List Mgmt. Draftee, NGA and Father/Son Discussion - 2025

[Mop]

We don't need a guy that can play on all 3 lines. We need PURE Midfields. Hence Sharp and Cummings as the best combo.

Hate all this most upside talk, if that's the case. We've already got the best player with upside under 21

Who is this A grade elite outsider that we have on our list?

 

[Obeanie1]

Every likelihood we’ll only use 3 top end draft picks depending on how many players we trade in and available list spots - picks 1,2 and maybe the Port pick around 7/8 if we can get it off Gold Coast.

Need to find the best combination from -

Duursma
Duff-Tytler
Sharp
Lindsay
Xavier Taylor
Cumming
Grlj
Schubert
Farrow
Robey

If we don’t trade either 1 or 2, then our 3rd selection will be dependent on who Richmond and Essendon pick with their selections between 2 and the port pick

Can’t afford to **** those 3 picks up

2026 season

Duursma - starts in defense
Sharp - pure on-baller starts as bench rotation
Cumming - forward / mid rotation with Hewett / Gross

If we split 1 we miss Duursma IMO.

If we split 2 we risk missing Sharp depending on what we get back.

 

[bzparkes]

We don't need a guy that can play on all 3 lines. We need PURE Midfields. Hence Sharp and Cummings as the best combo.

Harley Reid is a bloke who can play all 3 lines.

Should we have passed on him for a pure midfielder in Ryley Sanders instead?

Hate all this most upside talk, if that's the case. We've already got the best player with upside under 21

You need more of it. As much as possible in fact.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Harley Reid is a bloke who can play all 3 lines.

Should we have passed on him for a pure midfielder in Ryley Sanders instead?



You need more of it. As much as possible in fact.

Sanders is a big disappointment. Not sure he plays 100 games

 

[WCEConnor23]

Who do we want at the Hawks pick assuming we don't trade it? Looks like we'll fall short of some talent in NHH, Dovaston, Phillipou and Farrow unless there's a slider.

I'd be looking at Harley Barker or Swadling if we end up keeping it.

 

[wceeaglesfan]

2 different draft routes

Trades

• Pick 19, 33, 35 and STK F2 for GC pick 6
• pick 2 + 15 for ESS pick 4, 5 and F3

Scenario 1
1 Willem Duursma - Transition mid
4 Dyson sharp / Sam Cummings - inside Mid
5 Xavier Taylor / Jacob farrow - defender
6 Lachy Dovaston / Aidan Schubert / Noah hibbens - Fwd

Scenario 2
Trades
- Pick 19, 33, 35 and STK F2 for GC pick 6
1 Willem Duursma - transition - mid
2 CDT - ruck
6 Dyson sharp / Cummings - mid
15 I will be hoping for Dovaston but it will probably be barker or Oskar Taylor, best player available

 

[wceeaglesfan]

Who do we want at the Hawks pick assuming we don't trade it? Looks like we'll fall short of some talent in NHH, Dovaston, Phillipou and Farrow unless there's a slider.

I'd be looking at Harley Barker or Swadling if we end up keeping it.

I would look at Harley barker, Oskar Taylor and Matt leray

 

[WCEConnor23]

I would look at Harley barker, Oskar Taylor and Matt leray

I think Barker would be worth a punt. We can afford to have him miss a year, and he's probably the highest potential player in that range.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

2 different draft routes

Trades

• Pick 19, 33, 35 and STK F2 for GC pick 6
• pick 2 + 15 for ESS pick 4, 5 and F3

Scenario 1
1 Willem Duursma - Transition mid
4 Dyson sharp / Sam Cummings - inside Mid
5 Xavier Taylor / Jacob farrow - defender
6 Lachy Dovaston / Aidan Schubert / Noah hibbens - Fwd

Scenario 2
Trades
- Pick 19, 33, 35 and STK F2 for GC pick 6
1 Willem Duursma - transition - mid
2 CDT - ruck
6 Dyson sharp / Cummings - mid
15 I will be hoping for Dovaston but it will probably be barker or Oskar Taylor, best player available

1 duursma
4 sharp
5 cumming
6 schubert

Or
1 duursma
2 sharp
6 cumming/farrow/schubert
15 dovaston/phillipoo

 

[juice568]

2 different draft routes

Trades

• Pick 19, 33, 35 and STK F2 for GC pick 6
• pick 2 + 15 for ESS pick 4, 5 and F3

Scenario 1
1 Willem Duursma - Transition mid
4 Dyson sharp / Sam Cummings - inside Mid
5 Xavier Taylor / Jacob farrow - defender
6 Lachy Dovaston / Aidan Schubert / Noah hibbens - Fwd

Scenario 2
Trades
- Pick 19, 33, 35 and STK F2 for GC pick 6
1 Willem Duursma - transition - mid
2 CDT - ruck
6 Dyson sharp / Cummings - mid
15 I will be hoping for Dovaston but it will probably be barker or Oskar Taylor, best player available

Essendon aren't trading 4 & 5 for 2 &15

 

[wceeaglesfan]

1 duursma
4 sharp
5 cumming
6 schubert

Or
1 duursma
2 sharp
6 cumming/farrow/schubert
15 dovaston/phillipoo

I don’t think we need 3 mids, we already have Harley and hewett. Also i think we need a good ball user of HB instead of a key forward, so i would take farrow or Xavier.

Also don’t think sharps ceiling is high enough to warrant using a top 3 pick.
Sadly don’t think Dovaston will be available, that pick will probably be around 23.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

I don’t think we need 3 mids, we already have Harley and hewett. Also i think we need a good ball user of HB instead of a key forward, so i would take farrow or Xavier.

Also don’t think sharps ceiling is high enough to warrant using a top 3 pick.
Sadly don’t think Dovaston will be available, that pick will probably be around 23.

We need three mids. **** it, take 4.

Brisbane have 8 that played tonight. And...1 who missed with injury and 2 in the VFL who can't get a game......and have another 2 coming in at the draft.

We are last in every midfield stat that exist.

Tackles
1%
Contested
Uncontested
Clearance
Centre clearances
Ground balls

 

[Elite Pete]

We need three mids. **** it, take 4.

Brisbane have 8 that played tonight. And...1 who missed with injury and 2 in the VFL who can't get a game......and have another 2 coming in at the draft.

We are last in every midfield stat that exist.

Tackles
1%
Contested
Uncontested
Clearance
Centre clearances
Ground balls

Yep, most good mids can play anywhere. Unless it’s 3 x Sharp type mid (he’s even been a decent footballer forward and half back)

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Geez, I'd love Dovaston if we traded back or find another top 10 pick.

I'm a no on Robey.

 

[WCE777]

We need three mids. **** it, take 4.

Brisbane have 8 that played tonight. And...1 who missed with injury and 2 in the VFL who can't get a game......and have another 2 coming in at the draft.

We are last in every midfield stat that exist.

Tackles
1%
Contested
Uncontested
Clearance
Centre clearances
Ground balls

This, we need 4.
We have HR, Hewett, Allan, Gross, McCarthy maybe.
Draft 3-4 mids while we are down the bottom and set us up for 10 years.
Minimum 2 this year, 1 in 2026.
Sharp, Cumming, Duursma is an outside player who is probably a transition player across HB/WING/HF, lower priority but still best 5 talent in the draft.

Draft mids next year out of a group of A Butler, L Hicks, A Van Dyk, G Gale available to us and all the other mids who don't make it in the guts become outside/role players across our list.

Add to that both Banfield FS's, K Evans NGA and we have a great core of inside outside players.

More important to add to our KPD players through the draft after the midfield and add to our stocks.

2025/26 we need 2 KPD players drafted, D Shanahan NGA 2026 will be one and surprised if he doesn't make it, the other is a priority this year while we have draft capital and bank a good prospect for 3-4 years time when they mature.

Whether that is Ainsworth, Thredgold or Stumpf.
Barrat as part of the Ryan trade or Zakostelsky who are CHB options.

 

[Jukes]

Xavier Taylor strikes me as the sort player who will go somewhere between Pick 6-10 but when they do the “2025 redraft” in 2030, he will be Pick 1-2.

 

[braddalzielleoursaviour]

Me being unrealistic for a second.
Ess trades Merret to Hawks for pick 10+ F1 and a good player. This becomes relevant a bit later lol.

We acquire pick 2 for Oscar, 34 for Chesser and a F2 for Liam Ryan

31

Liam Ryan

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

. We acquire Starcevich for our 2nd rounder this year and our/St kilda second rounder next year.

We also get granted an end of first round and a mid second round priority pick as per our request.
Leaves us with 1,2,15,19 and 28 (priority picks) 33, 34 and 51.

We trade 19, 28 and 33 for the gold coast pick 8. Trade pick 2 and 15 for 5 and 10 from Essendon
Leaves us with 1,5,8 and 10 and 34 if we want to use it
WC- Duursma
Ess- CDT
Rich - Robey
Rich - Lindsay
WC- Cumming
Ess- Taylor
Ess- Greeves
WC- Sharp
Saints - Phillapou/Grlj
WC- Dovaston/Shubert

 

[eaglevision]

Me being unrealistic for a second.
Ess trades Merret to Hawks for pick 10+ F1 and a good player. This becomes relevant a bit later lol.

We acquire pick 2 for Oscar, 34 for Chesser and a F2 for Liam Ryan. We acquire Starcevich for our 2nd rounder this year and our/St kilda second rounder next year.

We also get granted an end of first round and a mid second round priority pick as per our request.
Leaves us with 1,2,15,19 and 28 (priority picks) 33, 34 and 51.

We trade 19, 28 and 33 for the gold coast pick 8. Trade pick 2 and 15 for 5 and 10 from Essendon
Leaves us with 1,5,8 and 10 and 34 if we want to use it
WC- Duursma
Ess- CDT
Rich - Robey
Rich - Lindsay
WC- Cumming
Ess- Taylor
Ess- Greeves
WC- Sharp
Saints - Phillapou/Grlj
WC- Dovaston/Shubert

If it happened tomorrow I reckon top 10 looks like this:
1-Duursma (WCE)
2-Sharp (WCE)
3-Robey (RICH)
4-X Taylor (RICH)
5-Duff-Tytler (ESS)
6-Schubert (ESS)
7-Cumming (WCE)* pick trade with GCS
8-Phillipou (STK)
9-Grlj (HAW)
10-Lindsay (CARL)

 

[Hook461123]

Me being unrealistic for a second.
Ess trades Merret to Hawks for pick 10+ F1 and a good player. This becomes relevant a bit later lol.

We acquire pick 2 for Oscar, 34 for Chesser and a F2 for Liam Ryan. We acquire Starcevich for our 2nd rounder this year and our/St kilda second rounder next year.

We also get granted an end of first round and a mid second round priority pick as per our request.
Leaves us with 1,2,15,19 and 28 (priority picks) 33, 34 and 51.

We trade 19, 28 and 33 for the gold coast pick 8. Trade pick 2 and 15 for 5 and 10 from Essendon
Leaves us with 1,5,8 and 10 and 34 if we want to use it
WC- Duursma
Ess- CDT
Rich - Robey
Rich - Lindsay
WC- Cumming
Ess- Taylor
Ess- Greeves
WC- Sharp
Saints - Phillapou/Grlj
WC- Dovaston/Shubert

You had me until the 2&15 for 5 & 10 trade.
Don’t see the point in that.
There’s a much bigger talent gap between 2 and 5 then there is between 10 and 15.
Especially when 5 becomes 8 or 9

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

If it happened tomorrow I reckon top 10 looks like this:
1-Duursma (WCE)
2-Sharp (WCE)
3-Robey (RICH)
4-X Taylor (RICH)
5-Duff-Tytler (ESS)
6-Schubert (ESS)
7-Cumming (WCE)* pick trade with GCS
8-Phillipou (STK)
9-Grlj (HAW)
10-Lindsay (CARL)

I’d be happy with that. However if we missed out on Cumming and take Schubert, I’d look to get Dalton later

 

[kane249]

Sanders is a big disappointment. Not sure he plays 100 games

Can't get a proper look in under Bevo

Reckon hes going to be an inaugural Tassie player and be poached by them

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Might watch the Colts GF to see how Charlie & Harper go. Hope they have massive games.

https://archive.md/1UnF5

 

[Happy Mastenator]

2 different draft routes

Trades

• Pick 19, 33, 35 and STK F2 for GC pick 6
• pick 2 + 15 for ESS pick 4, 5 and F3

Scenario 1
1 Willem Duursma - Transition mid
4 Dyson sharp / Sam Cummings - inside Mid
5 Xavier Taylor / Jacob farrow - defender
6 Lachy Dovaston / Aidan Schubert / Noah hibbens - Fwd

Scenario 2
Trades
- Pick 19, 33, 35 and STK F2 for GC pick 6
1 Willem Duursma - transition - mid
2 CDT - ruck
6 Dyson sharp / Cummings - mid
15 I will be hoping for Dovaston but it will probably be barker or Oskar Taylor, best player available

Essendon don’t have pick 4 in the scenario where we get 2 for Oscar.

They have pick 5 and 6.

So have to factor in tigers taking two picks. Potentially being sharp and Cummings given they took big last year and will look to go mids this year.

 

[ziad]

Who is this A grade elite outsider that we have on our list?

Who is the A grade elite player we have?

 

[wirra44]

Might watch the Colts GF to see how Charlie & Harper go. Hope they have massive games.

https://archive.md/1UnF5

Doesn’t look like channel 7 are televising the colts game like years gone by. Where can you watch it?