List Mgmt. 2015 AFL Draft - what type of players should we be looking at & who do we take? (Poll added)

[Catfish blue]

Danniher isn't that good.

Have you seen Hogan play?!

Wow. Daniher is not good. I'm stopping there you've lost it.

 

[BluesRule]

Danniher isn't that good.

Have you seen Hogan play?!

Looking at GWS their best forwards are McCarthy 193cm and Cameron !95cm combo.
Stewart and Patton at 198cm are not more effective despite the extra height.

 

[Blue and Silver]

I am majorly pissed off, have been waiting a long time to watch this live esp with the excitement of 4 early pick + SOSOS and live bidding, but have a work function I cannot get out of.

Oh no 1981, you've come down ill with a nasty stomach flu, can't leave the bathroom it is so bad, better let them know about 4pm you feel suddenly ill

 

[Blue and Silver]

Just because they are tall does not mean we need to speculate on ceilings - Ryder, Hampson, Gorringe, etc. etc. There are always better players than these taller types who are over-rated based on one attribute.

Please pick the best players, we already have one of the best 'explosive athletic beasts' in Liam Jones.

Harry is a strong mark and a straight kick who can pick the ball up off the deck at pace. He just doesn't impact games consistently

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

WHEN IS IT?
Tuesday, November 24

WHERE IS IT?
Adelaide Convention Centre

HOW DO I WATCH IT?

Coverage commences at 6.30pm (AEDT). The first round will be live on Fox Footy (Channel 504), as well as Fox Sports 3 (503). To continue to watch the entire draft live, switch to Channel 503 after the first round, as Fox Footy will conduct interviews and have all the best analysis. The broadcast will conclude at 9pm.

Sounds like I record 504 And watch 503.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Wow. Daniher is not good. I'm stopping there you've lost it.

Of the best young forwards in the comp - Hogan, Cameron, McCarthy, Lynch, Stringer are all easily better than him (of that bunch only one is extremely tall) Danniher is good but he's not coleman meddalist or top 5 key forwards in the game good.

 

[thylacine60]

Final Requests

1. Weitering
8. Parish
11. Collins
19. Matheson

How could the AFL not comply with a supporter's last requests?

 

[Coona Blues]

You are joking, surely. We have Kreuzer (who couldn't be traded because of medical issues), Phillips (who is a mature age ruckman who has never commanded a regular position in a team that frequently had little in the way of ruckmen), Wood who is rightly on our rookie list and Korchek (no revealed form). Oh, and if we get desperate we can ruck with our only halfway decent tall forward Caz or an undersized and underskilled Rowe.

Gorringe says g'day too Windy. The bottom line is McKay is still 17 so 5-6 years younger than Gorringe, Phillips and Korcheck. If he becomes more ruck than forward McKay can still be a piece of the puzzle.

 

[BluesRule]

Harry is a strong mark and a straight kick who can pick the ball up off the deck at pace. He just doesn't impact games consistently

All the kids have potential. We have just got this guy, a #10 from the 2010 draft:
10. DANIEL GORRINGE
(Norwood, 18, 200cm, 88kg)
Competitive ruckman with brilliant skills, particularly beneath his knees. Great ruck technique, then plays like an onballer.

The rest of our draft in 2010 was:
18. MATTHEW WATSON
(Calder Cannons, 18, 195cm, 102kg)
Big, bulky centre half-back who loves to make a big spoil, reads the play well and clears from defence with some huge kicking.

34. PAT McCARTHY
(Glenelg, 18, 196cm, 85kg)
A marking defender who could also go forward. A safe mark and a player who steadies the ship.

42. LUKE MITCHELL
(Calder Cannons, 18, 198cm, 94kg)
A centre half-forward/full-forward who is big and strong. Missed much of the year with a shoulder injury but worked hard on his speed and agility in his time out.

67. ANDREW McINNES
(Dandenong Stingrays, 18, 191cm 86kg)
Another defender for the Blues. Quick, strong and can play on forwards of different sizes.

70. NICHOLAS DUIGAN
(Norwood, 26, 186cm, 85kg)
Running defender who is strong overhead.

They were all big guys, but gave us very little. Our best pick from that draft was at #70 when we went short at 186cm. I do not want another 200cm first round project player.

 

[beowulf]

Hey Beo, you are a seasoned draft watcher.

How would you like our night to look like.

4 Future All Australians, 200+ game players.
I expect us to take 3 taller options and 1 midfielder, topping up with mids and 'outside types' in 2016.
Weitering is a given.
I would not be going for Tucker or Bonner. I feel that picking Milera or Ah Chee is not a high priority either, even though we need that sort of player. We'll give Lamb and Sumner a chance to impress first.
For a mid, I'd like Oliver; he fits as an inside ball getter. Gresham would be nice: a gut runner with good disposal.
I'm sure we won't get both McKay boys.
I don't expect us to take a risk on Weideman.

 

[thylacine60]

4 Future All Australians, 200+ game players.
I expect us to take 3 taller options and 1 midfielder, topping up with mids and 'outside types' in 2016.
Weitering is a given.
I would not be going for Tucker or Bonner. I feel that picking Milera or Ah Chee is not a high priority either, even though we need that sort of player. We'll give Lamb and Sumner a chance to impress first.
For a mid, I'd like Oliver; he fits as an inside ball getter. Gresham would be nice: a gut runner with good disposal.
I'm sure we won't get both McKay boys.
I don't expect us to take a risk on Weideman.

We'll see.

 

[95bluemember]

I don't mind taking McKay as long as we get Collins I think that will please most people here because it looks as though Oliver is long gone I'm still not sure about curnow

 

[Coona Blues]

Of the best young forwards in the comp - Hogan, Cameron, McCarthy, Lynch, Stringer are all easily better than him (of that bunch only one is extremely tall) Danniher is good but he's not coleman meddalist or top 5 key forwards in the game good.

Normally agree with you FBI, but hell other than club bias Daniher is going to be a bloody good key forward for a decade. Why are people fascinated with ranking players Hogan, Cameron and Lynch are unique talents. McCarthy still has a way to go despite being promising as a 2nd/3rd tall atm. Stringer is a very selfish package who will be worked out by the better defences. Daniher will have similar value to his team as any of the others named. If McKay reaches that level, I will be ecstatic.

 

[slashin_velvet]

Since we are in a rebuild we are starting from the ground up. We have nothing to lose in going for boom or bust players. If Mckay is a bust we don't go backwards. We try again next year. Once we have our key positions (and tall forwards are as key as you get) in place we can concentrate on upgrading less fashionable positions like full back. Indeed those positions are often filled by players unsuited to other parts of the ground (think Pitman, or going back Bourke and Clay who started life as wingmen).

I disagree. Since weve tradced away a bunch of first round talents in Menzel, Yarran and Henderson, we cant afford to completely bust on these. In fact, given we dont have a strong core of KPP, we cant afford to take a bunch of busts and stay at the bottom of the ladder...instead we take the best 22 locks that we can depend on, and if that means we might miss on one with a high ceiling, then so be it.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Normally agree with you FBI, but hell other than club bias Daniher is going to be a bloody good key forward for a decade. Why are people fascinated with ranking players Hogan, Cameron and Lynch are unique talents. McCarthy still has a way to go despite being promising as a 2nd/3rd tall atm. Stringer is a very selfish package who will be worked out by the better defences. Daniher will have similar value to his team as any of the others named. If McKay reaches that level, I will be ecstatic.

I'm not against McKay - i just dont think that his height is that much of a positive, in fact I think it usually is a bit of a negative. Its his ability that is promising not his height

 

[thylacine60]

What the hell is promising height, FBI?

 

[raymagoo]

I have last minute milera love

 

[thylacine60]

Same, goo. Was too shy to admit it until someone else did. Why do I feel shame?

 

[Blue and Silver]

All the kids have potential. We have just got this guy, a #10 from the 2010 draft:
10. DANIEL GORRINGE
(Norwood, 18, 200cm, 88kg)
Competitive ruckman with brilliant skills, particularly beneath his knees. Great ruck technique, then plays like an onballer.

The rest of our draft in 2010 was:
18. MATTHEW WATSON
(Calder Cannons, 18, 195cm, 102kg)
Big, bulky centre half-back who loves to make a big spoil, reads the play well and clears from defence with some huge kicking.

34. PAT McCARTHY
(Glenelg, 18, 196cm, 85kg)
A marking defender who could also go forward. A safe mark and a player who steadies the ship.

42. LUKE MITCHELL
(Calder Cannons, 18, 198cm, 94kg)
A centre half-forward/full-forward who is big and strong. Missed much of the year with a shoulder injury but worked hard on his speed and agility in his time out.

67. ANDREW McINNES
(Dandenong Stingrays, 18, 191cm 86kg)
Another defender for the Blues. Quick, strong and can play on forwards of different sizes.

70. NICHOLAS DUIGAN
(Norwood, 26, 186cm, 85kg)
Running defender who is strong overhead.

They were all big guys, but gave us very little. Our best pick from that draft was at #70 when we went short at 186cm. I do not want another 200cm first round project player.

You know that with KPP you have to pick some before you get one right?

Like we aren't going to rock up at the club one day and there will be a 198cm marking machine out the front, miraculously signed up overnight who is going to dominate.

Those guys didn't work out, we all know that, they also weren't the top KPP in that draft class or taken high.

We need to take some risks with KPP right now in order to have a shot at having a full side up and going in 2018

 

[BuxbaumBixby]

1. Weitering
8. H McKay
11. Curnow

With current gameplans/styles .... how many guys 200cm+ have been taken in the top 20 in the past few years? Just not sure about McKay at 8.

 

[Jeremias]

You are joking, surely. We have Kreuzer (who couldn't be traded because of medical issues), Phillips (who is a mature age ruckman who has never commanded a regular position in a team that frequently had little in the way of ruckmen), Wood who is rightly on our rookie list and Korchek (no revealed form). Oh, and if we get desperate we can ruck with our only halfway decent tall forward Caz or an undersized and underskilled Rowe.

I would have thought it important to get your facts straight before jumping on here and being so condescending.

Kreuzer couldn't be traded because he was not on the trade table. The club made it clear that they wanted him to stay but as a free agent he had the right to explore his options elsewhere.

We have three genuine rucks on the senior list - Kreuzer, Phillips & Gorringe (who you completely overlooked) - and one on the rookie list - Wood. Forget about Korcheck for now as he is a Category B rookie and not likely to see senior game time any time soon, if at all.

Name me one other club who currently has more genuine options available to them than we do. There are very few, if any.

checkpoints is right - we have plenty of holes which need to be addressed, but bringing in another ruckman is way down on the list of priorities. We're sufficiently covered in that area of the ground.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

You know that with KPP you have to pick some before you get one right?

Like we aren't going to rock up at the club one day and there will be a 198cm marking machine out the front, miraculously signed up overnight who is going to dominate.

Those guys didn't work out, we all know that, they also weren't the top KPP in that draft class or taken high.

We need to take some risks with KPP right now in order to have a shot at having a full side up and going in 2018

But 'taken high'? Thats just a matter of where they are taken not how highly they are rated.

If we take Collins at #11 it doesn't mean he's the #11th best player in the draft.

Collins isnt in the best 15 players in this draft - he's eerily close to that Watson range at around #18.

 

[HARKER]

Interesting.......or maybe it isn't.
Would have to be a Melbourne, GC or Essendon selection to feature in the top 10.

 

[BlueWoof_#39]

All the kids have potential. We have just got this guy, a #10 from the 2010 draft:
10. DANIEL GORRINGE
(Norwood, 18, 200cm, 88kg)
Competitive ruckman with brilliant skills, particularly beneath his knees. Great ruck technique, then plays like an onballer.

The rest of our draft in 2010 was:
18. MATTHEW WATSON
(Calder Cannons, 18, 195cm, 102kg)
Big, bulky centre half-back who loves to make a big spoil, reads the play well and clears from defence with some huge kicking.

34. PAT McCARTHY
(Glenelg, 18, 196cm, 85kg)
A marking defender who could also go forward. A safe mark and a player who steadies the ship.

42. LUKE MITCHELL
(Calder Cannons, 18, 198cm, 94kg)
A centre half-forward/full-forward who is big and strong. Missed much of the year with a shoulder injury but worked hard on his speed and agility in his time out.

67. ANDREW McINNES
(Dandenong Stingrays, 18, 191cm 86kg)
Another defender for the Blues. Quick, strong and can play on forwards of different sizes.

70. NICHOLAS DUIGAN
(Norwood, 26, 186cm, 85kg)
Running defender who is strong overhead.

They were all big guys, but gave us very little. Our best pick from that draft was at #70 when we went short at 186cm. I do not want another 200cm first round project player.

Our player development has been woeful, especially over that period and I really think a high majority of players we recruited haven't made it due to that factor. But now with the added focus on development at the club and essentially all our assistant coaches coming from a player development background we 'should' have a better strike rate. McKay is easily the best choice at 8 or 11 and definitely ahead of Collins.


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[Just Kreuzing]

Surely they would have to invite about 20 possibilities to fill the potential top 10 positions.

I hope we dont watch a live contrived draft....