Draft Review 2008 - Re-do the 2008 draft

[The Bomb]

Serious

Cotchin is over-rated and has little hurt factor to his game. Would take Beams before Cotchin.

It would be very interesting to put Cotchin alongside Pendles and Swan and put Beams alongside Delidio and Martin.
Beams tagged week in week out like Cotchin.

 

[pieman123]

It would be very interesting to put Cotchin alongside Pendles and Swan and put Beams alongside Delidio and Martin.
Beams tagged week in week out like Cotchin.

Beams was tagged a fair bit in 2012 when opposition teams realised the other 2 were untaggable and he still dominated.

 

[Daz]

It would be very interesting to put Cotchin alongside Pendles and Swan and put Beams alongside Delidio and Martin.
Beams tagged week in week out like Cotchin.

Cotchin was barely tagged all year.

 

[HighettBomber]

Although he was taken in the rookie draft, surely Luke Breust is in the top 20 in that draft? I'd have him ahead of Anthony, Watts, Roughead and Walters.

Walters is just about the best small forward in the game, Breust is good and was a great rookie pick up and maybe should be listed in the top 20, but he is nowhere near as good as Michael Walters.

 

[Pykie]

I honestly think Zaharakis is behind quite a few in this draft, let alone discussing Zaharakis vs Beams.

His numbers don't stack up for the role he plays, and his kicking isn't his strongest asset, whilst it's improved since juniors, it's not as good as others.

Zaharakis 22d, 0.5 goals, 3.1 tckls, 3.1 clearances, 3.8 I50, 8.2 contested
Hartlett - 20d, 0.8 goals, 4 tckles, 3 clearances, 3.8 I50, 7.7 Contested.
Shuey - 21d, 0.6 goals, 4.8 tckles, 4.2 clearances, 3.7 I50, 8.7 contested
Ziebell - 21d, 1.1 goals, 5.3 tckles, 5.4 clearances, 3.6 I50, 11.2 contested
Rich - 18d, 0.8 goals, 2.8 tckles, 3.9 clearances, 5 I50, 9.1 contested
Redden - 21d, 0.4 goals, 6.3 tackles, 4.0 clearances, 2.8 I50, 9.0 contested
Sloan - 23d, 0.6 goals, 3.9 tackles, 4.0 clearances, 3.9 I50, 11.0 contested
Hanneberry - 25d, 0.6 goals, 2.8 tackles, 3.1 clearances, 3.5 I50, 10.1 contested

The rest are alot closer than people think, more the case of being in stronger midfield units imo.

 

[loki04]

Beams was tagged a fair bit in 2012 when opposition teams realised the other 2 were untaggable and he still dominated.

There was also a block of games in 2012 when Beams was the number 1 banana due to injury's plus Swan's club imposed suspension and he still killed it.

 

[loki04]

I honestly think Zaharakis is behind quite a few in this draft, let alone discussing Zaharakis vs Beams.

His numbers don't stack up for the role he plays, and his kicking isn't his strongest asset, whilst it's improved since juniors, it's not as good as others.

Zaharakis 22d, 0.5 goals, 3.1 tckls, 3.1 clearances, 3.8 I50, 8.2 contested
Hartlett - 20d, 0.8 goals, 4 tckles, 3 clearances, 3.8 I50, 7.7 Contested.
Shuey - 21d, 0.6 goals, 4.8 tckles, 4.2 clearances, 3.7 I50, 8.7 contested
Ziebell - 21d, 1.1 goals, 5.3 tckles, 5.4 clearances, 3.6 I50, 11.2 contested
Rich - 18d, 0.8 goals, 2.8 tckles, 3.9 clearances, 5 I50, 9.1 contested
Redden - 21d, 0.4 goals, 6.3 tackles, 4.0 clearances, 2.8 I50, 9.0 contested
Sloan - 23d, 0.6 goals, 3.9 tackles, 4.0 clearances, 3.9 I50, 11.0 contested
Hanneberry - 25d, 0.6 goals, 2.8 tackles, 3.1 clearances, 3.5 I50, 10.1 contested

The rest are alot closer than people think, more the case of being in stronger midfield units imo.

Now throw in Beams and Sidebottom for interest sake.

 

[Carlo]

Beams is head and shoulders above, Cotchin, Zaka and Sidebottom.

Beams
Cotchin
Sidebottom
Zaka

Zaharakis is soft and until he figures out how to play good when the team isn't he will never be at the level of a Beams.

 

[Pykie]

Now throw in Beams and Sidebottom for interest sake.

Sidebottom - 24d, 0.9 goals, 3.2 tckls, 2.0 clearances, 2.4 I50, 7.6 contested.
Beams - 28d, 0.8 goals, 3.9 tckls, 6.8 clearances, 4.4 I50, 12.9 contested.

Only 8 midfielders in the league averaged over 20 disposals and over a goal a game:

Jack Ziebell, Patrick Dangerfield, Daniel Wells, Dustin Martin, Gary Ablett Jnr, Harley Bennell and Brent Harvey.

 

[Wild Bill]

Sidebottom - 24d, 0.9 goals, 3.2 tckls, 2.0 clearances, 2.4 I50, 7.6 contested.
Beams - 28d, 0.8 goals, 3.9 tckls, 6.8 clearances, 4.4 I50, 12.9 contested.

Only 8 midfielders in the league averaged over 20 disposals and over a goal a game:

Jack Ziebell, Patrick Dangerfield, Daniel Wells, Dustin Martin, Gary Ablett Jnr, Harley Bennell and Brent Harvey.

Are these stats from the start of their career?

 

[loki04]

Sidebottom - 24d, 0.9 goals, 3.2 tckls, 2.0 clearances, 2.4 I50, 7.6 contested.
Beams - 28d, 0.8 goals, 3.9 tckls, 6.8 clearances, 4.4 I50, 12.9 contested.

Only 8 midfielders in the league averaged over 20 disposals and over a goal a game:

Jack Ziebell, Patrick Dangerfield, Daniel Wells, Dustin Martin, Gary Ablett Jnr, Harley Bennell and Brent Harvey.

Geez Beamsy' ave numbers are impressive, even better then I thought they were tbh.

 

[timtamWB]

Although he was taken in the rookie draft, surely Luke Breust is in the top 20 in that draft? I'd have him ahead of Anthony, Watts, Roughead and Walters.

Lineball with Walters, I'd have him above Davis, not above Roughead (maybe some bias ) and above Broadbent. But he definitely should be around 15th.

 

[RobbyRoy]

Although he was taken in the rookie draft, surely Luke Breust is in the top 20 in that draft? I'd have him ahead of Anthony, Watts, Roughead and Walters.

Indeed he should be there; an oversight on my part. Edited.

 

[blaisee]

Beams is a star, but Cotchin is another level again

 

[pieman123]

Beams is a star, but Cotchin is another level again

How? Beams has him covered in alot of areas, the only thing i can think of is that Cotchin is faster/more explosive thats about it.

 

[Underdog]

You guys are just going around in circles over subjective semantics. Ultimately it doesn't matter. They are both terrific footballers who would be amongst any teams best players.

 

[coniglio_number1]

That sort of understanding and positivity has no place on bigfooty underdog

 

[the distributer]

Beams is a star, but Cotchin is another level again

Lol, based on what? Was it the 6 goals Cotchin kicked last year? Delusional.

 

[blaisee]

Lol, based on what? Was it the 6 goals Cotchin kicked last year? Delusional.

well leaving stats aside, one is a leader, and captain, and one is not

 

[the distributer]

well leaving stats aside, one is a leader, and captain, and one is not

One is capable of severely hurting teams, and one is not.

Also, Nick Maxwell is a leader, is he a better player than Stevie J?

One will only ask to leave stats aside when they don't suit their argument, and based on Stats Cotchin isn't fit to lick Beamers thong jam.

 

[blaisee]

One is capable of severely hurting teams, and one is not.

Also, Nick Maxwell is a leader, is he a better player than Stevie J?

One will only ask to leave stats aside when they don't suit their argument, and based on Stats Cotchin isn't fit to lick Beamers thong jam.

why would that be ?

 

[the distributer]

why would that be ?

Not worth discussing this if you can't work it out, it's off topic anyway, moving on.

 

[blaisee]

Not worth discussing this if you can't work it out, it's off topic anyway, moving on.

how convenient

run along little boy

 

[Wargreymon90]

Cotchin was 2007 draft guys

 

[SizeMatters]

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He should be IMO top 3 of the draft so far.