Player Watch #13: Orazio Fantasia - A few boxes to tick before being declared available - 23/7

Mr Mojo Risin

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This draft isn't strong. It’s similar to the Kavanagh draft. Last year's was stronger
So only containing s**t players like Coniglio, Wingard, Haynes, Mitchell, Clay Smith, Lachie Neale, B. Hill, Hamling, Yeo, Devon Smith, Greene, Hoskin-Elliott and Patton?

Yeah crap draft, not to mention Bootsma! :p
 

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eth-dog

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So only containing s**t players like Coniglio, Wingard, Haynes, Mitchell, Clay Smith, Lachie Neale, B. Hill, Hamling, Yeo, Devon Smith, Greene, Hoskin-Elliott and Patton?

Yeah crap draft, not to mention Bootsma! :p
Compare that to an actual strong draft of the year before:

Swallow, Gaff, Polec, Caddy, Heppell, Prestia, Lynch, Brodie Smith, Isaac Smith, Wallis, Guthrie, Jamie Cripps, Darling, Lycett, Howe, Parker, Libba, McDonald, Lyons, Puopolo, Jenkins, Jonas, Ed Curnow, Dahlhaus, Johannisen and McGovern.
 

Mr Mojo Risin

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Compare that to an actual strong draft of the year before:

Swallow, Gaff, Polec, Caddy, Heppell, Prestia, Lynch, Brodie Smith, Isaac Smith, Wallis, Guthrie, Jamie Cripps, Darling, Lycett, Howe, Parker, Libba, McDonald, Lyons, Puopolo, Jenkins, Jonas, Ed Curnow, Dahlhaus, Johannisen and McGovern.
Oh yeah no doubt the year before was stronger, but 2011 wasn't exactly complete s**t.

Ed Curnow....really?
 

TheGreatBarryB

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Compare that to an actual strong draft of the year before:

Swallow, Gaff, Polec, Caddy, Heppell, Prestia, Lynch, Brodie Smith, Isaac Smith, Wallis, Guthrie, Jamie Cripps, Darling, Lycett, Howe, Parker, Libba, McDonald, Lyons, Puopolo, Jenkins, Jonas, Ed Curnow, Dahlhaus, Johannisen and McGovern.
But 2011 also had guys like Treloar, Shiel, Cameron, Nathan Wilson who were part of the twelve 17 yo taken at end of 2010. They would have been eligible for 2011 draft
 

Matthew_Lloyd

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He won't be letting anyone forget in 6 years time when Fantasia asks to be traded
My thoughts exactly. For all we know, Orazio may request a trade to Port when he is in his late twenties and has achieved all he can with us (multiple premierships hopefully).

Horrible article and pathetic backtracking from that flog who "broke" the story.
 

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yaco55

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If he did want to go, that wouldnt be enough for us in my opinion. Hes contracted til the end of 2021 so we would have the upper hand in negotiations. We've got a bit of youth on the list, and i would actually prefer an established player while Hooker and Hurley have still got footy in them. Wines straight swap seems about right. But Raz wants to stay so doesnt matter.
Clubs don't have the upper hand anymore when contracted players want to leave - Fantasia should be rated higher but the FACT is he unable to consistently get on the park for the last two years to show his true form.
 

Bjchan13

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Clubs don't have the upper hand anymore when contracted players want to leave - Fantasia should be rated higher but the FACT is he unable to consistently get on the park for the last two years to show his true form.
They do have an upper hand when the player is still under contract. Carlton with bryce gibbs and Geelong with Tim Kelly are examples from last trade period. If Essendon arent satisfied, they just play Fantasia til the end of his contract in 2021. Then after that if he still wants to go via free agency we take the compo pick.
 

JT_the_Man

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If he did want out I don’t think Raz would have any issue with playing out the contract. Also gives us another year to change his mind about leaving.
 

jmoo wan

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Not sure why people keep putting FACT in capital letters. Probably seen it a half dozen times in the last 24 hours (not just on this board mind you). It's like everyone is so used to Trump's "fake news" and "facts" that now we have to have FACTS to compensate.
I thought @FACT was a new moderator over on the hawthorne boards, and DERO ’s new nemesis
 

Bunk Moreland

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You can’t really judge personal situations from the outside but really... the bloke has just signed a contract for his very lucrative career... as he said that shows where he wants to be etc.

His girlfriend is 19 apparently? We’re talking Adelaide to Melbourne, an hour by plane or 8 hours by car...

I’m not sure he’ll be the one making the move.
 

Lore

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Not sure this means anything, but he's deleted every photo from his Instagram account
It was hacked about a week ago according to Raz when he was on the Don Air podcast. It's since been moved to private and as you say the posts have been deleted, though I'm not sure by who.
 
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