AFL Player 1: Andrew "Pidge" McGrath (vc) - The skip we didn't know we needed

[Beerfish]

Contract Status: Unrestricted Free Agent 2030
My Boy Draft 2024: Pick 13, Vindicater

 

[84859300]

Using super coach as a indicator is certainly the way to go

Meh - I know plenty of self proclaimed "itk posters" who still refer to the numbers in SC.

 

[bacon buster]

Using super coach as a indicator is certainly the way to go

It's an indicator. All stats are a model or indicator of performance right?

The problem with picking a particular model as the "right" or "best" one, is when you ignore results the model provides that don't suit your argument(s)

The disconnect with McGrath is that people can "see" the actual turnovers and horrendous disposal. This is countered with "he is the 3rd rated player on the ground" from a particular model. Those 2 groups of people are never going to see eye to eye

 

[Skipper_]

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that he looked worse when all our midfielders were <182cm tall.

It’s pretty much the reason he was moved out as we simply couldn’t run him with Shiel, Merrett and Parish.

 

[Foxx]

Nope. I was just questioning where the 3rd ranked player came from

I was at the game and I based my judgement on what I saw.

Champion Data.

 

[bombadeer]

Ranked #1 at putting teammates under pressure and his ability to dispose of the footy like it's a hot potatoe is right up there with the best..

Is that a stat or are you being facetious?

 

[ant555]

It's an indicator. All stats are a model or indicator of performance right?

The problem with picking a particular model as the "right" or "best" one, is when you ignore results the model provides that don't suit your argument(s)

The disconnect with McGrath is that people can "see" the actual turnovers and horrendous disposal. This is countered with "he is the 3rd rated player on the ground" from a particular model. Those 2 groups of people are never going to see eye to eye

Not a total indicator as it does not include several other stats.
You do not know off super coach if McGrath conutered a few turn overs with his effort as far as DHPA or ability to negate at stoppage. The AFL ranking uses all the stats.

Finally there are a group of people that focus that much on the few mistakes a player makes because they have pre concieved ideas about what they are going to be looking at so a different standard is used compared to other players. Sometime the eye has blinkers on or carries pre concieved bias.

I have not seen the game so I have no informed comment either way this week
I do not disagree that McGrath is good for at least 3 or 4 ordinary turnovers a game.
And read the emojis. I was not having a serious dig

For the record and for anyone to comment on
#1 goal assists
#4 disposals
#34 tackles
#8 clearances
#16 meters gained
#5 inside 50
#20 score involvements
#10 intercept possessions
#2 contested possessions
#10 clangers
#4 effective disposals
#20 kicking efficiency
#13 effective kicks
#18 turnovers
#3 Ground Ball Gets
#7 pressure acts
#6 defensive half pressure acts

 

[I Remember Bluey]

Is that a stat or are you being facetious?

With McGrath - Yes Yes it is a stat

 

[carloss]

Watch the first minute of Carlton game to see our vice-captain set the standard.

 

[maskmcgee]

Well he outlasted his 'shoe-in' opponent for the 2017 rising star, Ryan Burton

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Ryan Burton

Age

28

Ht

191cm

Wt

92kg

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Def

Career

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Last 5

D

18.5

5star

K

12.1

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HB

6.3

4star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.1

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MG

277.3

4star

D

16.8

4star

K

12.3

5star

HB

4.5

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

1.0

2star

MG

277.3

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D

13.4

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K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.2

4star

delisted

 

[Yoda_]

can see why hes rated highly as a leader in this clip

particularly like the ending where he asks Jack Higgins about "Nuey" (Jayden Nguyen)

 

[NAB777]

You can throw as many stats as you like...this guy has no composure or poise.

 

[Foxx]

You can throw as many stats as you like...this guy has no composure or poise.

But has a better bottom line than players that look pretty.

 

[katana]

You can throw as many stats as you like...this guy has no composure or poise.

i really hate the idea that he's going to end up in midfield again. he is an absolute liability in physical tight contested situations. mcgrath has enough strengths that surely there's a role for him on the field without having to go back to the well of playing him on ball which failed so dismally last time.

 

[ghostdog]

Took my loss-rage out on Andy early in the season. Moving up the ground later in the season gave a reason to keep him for now. We do need experienced seniors. Can't trade or delist everyone.
This stat is a positive for him. I'll withold my want to be rid of him for now.

(for those who can't view the instagram post: "A fun little fact - Andrew McGrath

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Andrew Mcgrath

Age

27

Ht

180cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.7

5star

K

11.6

4star

HB

11.1

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

6.4

5star

MG

252.9

4star

D

22.7

5star

K

11.6

4star

HB

11.1

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

6.4

5star

MG

252.9

4star

D

22.0

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

11.0

5star

M

1.2

2star

T

6.4

5star

MG

219.0

4star

is the 2025 survivor (one on one defenders not outmarked), being undefeated in 22 contests via The Agenda Setters (7+)")

 

[jdstorm]

i really hate the idea that he's going to end up in midfield again. he is an absolute liability in physical tight contested situations. mcgrath has enough strengths that surely there's a role for him on the field without having to go back to the well of playing him on ball which failed so dismally last time.

Defensive HF is really the only role left to try him.

I think playing for Essendon with our poor Contested marking does hurt him somewhat as on a team with decent marking targets he just dumps to them and it works out okay.

 

[SpeckieMcVeigh]

Took my loss-rage out on Andy early in the season. Moving up the ground later in the season gave a reason to keep him for now. We do need experienced seniors. Can't trade or delist everyone.
This stat is a positive for him. I'll withold my want to be rid of him for now.

(for those who can't view the instagram post: "A fun little fact - Andrew McGrath is the 2025 survivor (one on one defenders not outmarked), being undefeated in 22 contests via The Agenda Setters (7+)")

I saw him outmarked in one on ones a bunch of times, and that was only after I started paying attention around midseason when the stat was originally shared.

 

[ghostdog]

Took my loss-rage out on Andy early in the season. Moving up the ground later in the season gave a reason to keep him for now. We do need experienced seniors. Can't trade or delist everyone.
This stat is a positive for him. I'll withold my want to be rid of him for now.

(for those who can't view the instagram post: "A fun little fact - Andrew McGrath is the 2025 survivor (one on one defenders not outmarked), being undefeated in 22 contests via The Agenda Setters (7+)")

Cheers, Mods

 

[Skipper_]

Congrats on the promotion Andy

 

[MightyDon]

Congrats on the promotion Andy

Now this is rock bottom

 

[yehhhhbra]

If Zach goes and McGrath officially becomes captain I’m done

 

[cobra land]

He's going to do a Steven Bradbury isn't he....

 

[Goat Hird]

At least we won't have to worry about other clubs trying to recruit him.

 

[Vander18]

McGrath cannot be Captain.

Hopefully Durham or Caldwell are up to it. Both lead by example but don’t know much about them beyond that.

If needed do a Hodge to Brisbane style deal and trade someone in to do the job.

 

[Wahooti Fandango]

 

[BOMBERBLITZ]