Religion Bondi shooting - 16 confirmed dead at Jewish event

[Johnny Bananas]

Is there a problem with reading comprehension in this thread?

No, just with some posters. Those posters tend to be repeat offenders in this regard.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Because Zionist people are already using this attack as justification for Zionism and labelling anti-Zionism as antisemitism. The protesting is about pushing back against that appropriation. If you think it's about supporting the gunmen, then you're a sick individual.

I don't know what its about. I just think Bondi today could be interpreted poorly by those who lost loved ones.

 

[The Lobbster]

The son was on a terrorism watch list and people are speaking about tightening gun laws…

He obviously did things to alert the authority’s. Should have had a one way ticket back to the Middle East.

The son is an Australian citizen and was born here.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

I don't know what its about. I just think Bondi today could be interpreted poorly by those who lost loved ones.

Yes, it could. I'm pro-Palestine and I wouldn't have picked today to protest. But as far as I've seen, the protesters themselves were all Jewish, and for that reason they have a greater ability to speak in such circumstances than non-Jewish people like myself.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

The son was on a terrorism watch list and people are speaking about tightening gun laws…

He obviously did things to alert the authority’s. Should have had a one way ticket back to the Middle East.

Are you also in favour of deporting Anglo Australian citizens who have committed crimes back to Britain, even if they've never been there?

 

[Stumpy Pete]

Because Zionist people are already using this attack as justification for Zionism and labelling anti-Zionism as antisemitism. The protesting is about pushing back against that appropriation. If you think it's about supporting the gunmen, then you're a sick individual.

The woman who turned up with the Keffiyeh took exception to Israeli flags. Please tell us what evidence you have that people at the vigil were using it as an opportunity to justify Zionism.

If this about what was being said online or in the media she should have used those forums. Her decision to take it to the vigil is simply disgusting.

Regards

S. Pete

 

[SaintsSeptember]

But legitimately, what types of things get the son on there?

When ISIS was a big thing he was associating with groups that were on the radar.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Vehicles can.

And do.

Every week.

No they don’t. Vehicles are needed to transport people. Would Martin Bryant have killed 35 people in same amount of time if he had a knife?

 

[bzparkes]

One of the most prominent US political commentators at the time of the Iraq war called for the forced conversion of all Iraqi's to Christianity and if they refused they should be killed. George W Bush called the war a crusade by God's chosen nation.

Why is there a difference between that and terrorism?

The guy that started that war (Dubya) claimed the violence was being done on behalf of God, specificaly his god but its the same god for Jewsish people, Christian people and Islamic people.

You might not see that war as Christian violence but how do you know ISIS doesn't see it that way? It was that war that birthed them.

Well the main official reasoning for the Iraq war was WMDs, not for religious reasons. Maybe he did invoke the name of 'God', as all presidents do, but the Iraq invasion wasn't performed under religious pretenses.

Regardless of what ISIS 'thinks', they have proven to be nothing but disgusting, filthy individuals who ruthlessly enslave, torture and murder anyone in their path. There's no 'understanding' or 'reasoning' with such people.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

When I believe it’s the father goes down the son doesn’t even flinch and keeps on firing. That’s just so hard
to comprehend. Your dad is shot next to you and you don’t even try to help or see if he is still alive.

These are quite possibly the sickest people imaginable.

They were no doubt prepared to die and receive their reward in paradise. As long as their relatives don’t receive “pay for slay”.

 

[bzparkes]

Christianity?

What about it?

Do Christians shoot up Mosques and slaughter Muslims around the world on a weekly basis?

 

[bzparkes]

It does matter that she was Jewish.

She is part of the community that was attacked by terrorists yesterday.

That doesn't give her the right to interrupt a vigil for he 'Me, me, me!!!' moment.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

The woman who turned up with the Keffiyeh took exception to Israeli flags. Please tell us what evidence you have that people at the vigil were using it as an opportunity to justify Zionism.

I didn't make the claim that people at the vigil were doing that. I meant Zionists in general. And if you want evidence of that, here you go:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/14/opinion/bondi-beach-shooting.html

If this about what was being said online or in the media she should have used those forums. Her decision to take it to the vigil is simply disgusting.

So everything online should stay online? I'm afraid the world rarely works that way, and if you expect it to, that's being naive. As I've said above, I as a non-Jew wouldn't have used today to protest about Palestine, but I'll let Jewish people have their own conversation about what they consider appropriate within their community, it's not my conversation.

 

[bzparkes]

Are you also in favour of deporting Anglo Australian citizens who have committed crimes back to Britain, even if they've never been there?

I'm in favour of sending anyone who hates our way of life and actively tries to disrupt it to whatever country aligns with their morals and cultural beliefs, even if they were born here, regardless of ancestry.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Solving those issues will take generations and are extremely complex, but this is the first mass shooting we've had here in a long time and all the guns were legally owned. It's about preventing another act like this.

An overhaul of the Australia-wide weapons registry is urgently needed.

 

[ferball]

The son was on a terrorism watch list and people are speaking about tightening gun laws…

He obviously did things to alert the authority’s. Should have had a one way ticket back to the Middle East.

He was born in Australia, is an Australian citizen and his family aren't from the middle east anyway.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Supposedly there are Arabic web sites where Ahmed Al Ahmad is being described as a traitor.
I can't confirm. Can't read the stuff and its awkward with google translate.

 

[10571z]

Supposedly there are Arabic web sites where Ahmed Al Ahmad is being described as a traitor.
I can't confirm. Can't read the stuff and its awkward with google translate.

This sounds hard to believe

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Right on cue, I literally said 24 hours later the lies would start, now false videos are circulating on tiktok (they try to take them down but another comes up just as fast), saying they were idf soldiers that did the shooting, videos on it being an idf inside job etc, exactly like every other incident over the last 2 years.

Again, theres definitely no agenda for that side of the political spectrum though

 

[ferball]

The woman who turned up with the Keffiyeh took exception to Israeli flags. Please tell us what evidence you have that people at the vigil were using it as an opportunity to justify Zionism.

If this about what was being said online or in the media she should have used those forums. Her decision to take it to the vigil is simply disgusting.

Regards

S. Pete

Israel is a result of Zionism. By definition showing an Israeli flag is justifying Zionism.

 

[Drought Break]

I know it is early and the dust will settle, and a lot of what has been reported might not be true; but if they were on an ASIO watch list because they pledged loyalty to the IS, then perhaps ASIO need to do a little more than watching. Especially if one of them is on a visa and should be very easily dealt with.

We just brought back in isis brides who pledged loyalty to Isis. No way would Albo and Tony Perk ever deport a radical muslim. In fact has a radical Muslim ever been deported?

 

[kickazz]

10571z Really?

I mean if there's one thing I've learnt about what the Internet has become is that it a complete toilet and nothing should surprise.

(Quite of your post didn't work)

 

[Johnny Bananas]

I'm in favour of sending anyone who hates our way of life and actively tries to disrupt it to whatever country aligns with their morals and cultural beliefs, even if they were born here, regardless of ancestry.

Oh okay. So are you in favour of deporting Thomas Sewell to a nation more aligned with white Christian supremacy?

 

[Drought Break]

The woman who turned up with the Keffiyeh took exception to Israeli flags. Please tell us what evidence you have that people at the vigil were using it as an opportunity to justify Zionism.

If this about what was being said online or in the media she should have used those forums. Her decision to take it to the vigil is simply disgusting.

Regards

S. Pete

And we’re supposed to believe she’s actually Jewish. If so she’s a traitor to her people

 

[kickazz]

Right on cue, I literally said 24 hours later the lies would start, now false videos are circulating on tiktok (they try to take them down but another comes up just as fast), saying they were idf soldiers that did the shooting, videos on it being an idf inside job etc, exactly like every other incident over the last 2 years.

Again, theres definitely no agenda for that side of the political spectrum though

You are being either very naive or obtuse if you think it is a "that side of politics" issue.

Unverified bullshit on the Internet should just be ignored. Don't let it cause outrage