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2014 Non-Crows AFL Discussion

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I'm suprised this hasn't rated a mention, Under 15s get in for free to Sunday Melbourne games. Only Melbourne, is this a National Competition or not?


I reckon you'll find it has something to do with the 100,000 seat stadium that is never close to being filled up on average non-blockbuster Sunday games... and all the Docklands games (I imagine) will be St Kilda, Western Bulldogs & North Melbourne games....

The only time I've ever pre-purchased tickets in Melbourne has been for finals games. Otherwise I just rock up at the gate on the day and buy general admission and sit in the nosebleeds - Would any of you risk just rocking up to the gate at game day at Adelaide Oval to buy a ticket? It's only because that this access is possible that kids are getting in for free on Sundays -

And as others have pointed out, it many ways kids are already free under a 'family ticket' deal.

There's nothing like feeling persecuted, is there?

I mean, there is enough genuine 'oh it's still the VFL' issues occuring to complain about without bringing up tedious things like this...
 

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I reckon you'll find it has something to do with the 100,000 seat stadium that is never close to being filled up on average non-blockbuster Sunday games... and all the Docklands games (I imagine) will be St Kilda, Western Bulldogs & North Melbourne games....

The only time I've ever pre-purchased tickets in Melbourne has been for finals games. Otherwise I just rock up at the gate on the day and buy general admission and sit in the nosebleeds - Would any of you risk just rocking up to the gate at game day at Adelaide Oval to buy a ticket? It's only because that this access is possible that kids are getting in for free on Sundays -

And as others have pointed out, it many ways kids are already free under a 'family ticket' deal.

There's nothing like feeling persecuted, is there?

I mean, there is enough genuine 'oh it's still the VFL' issues occuring to complain about without bringing up tedious things like this...
Shit I didn't realise the MCG was bigger. I also didn't realise it's increased its capacity for 2015.

As for tedious, I've read your stance on many topics over recent years, each of us has a different opinion on what we find important.
 
So you want the Crows to start letting kids under 15 in for free? Is that an important issue for you at this time?
I want the kids in Victoria to have to pay just like the kids in WA, SA, NSW and QLD do.

As for an important issue, it's an issue which I am passing comment on, would you prefer we only discuss issues you find of interest?
 
Well, you said it was an important issue, so I was just trying to gauge what your level of importance was. I wasn't trying to say anything by that..




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but really... it has nothing to do with the A(V)FL favouring Melbourne clubs... There are plenty of legitimate gripes you can have in the game re: A(V)FL aspects ... but letting kids in for free at the 'G on a Sunday isn't one of them...


I guess that was my initial gripe over your comment. Not so much your view that it was 'unfair', but more that you put it to VFL favouring ....
 
Of course it's VFL favouring, we've had crowd issues in nearly every state. Have kids got in for free?
 
Lets not forget that all this talk about Melbourne teams getting bigger crowds is a bit of poop.
We played Hawthorn in front of 11k at the G in 2004. Sure they were poop but imagine what the same teams would say if we only got 11k to turn up at AO? And there would have been a number of Port supporters amongst those 11,000 spectators.
 
Of course it's VFL favouring, we've had crowd issues in nearly every state. Have kids got in for free?


alex has already stated earlier that he got free tickets for his students to Tealster matches when they had the tarps.

NSW and QLD would give away lots of tickets to games...

Did you just choose to ignore that?
 
look, I don't actually want to argue the point about whether or not it's 'fair' that kids in Melbourne get into games on SUnday for free... I really don't care...

but don't call it VFL favouring when it's not actually there... in this case anyway...
 

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alex has already stated earlier that he got free tickets for his students to Tealster matches when they had the tarps.

NSW and QLD would give away lots of tickets to games...

Did you just choose to ignore that?
Port gave away tickets not the AFL.
 
look, I don't actually want to argue the point about whether or not it's 'fair' that kids in Melbourne get into games on SUnday for free... I really don't care...

but don't call it VFL favouring when it's not actually there... in this case anyway...
I can call it what I want, you've shown me nothing to the contrary.
 
Port gave away tickets not the AFL.

I have not looked into this other tham what's been said on this but is it the AFL giving the tickets away, the stadium or specific clubs?

Is it a case of, every Sunday game in Melbourne - kids under 15 get in free? is it that simple.
 
Look, this would be a massive disadvantage to the 2 SA and 2 WA clubs. However, I'd be very disappointed if I lived Sydney or Queensland and this offer was not given to those families.

Especially GWS and the Lions.
It shouldn't be a disadvantage, the AFL should be reimbursing our clubs and offering free entry to U15 here also. You can't tell me that Collingwood would be giving away tickets to something they previously sold and not be compensated.
 

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It shouldn't be a disadvantage, the AFL should be reimbursing our clubs and offering free entry to U15 here also. You can't tell me that Collingwood would be giving away tickets to something they previously sold and not be compensated.

Would not have a clue.
 
look, I don't actually want to argue the point about whether or not it's 'fair' that kids in Melbourne get into games on SUnday for free... I really don't care...

but don't call it VFL favouring when it's not actually there... in this case anyway...

Anyone ever told you you're a knob?
 
It shouldn't be a disadvantage, the AFL should be reimbursing our clubs and offering free entry to U15 here also. You can't tell me that Collingwood would be giving away tickets to something they previously sold and not be compensated.
I think there is some merit in your argument when considering it in context of the competition for future generation members.

It gives the melb clubs an enormous leg up in terms of getting kids to games who might not have otherwise gone.

My son goes regularly and when we have to start paying we will. Our 2 daughters are quite different, they are 50/50 about going to the Crows. We are not paying in advance for them to go because they can change their mind weekly.

If they were free then we would continue to encourage. But as it stands they are effectively lost now. In Melb they might still turn into regular followers as adults.
 
I think there is some merit in your argument when considering it in context of the competition for future generation members.

It gives the melb clubs an enormous leg up in terms of getting kids to games who might not have otherwise gone.

My son goes regularly and when we have to start paying we will. Our 2 daughters are quite different, they are 50/50 about going to the Crows. We are not paying in advance for them to go because they can change their mind weekly.

If they were free then we would continue to encourage. But as it stands they are effectively lost now. In Melb they might still turn into regular followers as adults.
I used to have 2 kids tickets and cut it back to 1 last year because they werent that interested and now share. One kids ticket costs about $300. I keep buying it hoping they will become more interested but they are more into soccer. Sooner or later I will have to make a choice though.

But I can't believe the Melbourne clubs aren't being compensated for giving away tickets
 
Of course it is. Two seperate 14 year olds, one pays to go, one doesn't.

Why didn't Port 14 year olds get in for free when they couldn't pull a crowd?

I think it works better if we are the shop, rather than the customer. There are two shops, the crows shop where you have to buy one of the last loaves of bread because the shop is full/busy and some Victorian shop that has too many loaves and an empty store so they give away a free loaf with every other loaf to get people in the store.
The customer can go to either store but the stores now have similar amounts of customers
 
I think it works better if we are the shop, rather than the customer. There are two shops, the crows shop where you have to buy one of the last loaves of bread because the shop is full/busy and some Victorian shop that has too many loaves and an empty store so they give away a free loaf with every other loaf to get people in the store.
The customer can go to either store but the stores now have similar amounts of customers
I get what you are saying but there's one flaw, customers in your example have a choice, they can go to either store but that's not reality for footballer supporters in two different states.
 
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