Do Carlton need to undertake a list rebuild?

[Robertio]

So who posted under the username Robertio saying "both sides had to let players go to save the cap"?
Someone else?

Looks like i was right but it's Sunday morning and i have no idea what i said days ago.

 

[HillToKing]

Looks like i was right but it's Sunday morning and i have no idea what i said days ago.

Right about what? You said both teams had to let players go, Saints43 asked which players did they let go and you responded with you didn't say they had to let anyone go.

Did GWS and Carlton have to let players go or not and if they did which players did they let go?

 

[Fadge]

Right about what? You said both teams had to let players go, Saints43 asked which players did they let go and you responded with you didn't say they had to let anyone go.

Did GWS and Carlton have to let players go or not and if they did which players did they let go?

It's pretty scary that Carlton had to 'let players go' to manage their cap, when they've peaked at a 13 win home and away season....

 

[Robertio]

Right about what? You said both teams had to let players go, Saints43 asked which players did they let go and you responded with you didn't say they had to let anyone go.

Did GWS and Carlton have to let players go or not and if they did which players did they let go?

They got rid of a few mate, Owies, Marchbank and there's ex GWS players playing everywhere so enjoy Silvagni as your list manager.

 

[Robertio]

It's pretty scary that Carlton had to 'let players go' to manage their cap, when they've peaked at a 13 win home and away season....

Think of something new mate for christs sake you've said that 100's of times before.

 

[Saints43]

They got rid of a few mate, Owies, Marchbank and there's ex GWS players playing everywhere so enjoy Silvagni as your list manager.

Hopefully we don't lose anyone of the quality of Owies or Marchbank because of SOSs crazy list management.
Especially 5 years after he finishes in the role.

Have you ever considered just admitting that you made something up because you wanted to win an anonymous internet argument?

 

[HillToKing]

They got rid of a few mate, Owies, Marchbank and there's ex GWS players playing everywhere so enjoy Silvagni as your list manager.

Owies who joined Carlton at the end of 2018 as a cat b rookie and only at the club with SOS in charge of the list for one season in 2019 had to be moved on to free up cap space?

 

[Robertio]

Hopefully we don't lose anyone of the quality of Owies or Marchbank because of SOSs crazy list management.
Especially 5 years after he finishes in the role.

Have you ever considered just admitting that you made something up because you wanted to win an anonymous internet argument?

Yes i have

Owies who joined Carlton at the end of 2018 as a cat b rookie and only at the club with SOS in charge of the list for one season in 2019 had to be moved on to free up cap space?

That's about right mate.

 

[Robertio]

Hopefully we don't lose anyone of the quality of Owies or Marchbank because of SOSs crazy list management.
Especially 5 years after he finishes in the role.

Have you ever considered just admitting that you made something up because you wanted to win an anonymous internet argument?

Jack Steele says hello.

 

[Saints43]

Jack Steele says hello.

He was replaced by a better player. The remit of the list manager.
Thanks SOS.

Like Curnow was by Ainsworth or TDK by Reidy or JSOS by... oh wait....

 

[Robertio]

He was replaced by a better player. The remit of the list manager.
Thanks SOS.

Like Curnow was by Ainsworth or TDK by Reidy or JSOS by... oh wait....

Nice, just kick your captain out great for team moral and go out and spend $1-7 mil on a ruckman who couldn't even beat the ruckman you already had.

 

[Saints43]

Nice, just kick your captain out great for team moral and go out and spend $1-7 mil on a ruckman who couldn't even beat the ruckman you already had.

Oh no, not nice!
Be nice to Vossy this year.
As they always say down at Princes Park "It is nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice"

 

[timokane]

Total rebuild in 2027.
Tipping a Blues spoon in 2027.
But 2026 its essendon.
Full rebuild for both but 2026 is essendons turn blues will follow suit in 2027

 

[Mr.X]

He was replaced by a better player. The remit of the list manager.
Thanks SOS.

Like Curnow was by Ainsworth or TDK by Reidy or JSOS by... oh wait....

This is the interesting part. On paper it does look like Carlton have gone backwards

The side however is a lot more balanced and less predictable

They’ll either improve or fall further.

 

[LeBronco]

Do Carlton need to enter a rebuild phase or do they need to get a new coach who has the capability to make the right tweaks and get the most out of the current list? You only have to look at Collingwood to see what can be achieved with the right coach at the helm remember they finished 17th before McRae arrived.

 

[JustaBattler]

Do Carlton need to enter a rebuild phase or do they need to get a new coach who has the capability to make the right tweaks and get the most out of the current list? You only have to look at Collingwood to see what can be achieved with the right coach at the helm remember they finished 17th before McRae arrived.

you cant tweak bkloke sliek Young/McGovern and Williams out of being soft cox M7 =- all you can do is pu tin replacements who were coming back from injury...and cross yoru finhgers.

 

[Randomizor]

Do Carlton need to enter a rebuild phase or do they need to get a new coach who has the capability to make the right tweaks and get the most out of the current list? You only have to look at Collingwood to see what can be achieved with the right coach at the helm remember they finished 17th before McRae arrived.

Nah they definitely need to rebuild, starting from their absolutely awful defence

 

[timokane]

Stagnant 2026 and 2027 full rebuild and spoon in 2028.

Then the mighty long road back finals in 2032 lets say

 

[THE_GUN]

Stagnant 2026 and 2027 full rebuild and spoon in 2028.

Then the mighty long road back finals in 2032 lets say

That would totally devastate all carlton supporters and will most likely mean 40+ years since last flag before being contenders again

 

[terrybull]

Stagnant 2026 and 2027 full rebuild and spoon in 2028.

Then the mighty long road back finals in 2032 lets say

What did Carlton do to improve from your 813 post to your 818 post?

 

[Mr.X]

Stagnant 2026 and 2027 full rebuild and spoon in 2028.

Then the mighty long road back finals in 2032 lets say

the next few weeks could confirm this.

A 0-4 start to the season will force more change at Carlton

 

[Yoda_]

Few good positive signs to look forward to from the game the other night.

Lord, Moir, Jagga, a fit Sam Walsh

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Sam Walsh

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, a rejuvenated Marc Pittonet

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with clear air in front of him.

I dont expect anything to eventuate in the 2026, nor 2027 but the seeds are being sowed