Opinion Matthew Nicks: Adelaide's Coach (Part 2) - Full Support of the Board

[cleanhands]

What’s will it be like IF we are 30 points down at half time Friday night he he

 

[FR0GGY]

Port 2023

Got in first and I’m not even retired

 

[FR0GGY]

What’s will it be like IF we are 30 points down at half time Friday night he he

 

[cleanhands]

Got in first and I’m not even retired

Well get busy

 

[footy4ever]

What’s will it be like IF we are 30 points down at half time Friday night he he

We'll win by only 7.

 

[rabidcrow]

"Crows Coach Matthew Nicks

Matthew Nicks

Age

48

Ht

187cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

9.4

4star

HB

4.2

3star

M

4.1

4star

T

1.7

4star

G

0.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

6.6

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.2

3star

T

1.4

4star

G

0.4

3star

has re-signed with the Club"

I was kinda hoping that was some kind of auto-correct typo, as in "resigned from" .

But, no .

The first half of last week's GCS loss had the Nicks stamp all over it:
--- odd selection decisions (misplaced trust in ineffective try-harders and underperforming seniors and think on this, if Sloane was available, Nicks woulda picked him and given him plenty of midfield time)
--- slow start, no fire/intensity until too late
--- NO game plan for wet weather footy
--- intense fightback for another close loss, as per 2023 from which Nicks has learned nothing.

Yeah, give that another 2 years .
At the very least, the Club could have waited until after Round 5.
If the Crows are 0-5 or even 1-4 it's gonna look like a foolish, premature decision.

I think this was sorted a little while ago and so was inevitable regardless of Round 1

While Silvers comments in the pre season hinted at some more hoops for Nicks to jump through to get an extension every other comment and action from the club has been clear they are aligned with Nicks, rate what he has done and believe he is the man

I think many of the criticisms people have on this board for him are true of every single coach in the AFL without exception. Macrae was copping it on Collingwoods board last year for some around the edges selections and game plan stuff by supporters and they won the bloody flag!

Surely no one was actually surprised by this signing



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[cleanhands]

I think this was sorted a little while ago and so was inevitable regardless of Round 1

While Silvers comments in the pre season hinted at some more hoops for Nicks to jump through to get an extension every other comment and action from the club has been clear they are aligned with Nicks, rate what he has done and believe he is the man

I think many of the criticisms people have on this board for him are true of every single coach in the AFL without exception. Macrae was copping it on Collingwoods board last year for some around the edges selections and game plan stuff by supporters and they won the bloody flag!

Surely no one was actually surprised by this signing



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They could have aleast tried to make it look like it was performance based

 

[OldCrowBloke]

I have a slightly different take.
If Nicks spent this year coaching for his survival, he would be more inclined to stick to conservative selections and no variation in game style.
He now has some certainty to allow for more flexible thinking - it is just a matter of seeing if he has the capacity to do that.

 

[GameofSloanes]

All I am hearing is excuses, I'll shut up once there's actually some ******* runs on the board.

Objectively though if you strip everything back and look at it, we announced that we were planning to be out of Footy Park and up and going at Thebarton Oval by 2025 (according to our press release back in 2022). Here we are heading towards mid 2024 and we're running "another" community consultation and still years away from it even coming to fruition.

Clearly the club didn't do anywhere near the level of due diligence in relation to the complexities attached to Kings Reserve prior to committing to it and it's turned into a massive cluster F*.

You can polish this up as much as you want, but it reeks of incompetence. In Olsen's defense, it's not really his fault as the incompetence of this club pre-dated his arrival and will most likely post-date him too, it's just endemic of the club.

I know you have strong emotional ties to Olsen, but at the end of the day I just want the best candidates possible at the club and if you think that the AFC Board have been exemplary in their handling of Thebarton Oval thus far then I guess we can just agree to disagree.

Giving Nicks an extension at this current point is just another mistake on top of a pile of mistakes that this club has made.

Disagree.
As someone who is involved in engineering projects regularly, what is happening at Thebarton is pretty standard in terms of consultation, delays etc. Note that the number of consultations etc has nothing to do with us, they are regulatory requirements through the Development Act, council and state government requirements.
We'll be starting construction at some stage in 2024 I would think so it looks like timeframes aren't too far off those set in 2022. Again delays like this are fairly typical. I don't think they expected the amount of resistance they got, which is fair given the age and size of the trees that are being affected and the support given to AFC by Council, and the likely significant improvement of the area, however as usual the vocal minority always wins regardless of the merits of their case. There are far larger or more significant projects that have been impacted more significantly than ours.
I don't really care about Olsen enough either way tbh, but as far as I can see the HQ has been managed reasonably well.
Nicks extension, yes I wouldn't have done it until at least mid season, and even then only if we were entrenched in the 8. From what I saw last week, it's more likely we'll be bottom 4. Will be interesting.
Laying mistakes from previous administrations at Olsen's feet is a bit disingenuous. Since he's taken over, I can't really say there has been much done wrong. HQ I've covered above, coaching panel whilst unproven to get results is still significantly better than it was, club culture seems great and is possibly the main thing Nicks has done, off field administration also significantly improved (I would get rid of some/all of the board but the AFL control that for now), membership is lifting, financials are improving, recruiting/drafting has improved (couldn't have gotten worse), results are trending up.
I guess it's a wait & see on whether Nicks' extension is the right thing to do, personally hope it works out, it's a tough draw at the start of the year so this could bite them though.

 

[GameofSloanes]

I have a slightly different take.
If Nicks spent this year coaching for his survival, he would be more inclined to stick to conservative selections and no variation in game style.
He now has some certainty to allow for more flexible thinking - it is just a matter of seeing if he has the capacity to do that.

Well let's hope you are right, there is certainly evidence that he would be conservative without it

 

[Scorpus]

I have a slightly different take.
If Nicks spent this year coaching for his survival, he would be more inclined to stick to conservative selections and no variation in game style.
He now has some certainty to allow for more flexible thinking - it is just a matter of seeing if he has the capacity to do that.

If he has a contract bonus to make finals be will still coach conservatively

 

[OldCrowBloke]

Unfortunately this all but guarantees he will be coaching next year regardless of results this year

I think it was Brad Scott on 360, said all coaching contracts had a max 6 month payout period if coach was sacked.

 

[cleanhands]

I have a slightly different take.
If Nicks spent this year coaching for his survival, he would be more inclined to stick to conservative selections and no variation in game style.
He now has some certainty to allow for more flexible thinking - it is just a matter of seeing if he has the capacity to do that.

Winning takes care of everything

 

[feenix67]

Is it a rushed decision? There has been a four year body of work by this point.

The club hierarchy would be 100% certain right now if Nicks - and his vision - would be what they want. Or if it's time to move on, and if the club was like "oh we'll see how he goes in 2024 to make a decision", he should have been sacked at the end of 2023 as we're just wasting time. Delaying really doesn't achieve anything.

Then why not extend him last year. What could they have possibly seen in the last couple of months that has made them think "* it, let's give him two more"? There has been no trigger to sign him, it's all been stage managed. Our clubs ongoing greatest "strength".

 

[OldCrowBloke]

If he has a contract bonus to make finals be will still coach conservatively

Possibly true - we never are privy to details of contracts. I guess that is what fuels all our speculation!

 

[Geoffa32]

Absilutely no excuse for him to not be as aggressive at selection as possible now.

Two Murphys??

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[Geoffa32]

Bookmark this post for the massive payout we will need to hand him when sacking him that cripples our football department spending

He wouldn't be on much more than $400k a year...

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[GreyCrow]

I have a slightly different take.
If Nicks spent this year coaching for his survival, he would be more inclined to stick to conservative selections and no variation in game style.
He now has some certainty to allow for more flexible thinking - it is just a matter of seeing if he has the capacity to do that.

In breaking news leopards dont change their spots

 

[Scorpus]

He wouldn't be on much more than $400k a year...

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If he's only on $400k I would expect the rest of our football department to be stacked, which it isn't

 

[feenix67]

I have a slightly different take.
If Nicks spent this year coaching for his survival, he would be more inclined to stick to conservative selections and no variation in game style.
He now has some certainty to allow for more flexible thinking - it is just a matter of seeing if he has the capacity to do that.

It depends on the KPIs he's been given. If it's "develop the kids" I agree, if it's "make finals" we are cooked.

 

[MRB37]

I think it was Brad Scott on 360, said all coaching contracts had a max 6 month payout period if coach was sacked.

Coaches Association got that bumped up to 12 months recently.

 

[Peter Doherty]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-makes-it-financially-easier-for-clubs-to-sack-contracted-senior-coaches/news-story/5113232054f4f50f084c7fead5290c12?amp&nk=dedfe6a226c99208088dc37fd5fb72ff-1710989909

Pay walled.

 

[FR0GGY]

Then why not extend him last year. What could they have possibly seen in the last couple of months that has made them think "* it, let's give him two more"? There has been no trigger to sign him, it's all been stage managed. Our clubs ongoing greatest "strength".

We value off field performance

 

[FR0GGY]

Coaches Association got that bumped up to 12 months recently.

Longmuir was still talking about 6months

 

[MarcusP2]

Coaches Association got that bumped up to 12 months recently.

Tit's only for AFL-assisted clubs like Suns and St Kilda.

AFL insists on six-month payout clauses for coaches

New guidelines to AFL-funded clubs limits payouts regardless of the length of contracts. But the coaches' association believes it gives incompetent boards a ''get-out-of-jail-free'' card.

www.theage.com.au