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List Mgmt. 2026 Trade/Contract Discussion

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• Liam Baker (27/1/98)
• Jake Waterman (6/5/98)
• Brandon Starcevich (24/7/99)
• Jack Hutchinson (10/11/01)
• Liam Duggan (11/12/96)
• Jack Graham (25/2/98)
• Tylar Young (5/9/98)
• Tom McCarthy (12/7/00)
• Brady Hough (5/3/03)
• Tyrell Dewar (27/3/04)
• Harley Reid (17/4/05)
• Bo Allan (16/02/06)
• Jobe Shanahan (2/8/06)
• Josh Lindsay (7/4/07)
• Willem Duursma (21/6/07)
• Cooper Duff-Tytler (22/8/07)
• Elliot Yeo (1/10/93)
• Tim Kelly (26/7/94)
• Matt Owies (19/3/97)
• Harry Edwards (1/10/00)
• Deven Robertson (30/6/01)
• Finn Macrae (13/3/02)
• Sandy Brock (14/12/02)
• Reuben Ginbey (10/9/04)
• Archer Reid (19/9/05)
• Hamish Davis (2/5/06)
• Tom Gross (15/9/06)
• Lucca Grego (15/9/06)
• Sam Allen (13/1/07)
• Tylah Williams (22/2/07)
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92)
• Tom Cole (28/5/97)
• Matt Flynn (13/9/97)
• Bailey Williams (17/4/00)
• Milan Murdock (30/6/00)
• Harry Schoenberg (21/2/01)
• Tyler Brockman (22/11/02)
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03)
• Jack Williams (1/12/03)
• Harry Barnett (22/1/04)
• Elijah Hewett (27/5/04)
• Noah Long (23/8/04)
• Ryan Maric (6/9/04)
• Clay Hall (12/5/05)
• Harvey Johnston (18/8/05)
• Jake Miles-Wrency (11/1/06)
• Jacob Newton (20/3/06)
• Malakai Champion (17/5/06)
• Fred Rodriguez (10/7/07)
 
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maverick001 said:
Top 2 pick now looking quite likely
So who are the most likely mids.
Edwards, Butler, anyone else?
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I'd rather split the pick and take the two best key defenders if they fall around said picks.

Dees might be interested in trading their two first rounders.

Both Snell and Ladbrook would be close to that valuation and provide a better return for overall team balance than a high-end midfielder.

We need to address our key backs now rather than just kick the can down the road and hope one falls into our lap.
 
Off Tap said:
I'd rather split the pick and take the two best key defenders if they fall around said picks.

Dees might be interested in trading their two first rounders.

Both Snell and Ladbrook would be close to that valuation and provide a better return for overall team balance than a high-end midfielder.

We need to address our key backs now rather than just kick the can down the road and hope one falls into our lap.
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Unknown ATM. The new end of 1st round compo pick.

If we trade pick 2 out of the top 5 then a bid generates an end of 1st, we dont get that?

This end of 1st compo pick will increase the value of pick 2, or any top 5 pick.

We wouldnt do that Ginbey 9 and Hewett 12 trade, as we would be trading pick 2 plus and end of 1st compo pick.

So splitting pick 2 would need to be for a very good deal. Much more than any previous deal for a top 5 pick.
 
Off Tap said:
I'd rather split the pick and take the two best key defenders if they fall around said picks.

Dees might be interested in trading their two first rounders.

Both Snell and Ladbrook would be close to that valuation and provide a better return for overall team balance than a high-end midfielder.

We need to address our key backs now rather than just kick the can down the road and hope one falls into our lap.
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I agree we need players like Snell and Ladbrook.

More importantly, we need another A-Grader midfielder. In order, Noah Williams, Arki Butler and Kody Edwards are more of a priority for me.

We need another way to land Mid R1 for Snell and Ladbrook.

Maybe on draft night trade our bonus pick (academy push back) and F2/F3????
 
eaglevision said:
It’s poor talent identification and overvaluation of players. Jetta, Redden and Yeo are the only recent (and recent is a push) trades where we got value for money. Vardy was free and played in a flag, a couple of FAs have been serviceable. Outside of that it’s been a total shit show recruiting delist scraps and overpaying for players perceived of better quality.

Someone mentioned the Richmond goggles, which are definitely in play here. Having a coach and list manager from the same old club is a poor decision when we are targeting players from that club.
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This is my huge criticism also. You’re literally taking elements from a dated ideology who have a soft opinion with their former club and now we have three of their players two of which we arguably overpaid for
 

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Mop said:
This is my huge criticism also. You’re literally taking elements from a dated ideology who have a soft opinion with their former club and now we have three of their players two of which we arguably overpaid for
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Exactly. The third no doubt we would have overpaid for too if they weren’t a free agent.
 
Off Tap said:
I'd rather split the pick and take the two best key defenders if they fall around said picks.

Dees might be interested in trading their two first rounders.

Both Snell and Ladbrook would be close to that valuation and provide a better return for overall team balance than a high-end midfielder.

We need to address our key backs now rather than just kick the can down the road and hope one falls into our lap.
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It’s a good draft for KPDs, I’d be reluctant to split our 1R when we can take two KPDs with our end 1R and 2R.

I’d add Hodgson to your list then there’s a couple of good WA options with our 3Rs if we ended up using one of those picks on a midfielder.
 
Off Tap said:
I'd rather split the pick and take the two best key defenders if they fall around said picks.

Dees might be interested in trading their two first rounders.

Both Snell and Ladbrook would be close to that valuation and provide a better return for overall team balance than a high-end midfielder.

We need to address our key backs now rather than just kick the can down the road and hope one falls into our lap.
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Carlton are also likely to want to split their pick
Port will need to be compensated via trade for Butters most likely - so clubs will be looking for first round picks to trade here too
May be a bit of demand for mid first round picks, so us splitting probably wont get a great deal

We should have an end of first and our second rounders anyway.
 
Where is the end of first coming from? I’ve seen this referenced a few times. Is this an assumed priority pick?
 
Obeanie1 said:
Unknown ATM. The new end of 1st round compo pick.

If we trade pick 2 out of the top 5 then a bid generates an end of 1st, we dont get that?

This end of 1st compo pick will increase the value of pick 2, or any top 5 pick.

We wouldnt do that Ginbey 9 and Hewett 12 trade, as we would be trading pick 2 plus and end of 1st compo pick.

So splitting pick 2 would need to be for a very good deal. Much more than any previous deal for a top 5 pick.
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100%. Any split would have to come in draft night AFTER bids.
 
I did a list review of our players who are out of contract this year with some mates yesterday.

The list rules changed so much I can’t keep up with it. It used to be that you couldn’t keep rookie listed players for longer than two years without re-drafting them. Does anyone know, after a player, like Champion, has been on our Rookie List for two years, do we still have to either promote or delist him and then re-draft him if we want to just retain him on our RL?
 

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Mighty Eagles said:
I did a list review of our players who are out of contract this year with some mates yesterday.

The list rules changed so much I can’t keep up with it. It used to be that you couldn’t keep rookie listed players for longer than two years without re-drafting them. Does anyone know, after a player, like Champion, has been on our Rookie List for two years, do we still have to either promote or delist him and then re-draft him if we want to just retain him on our RL?
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Three years is the default now, and I think you can have a fourth without being delisted if you’ve played less than a handful of games.

Hutchinson is probably the only one needing promotion this year.

Edit: actually you can get a fourth and even fifth year if you’ve played less than ten games. And it looks like the half-year after being taken in the MSD doesn’t count, so Hutchinson could actually have a third full year next year if need be.

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Miguel Sanchez said:
Three years is the default now, and I think you can have a fourth without being delisted if you’ve played less than a handful of games.

Hutchinson is probably the only one needing promotion this year.

Edit: actually you can get a fourth and even fifth year if you’ve played less than ten games. And it looks like the half-year after being taken in the MSD doesn’t count, so Hutchinson could actually have a third full year next year if need be.

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This is solid - thank you.

There is likely to be six to eight retirements/delistings off the senior list this year. If the National Draft is on track to be normal in terms of depth, surely we will only want to use five picks. Therefore wouldn’t we be inclined to promote Robertson and one of Murdock or Hutch.
 
AndysAngels said:
2028 R1 team:

Hough Reid Starcevich
McCarthy Ginbey Lindsay
Allan Harley Duursma
Hewett Shanahan N. Williams
Waterman Walter Champion
CDT Warner DevRob

Baker Davis Graham Murdock B. Williams

Depth: Allen, T. Williams, Neale, Newton, Hutchinson, Young, Gross, Grego etc
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Good team. I’ll dabble in a few changes based off your template.

I haven’t seen anything to suggest the club will send Archer back so I would move him to the bench as second ruck in place of BW (as much as I like Baz). He will be in his fifth year by then, CDT will be third year so would probably even have Archer as first ruck with a more mature frame. Butts UFA this year, get him into full back.

Hopefully we draft another couple of B23 players this year, but no idea who they will be so I’ll leave out N Williams and move Baker from bench to half forward.

Davis, Graham and Murdock would hopefully be depth by then. Dev is already an upgrade on Graham, don’t really need both. There will be younger versions that become available anyway eg Alex Davies currently dropped, or someone similar like we were sniffing around Erasmus last year. Maybe one of the others stays in as a role player. I’ll give it to Murdock for versatility.

If we get Neale on a two year deal he will probably still hold his spot in 2028.

I think there’s something there with Gross, so he can squeeze in.

I also wouldn’t be mad to lose one of Waterman or Archer and bring in Georgiades in their place, so with Waterman 30+ by then, he can go.

I’d love to throw Kozzy into the mix after seeing him rep WA but even if he does flirt with moving like every other year, his price would be enormous with his current form and being held to contract. So I’ll leave him out and keep it realistic.

2028 R1 team:

B: Hough Butts Starcevich
HB: McCarthy Ginbey Lindsay
C: Allan Harley Duursma
HF: Hewett Shanahan Baker
F: Walter Georgiades Champion
Foll: CDT Warner Davies

I/C: Neale DevRob Gross Murdock AReid
 

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twce13 said:
Sure but while his team mates are ball watching he is literally working his ass off in all directions. Poor bloke, I dunno how some of his team mates look him in the eye.
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Exactly. Would love to see him as a third tall with more freedom to intercept and run around like a madman. And to be fair that’s what would’ve been the vision with a fit Edwards and Young playing better. Kudos to Reubs for stepping up, it would be very ugly back there without him.
 
eaglevision said:
It’s poor talent identification and overvaluation of players. Jetta, Redden and Yeo are the only recent (and recent is a push) trades where we got value for money.
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Jetta and Redden were also poor when they first came across.

They were really the ones that started the whole "it takes a while for players from other clubs to get used to our systems" argument.

They started to click in 2017 (Jetta was excellent late that season and into the final vs Port once we shifted him to defence) and Redden had a fantastic 2018.
 
Ambrose Burnside said:
Jetta and Redden were also poor when they first came across.

They were really the ones that started the whole "it takes a while for players from other clubs to get used to our systems" argument.

They started to click in 2017 (Jetta was excellent late that season and into the final vs Port once we shifted him to defence) and Redden had a fantastic 2018.
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Schultz, Bolton, Houston plenty of current examples too
 
Ambrose Burnside said:
Jetta and Redden were also poor when they first came across.

They were really the ones that started the whole "it takes a while for players from other clubs to get used to our systems" argument.

They started to click in 2017 (Jetta was excellent late that season and into the final vs Port once we shifted him to defence) and Redden had a fantastic 2018.
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They were but when you look at their contribution to WCE across their career here both were good value trades, we haven’t had another since.
 
We have 2 untried midfielders in Fred and Sam Allen, they both may be very good.
We need to draft another Ruck the best we can, or trade/free agency for an experienced ruck.
Also need another KPD.
They should be our priorities.
Warner will probably come to bolster our midfield in a couple of years.
Ruckman and KP players take years to develop, we must start now.
I see a number of have CDT have as our main ruck next year, what if he gets injured? Go back to Flynn, Williams?
Drafting CDT was a good decision given our ruck woes, but we need a long term plan and another ruckman on our list as an absolute priority.
 
Interesting to hear Jordan Clark say that he wanted to go to the Eagles but they had no interest in him whatsoever, so Fremantle was his only option to come home. What a joke our club has been in recent years.
 

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