this year I will throw up. And by throw up I mean contact the club and tell them exactly why I am downgrading my memberships.


We've trained all preseason to do handball happy nonsense. It's taking a knife to a gun fight with the current pressure tactics in use across the AFL.

This post is spot on.


And the stupid thing is, Brad is wanting us to play a game, we don't have the skills to play !


Handball-handball-run- short pass.....


Looks great when you are doing it in circle work at training.


But in a game, under pressure....we crumble and it doesn't work.


Why ? because we are not skilled enough to play this way.


On Sunday, Freo had 2-3 players in our forward line.


And when we advanced and they put the pressure on. We turned it over, time and time again.


And how many times did they score on the rebound ?

 

[GreatBradScott]

The question for those of us who waver on the idea of him passing his use-by date - who is the alternative?

Ratten? Cause you would want to get on that boat ASAP before Richo gets it in the neck.

 

[shimaburnsgrieg]

I think we'll find out a bit about Brad this week at selection.

He got unusually grumpy at the players on Sunday and now he has the opportunity to do something about it on Thursday night.

If he does his usual 1-2 changes ..I'm backing them in...approach then it is clear that he has checked out mentally. It's all too much for him and he would rather remain a mate of the players - he will see out his contract over the next 12 months playing basically the same 24-26 players.

If he bites the bullet at selection this week - makes an example of multiple underperformers and says ...that was unacceptable - you want to play for North you must meet minimum standards ...then I would say he is preparing to settle in for the long haul. That to me requires dropping multiple chronic underperformers and making 5-6 changes.

 

[kangaspurs]

The question for those of us who waver on the idea of him passing his use-by date - who is the alternative?

Ratten? Cause you would want to get on that boat ASAP before Richo gets it in the neck.

I said it earlier, but it's only a matter of time until Sam Mitchell is the single most in demand coach on the market. He's a footballing genius, but **** it would be a massive risk to jump on him so early, and perhaps he might want to do a bit more of an apprenticeship first.

I mean, I don't actually think it will happen, but it's one of those situations that could be a risk that turns into a master stroke, or could set us back years.

But yeah, Ratten seems to be the obvious candidate for the next coaching position that opens up, but again, that would be a risk too because of his history. Most coaches in the AFL atm seem to be safe simply by virtue of there being no obvious alternative.

The other option would be to try a Fremantle-esque ploy of luring an established senior coach away from his current employers, but that would be far more complex.

 

[King Corey]

I said it earlier, but it's only a matter of time until Sam Mitchell is the single most in demand coach on the market. He's a footballing genius, but **** it would be a massive risk to jump on him so early, and perhaps he might want to do a bit more of an apprenticeship first.

I mean, I don't actually think it will happen, but it's one of those situations that could be a risk that turns into a master stroke, or could set us back years.

But yeah, Ratten seems to be the obvious candidate for the next coaching position that opens up, but again, that would be a risk too because of his history. Most coaches in the AFL atm seem to be safe simply by virtue of there being no obvious alternative.

The other option would be to try a Fremantle-esque ploy of luring an established senior coach away from his current employers, but that would be far more complex.

We have an at least tenuous sentimental tie to 3x premiership coaches in the league. All could be approached with a truckload of cash and a "coming home" motif.

I still think Darren Crocker or Leigh Tudor might be just what we need and right under our nose. For anyone tarring them with the Brad brush, lets not forget Denis coached U19s under a Schimma structure until a gap year under Sheedy.

 

[Royal Flush]

If he does his usual 1-2 changes ..I'm backing them in...approach then it is clear that he has checked out mentally.

He's been checked out for years then.


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[pupstar]

If the club doesnt put him on notice then supporters are going to leave the club in droves.
Every day we delay a decision on him sets us further and further behind.
I was a big fan of how we approached 2018.
But today he needed to prepare for this game like his career depended on it.
And he didnt. He failed dramatically to the point I am concerned his job security is so secure this cycle of mediocrity is going to never end.

Where does the club draw the line? How many excuses fly under the radar. I mean Cunners is 28 and balding and the side still has the same flaws, same issues it did the day Brad arrived. He has strengths in areas, He plays the Neil Balme role perfectly. Thats where he should be employed.
When it comes to executive decisions on the side and ensuring certain levels are met he is inadequate.

There is no shame in accepting a football department role after failing at coaching. Ratten, Leppitsch, Voss, Primus all done it. Countless s Saints Suns more.
He needs to step aside and uphold any respect or integrity he has for the club and more importantly the players.
Its quite clear they love him but they dont play for him. This is such a bad combination that has been left to manifest with each man that gets drafted through the door.

Days like today cant continue to happen.

If the club doesn't put him on notice then supporters are going to leave in drove .If that is the case they are not true blue supporters If that was the case Blues Saints Suns Freo just to name a few would have no supporters as well .

 

[Only Forwards]

The question for those of us who waver on the idea of him passing his use-by date - who is the alternative?

Ratten? Cause you would want to get on that boat ASAP before Richo gets it in the neck.

John Blakey.

Because f*** Nick.

Leigh Tudor

This is who I think it should be.

 

[Mav]

If the club doesn't put him on notice then supporters are going to leave in drove .If that is the case they are not true blue supporters If that was the case Blues Saints Suns Freo just to name a few would have no supporters as well .

Name one of those clubs that has hung to a coach that hasn't made a GF for nine years. We have an unprecedented coach. The only coach in the history of the AFL that has coached continually at the same club without reaching a GF. Fans will not stand for his bullshit anymore. If he can't get this list to top 4 this year then he needs to pack his bags. Hanging onto him will cost more than any payout.

As for the payout, I can't believe his contract wouldn't have a performance based trigger in it.

 

[Horizons_00]

I think we'll find out a bit about Brad this week at selection.

He got unusually grumpy at the players on Sunday and now he has the opportunity to do something about it on Thursday night.

If he does his usual 1-2 changes ..I'm backing them in...approach then it is clear that he has checked out mentally. It's all too much for him and he would rather remain a mate of the players - he will see out his contract over the next 12 months playing basically the same 24-26 players.

If he bites the bullet at selection this week - makes an example of multiple underperformers and says ...that was unacceptable - you want to play for North you must meet minimum standards ...then I would say he is preparing to settle in for the long haul. That to me requires dropping multiple chronic underperformers and making 5-6 changes.

Whenever Brad has shown this at the selection table we have performed really well only to have him fall into his old “back them In” habits

If he has no performance based trigger like Buckley had then it’s the people above Brad that are making the wrong calls (his extension)

 

[Gasometer]

“Unusually grumpy”

When he was signed that’s wat I was expecting

I reckon in the past ten years I can name two bakes of players publicly and probably as many Team sprays

Maybe that’s his style as a Coach

But the difference between his win at all costs playing days and Coaching days are miles apart

 

[FlyHigh18]

Get rid of him, we’ll most likely become more competitive and exciting to watch as Brad sucks the life out of everything.

However ultimate success isn’t happening until we get some superstars.

I’ve seen plenty of shit coaches win premierships but the opposite is far and few in between.

At the end of the day it will be players like Bailey and and LDU who bring us success.

 

[The acurate one]

I do know Brad has accepted responsibility for the latest disaster. Not that I'm sure that means anything other than yeah my fault and a shoulder shrug.

I suppose what really rattled my cage, fried my goose, upset my cart of apples and basically sent me off centre.......... was after I had flamboyantly stormed out of the room and then skulked my way back only to see Goldie on the pine and Brown lose a ruck contest. At that point in time we had the worst forward line ever in the history of football at a professional level.

Mason Wood- was off and having as much impact as us at home yelling abuse at anyone within earshot.
Domald Tyson- not sure he's ever been a fwd ?
JZ- is good but mainly when Brown/Waite were around to allow him space. (3rd tall)
Cunners- ok resting occasionally
Turner- the most experienced of the lot
LDU- Love what he's bringing as a mid and will be mighty fine, as a fwd


That fwd line is on our coach and that fwd line is ****ed!

 

[shintemaster]

I do know Brad has accepted responsibility for the latest disaster. Not that I'm sure that means anything other than yeah my fault and a shoulder shrug.

I suppose what really rattled my cage, fried my goose, upset my cart of apples and basically sent me off centre.......... was after I had flamboyantly stormed out of the room and then skulked my way back only to see Goldie on the pine and Brown lose a ruck contest. At that point in time we had the worst forward line ever in the history of football at a professional level.

Mason Wood- was off and having as much impact as us at home yelling abuse at anyone within earshot.
Domald Tyson- not sure he's ever been a fwd ?
JZ- is good but mainly when Brown/Waite were around to allow him space. (3rd tall)
Cunners- ok resting occasionally
Turner- the most experienced of the lot
LDU- Love what he's bringing as a mid and will be mighty fine, as a fwd


That fwd line is on our coach and that fwd line is ******!

Yep. I'd literally prefer any of the players you listed in the ruck for a start. That's an indictment though. We knew Waite was gone and we've known Maj was out for 3 months. At what point did we decide a Brown as only tall led forward line was a good idea?

 

[The acurate one]

Yep. I'd literally prefer any of the players you listed in the ruck for a start. That's an indictment though. We knew Waite was gone and we've known Maj was out for 3 months. At what point did we decide a Brown as only tall led forward line was a good idea?

He backed in Wood for some strange reason and it only gets worse, when not if Maj returns McKay will be straight out and Maj will return down back. You'd ****ing think he'd look at changing it up- but no not this pelican.

 

[Samsquanch]

Have you thought about a reboot of your name?

Maybe he could try Owen.

Owen one.

 

[shintemaster]

He backed in Wood for some strange reason and it only gets worse, when not if Maj returns McKay will be straight out and Maj will return down back. You'd ******* think he'd look at changing it up- but no not this pelican.

I would have thought Maj forward / ruck role and McKay to continue to get games (within reason obviously) would make more sense personally.

 

[Ball Dont Lie]

A long read but we all remember then and wonder wow it’s been 10 yrs??

https://www.theroar.com.au/2019/03/27/north-melbournes-worst-losses-under-brad-scott/

 

[shintemaster]

A long read but we all remember then and wonder wow it’s been 10 yrs??

https://www.theroar.com.au/2019/03/27/north-melbournes-worst-losses-under-brad-scott/

I have to say I agree. That was pretty much the worst under Scott. That game is how I felt at half time in the final against Essendon - I was about as dark on this club and their tendency to go down without a whimper when it mattered as it was possible to be - Sam Wright and a Ben Brown freak show meant that we turned it around, but I don't know what I'd have done if we'd let that game slip so easily. This was definitely worse than Adelaide taking us apart in Rd 1 a few years back. This team has no excuse to be losing by that much while season is live. End of story.

 

[kingcarey1]

Does BBB stand for Big Bustling Brad or Bad Boy Bradley?

 

[Grogg]

Yep. I'd literally prefer any of the players you listed in the ruck for a start. That's an indictment though. We knew Waite was gone and we've known Maj was out for 3 months. At what point did we decide a Brown as only tall led forward line was a good idea?

Welcome to my ongoing gripe.

Why develop McKay as a KPB?

Why?

All your eggs are on an injury prone, flakey Wood, a lead up developing Larkey, an untried Watson or Durdin.

Idiocy, imo.

 

[jarjarpowers]

When sides get on a run against us we go into our shell. A consistent theme throughout Brad's tenure. If it's not on our terms we look like utter shit.
Onfield leadership was appalling yesterday, but Brad just let it unfold. Needed to try something: Ziebell on the ball, Higgins back or forward to break the tag, long kicks down the boundary line to force stoppages even, rather than just handball happy out of defence...The players obviously looked to handball as a first option, which ended in disaster time and again. So change it up!! That said, he certainly didn't coach the midfield to get smashed like that....

I've had faith, I've looked for the good, I've appreciated some fine wins. But a decade is enough of a sample size. He isn't a premiership coach. We're headed for 9th again.

Ninth???? Dreaming

 

[Tas]

The question for those of us who waver on the idea of him passing his use-by date - who is the alternative?

Ratten? Cause you would want to get on that boat ASAP before Richo gets it in the neck.

Eventually when we change coach, I hope the focus is on a candidate who is a skills based focused coach. It is great to pressure, it is great to win the contested ball and clearances, but if you can't hit a target then it is all for nothing.