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[CarnTheScray]

I'm meeting lranian mates for brunch this morning.
They would be quite happy for DJT to end the regime there. How sad, can see where they are coming from.

They would also be quite happy if the US didn’t touch their country in the first place in the 1950s.

 

[faible]

I assume the Trump family are already looting the Venezuelan treasury.

Exxon employee of the month award on his way already, will sit nicely next to the one he got from Israel last month.

 

[pjcrows]

Trump said "Make Venezuela Great Again".

This is an SNL skit, surely.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

I'm meeting lranian mates for brunch this morning.
They would be quite happy for DJT to end the regime there. How sad, can see where they are coming from.

Iranians definitely deserve better leadership than the current Ayatollah and the Council of Mullahs that they currently have. They DON'T deserve someone subservient to Washington or Tel Aviv though - that would be a shitwards step.

 

[schneebly111]

I'm meeting lranian mates for brunch this morning.
They would be quite happy for DJT to end the regime there. How sad, can see where they are coming from.

The Iranians diaspora that’s mostly anti current regime were the supporters of the Shah who fled when he was deposed.

I would guess a lot of the opponents of Chavez/Maduro are similar. It seems as if support for the current government mostly comes from the poor, like most socialist movement in Latin America, and opposition from the wealthier classes.

Unfortunately the voice of poor Venezuelan working class is drowned out by wealthy expats

 

[GreyCrow]

All said this is clearly not an acceptable action, but I’m also not going to lose any sleep over a repressive dictator getting done in. Someone from his own country would have led a coupe against him at some point anyway.

I don’t have high hopes for it but maybe Venezuela might actually get a chance at a new beginning and a less repressive regime.

I'm meeting lranian mates for brunch this morning.
They would be quite happy for DJT to end the regime there. How sad, can see where they are coming from.

Ive always been an advocate that regime change must come from within ie Egypt . Having watched since the 70s the success (ironic) that has followed armed regime change by the Americans this opinion has been with me since

I had hoped the Iranians would start doing their own work - as it seems they are starting to do now

As to Venezuala I have seen the reports of Maduro and his alleged connection to criminal enterprises - but I am also reminded the US prosecuted a citizen they alleged was also a narco-terrorist.

If either Maduro or the Ayatollah of Rocknrolla needs to go then it starts from within

 

[ITCHY EYEBALLS]

 

[RCAB]

"It's not about oil."

 

[1990crow]

Trump would've made for a more realistic Hermann Goering in the Nuremberg movie than Russell Crowe. No acting needed.

 

[1990crow]

"It's not about oil."

Trump: it's about oil.
Conservativies: it's not about oil.

There's where we are at these days.

 

[GreyCrow]

This sub is fascinating for its anti-American pro dictator love.

Given the current regime in the US - isnt this an oxymoron

 

[Chief]

He didn’t go to war.

We don't know that yet.

 

[troybe]

 

[Quokka]

Seeing the picture of Maduro being led away after capture I was struck about how similar he looks to Saddam Hussein. And not just in appearance, I also remember “Mission Accomplished” and after a 6 week campaign to overthrow the Iraqi government in 2003 how “strong” Bush looked. And for a while he did, as the U.S. only took a few casualties in its war on Iraq.

But every year of the war after 2003 was bloodier, with 2007 being the worst year for U.S. casualties. It’s one thing to topple a government or kidnap a leader. But establishing control and winning hearts and minds in the long term is something the U.S. is not good at. As of now it looks as if the Venezuelan government (minus Maduro) and military is intact and not surrendering and Machado is not being installed into power.

So the result is one pissed off country and no oil reserves in U.S. hands.

Which is kind of perfect for Trump, he'll always have 'Mission Accomplished' followed by 'if only you let me have a third term then Venezuelan streets would have been paved with gold by now.'

I assume there's not likely to be extended fighting and casualties and so Trump gets to create a ****ing mess and then switch his attention when the next squirrel runs by.

 

[rumply]

 

[CarnTheScray]

This sub is fascinating for its anti-American pro dictator love. Are you all uni students, CCP employees or university/government workers? It would be fascinating to understand everyone’s backgrounds.

I do not support a foreign nation like it is my football team. I support ideals. If China goes against those ideals I will call them out. If the US does it I will do the same.

If you want to be surrounded by like minded pro US thinkers with no in depth knowledge of the outside world and those who turn a blind eye to what they do, you can go to a US-dominated forum like Reddit.

 

[Chadwiko]

This sub is fascinating for its anti-American pro dictator love. Are you all uni students, CCP employees or university/government workers? It would be fascinating to understand everyone’s backgrounds.

"Sub".

Nah mate this ain't reddit. Back to /r/conservative you go.

 

[Exquisite Hams]

Don’t dare have a different opinion…cue the abuse
Keyboard warriors in Aus are the experts in the intricacies of International affairs

Btw…the Oil has a lot to do with it…just wondering whether the fact 8 million Venezuelans have left the country carries any weight as well?

Yes it amazes me. Not worth continuing to post because this is clearly a closed shop where alternative ideas or views are squashed. Though it amazes me because the first thing I said was I don't think what Trump is doing here is a great idea.

But you make a good point - millions of Venezuelan, Mexican, Cuban, Iranian etc refugees. All countries Trump is trying to change leadership in. All countries Russia/China support.

This sub seems to be occupied by pro-China anti-US/Trump people. Does that mean they side with dictators who lead to millions of refugees exiting their country? I mean if the US is so bad why aren't their millions of refugees leaving? Oh and if Trump is a dictator why did he win a democratic election very clearly?

Of course one can't ask those questions, because the "group think" is well set. I look forward to the abuse and juvenile comments. Reminds me of my university politics days. Which is funny we did a catch up of the old Uni Council 20 years on in 2024. Those that represented views on this sub were stuck in government or university jobs complaining about how bad the system was, about 80% were divorced or never married, most were bitter AF. Then there was myself and the two other "Liberal" council members, all happily married, with multiple assets and a secure future. Anyway this has been fun, but off with the Mrs to look at a new Rolex and discuss our next investment property (12 and counting..)

 

[faible]

discuss our next investment property

Actual photo of the investment properties in question

 

[BomToydd]

Not worth continuing to post because this is clearly a closed shop where alternative ideas or views are squashed.

Should have stopped here

all happily married, with multiple assets and a secure future. Anyway this has been fun, but off with the Mrs to look at a new Rolex and discuss our next investment property (12 and counting..)

Cute fantasy though lol

 

[Chadwiko]

This sub seems to be occupied by pro-China anti-US/Trump people.

This isn't a subreddit.

Also, it's possible to be anti-Trump without being pro-China. Your feeble attempts at strawman arguments won't work here.

Oh and if Trump is a dictator why did he win a democratic election very clearly?

"Very clearly"? He didn't even get 50% of the popular vote. He won the election with 49.8% of the vote compared to Kamala who got 48.3%. The US electoral system is broken and the electoral college is far from democratic.

Of course one can't ask those questions, because the "group think" is well set.

Conservatives love to complain about "group think" and "cancel culture" and sit on their high horses acting like they're better than everyone... until you say something they disagree with like "trans women are women" or "Charlie Kirk was a bad person".

 

[Exquisite Hams]

Actual photo of the investment properties in question

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nah don't do so close to the beach. need to worry about climate change

 

[Exquisite Hams]

Very clearly"? He didn't even get 50% of the popular vote. He won the election with 49.8% of the vote compared to Kamala who got 48.3%. The US electoral system is broken and the electoral college is far from democratic.

well by this logic when are you overthrowing Albo and his 34% of the vote?

 

[QuietB]

Ive always been an advocate that regime change must come from within ie Egypt . Having watched since the 70s the success (ironic) that has followed armed regime change by the Americans this opinion has been with me since

I had hoped the Iranians would start doing their own work - as it seems they are starting to do now

As to Venezuala I have seen the reports of Maduro and his alleged connection to criminal enterprises - but I am also reminded the US prosecuted a citizen they alleged was also a narco-terrorist.

If either Maduro or the Ayatollah of Rocknrolla needs to go then it starts from within

Is Iran's problem their leadership or is Iran's problem that they refuse to bow to western (mostly USA) imperial will?

I don't think it even matters half the time for the common person who is in charge.

You could hardly build a credible case that the working (or unemployed) poor in the USA have it much better than anywhere else.

The USA want Iran on a leash because of oil and because of the power they have over the Straight of Hormuz.

The USA does not give a **** about their own people - they are hardly going to act in the interests of the Iranian people.

 

[GreyCrow]

Don’t dare have a different opinion…cue the abuse

Agreed. Calling people uni students aka immature is abuse and I am glad you called him out

Keyboard warriors in Aus are the experts in the intricacies of International affairs

Well those who dont watch Sky are

Btw…the Oil has a lot to do with it…just wondering whether the fact 8 million Venezuelans have left the country carries any weight as well?

Trump said it was about oil. What more do you want. This is 1970s oil imperialism wrote large