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2015 Non-Crows AFL Discussion - Part 2

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Know a guy who poured a cheap Jacobs Creek into an empty Grange bottle and served it to a wine snob who proceeded to wax lyrical about it.
He got called out and they never spoke again.
I believe Bon Scott did similar to Daryl Braithwaite but with a bottle of beer and urine. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
 

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Seems like the ACB let Smith know that Australia does not enforce the follow on, we need to maximise people through the gate.

Weak as piss, just get it over and done with in 3 days ffs.
 
What makes them the awards, and what relationship or conclusions are you trying to draw in comparison against a private tasting of the finest wines in the world, held by the most eminent experts of the day? something that has been repeated many times since with consistent results.

Also as far as I was aware the very best wines don't enter things like the decanter awards.

i guess I'm just wondering what experience you're drawing on to make these sweeping comments? Given how expensive Californian is, and how little is available in Adelaide, I wouldn't have imagined someone who prides himself on finding bargains in the $15 range, and never above $40, would have much experience in this field where the prices of the best stuff is many multiples of that.

Could be wrong, but wouldn't mind hearing of your first hand experiences :thumbsu:
Feel free to use other awards if you wish, but the decanter 2015 international awards are more relevant than your 1976 awards! 240 wine industry experts selected the winners & this was combined with the international wine expo.

I have visited hundreds of wineries & also many wine club tastings. I go out of my way to talk to winemakers. I have also represented local wineries talking about their wines. It's something I enjoy doing regularly like the crows & I believe my knowledge is better than most...However, there are many who work regularly in the industry who know far, far more. I also have a good mate who is a walking wine encyclopedia.

Also. I do buy & have many wines over $40 too - helps if you read my quotes! It's just I'm fussy paying $40 or more - the wine must rock my socks to pay this amount. Eg. I own many haenshke wines, including hill of grace. These are wines I cellar for later.

Because I enjoy wines, I'm always looking for easy drinking good value wines too. I also like trying different varieties & have different regions & countries stored. For me nothing beats a powerful local shiraz with a lamb roast, but it's good to enjoy different styles.

I have tried many Californian wines, but imo other regions make similar variety wines better. South Africa makes better value wines imo.

However, if drinking international wines, I prefer Spanish, Chilean & Italian as they use varietals we don't use as much.

Its all personal taste on one's palate, but I'm not going to spend more time arguing with you that you think your 1976 awards are still relevant. Much has changed in the industry since then. Didn't even have screw caps!
 
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Seems like the ACB let Smith know that Australia does not enforce the follow on, we need to maximise people through the gate.

Weak as piss, just get it over and done with in 3 days ffs.
With the way sports science guys are these days there was no way our bowlers were bowling again today on that road.
 
With the way sports science guys are these days there was no way our bowlers were bowling again today on that road.

Apart from perth the bowlers have had an easy summer, ahhhhhh, in the good old days it would be automatic to follow on.

They are really just jerkin the gerkin out there to make sure they have a full days play tomorrow and the mcg can charge full price for day 4.
 

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Apart from perth the bowlers have had an easy summer, ahhhhhh, in the good old days it would be automatic to follow on.

They are really just jerkin the gerkin out there to make sure they have a full days play tomorrow and the mcg can charge full price for day 4.
I agree totally. Pattinson is only 2 games from breaking down, Banana Boy Siddle can't last long spells at the crease and they were already talking about giving Hazelwood a break before Starc broke down.

Nevill and especially Marsh need time at the crease as much as bowlers need to bowl.

Reality was as soon as they won the toss and bowled we were always batting twice. Looked dodgy from the outset
 
You're right I deliberately lied in order to impress all the gurus on BF as that's how I get my rocks off :rolleyes:
Don't worry about Sanders. as just likes to get under people's skin.

I have spoken to numerous people who have done similar though immediately after came clean.
 
Just got back from visiting some friends in Clare.

Picked up a carton of Knappstein Lager and a couple of cartons each of Pike's Tonic, Golden Ale and Stout.

Tonic may be a light beer, but it tastes great. Looking forward to mixing it with some Gin as the tasting notes suggest.

Beer fridge looks good for a month or two.

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Feel free to use other awards if you wish, but the decanter 2015 international awards are more relevant than your 1976 awards!

Awards? Might I suggest you read the article, it's pretty obvious (embarrassingly so) you haven't.

It was a private tasting, attended by some of the worlds foremost experts repeated in 1978, 1986 & 2006


The Tasting that Changed the Wine World: 'The Judgment of Paris' 30th Anniversary

A 30th anniversary re-tasting on both sides of the Atlantic Ocean was organized by Steven Spurrier in 2006. As The Times reported "Despite the French tasters, many of whom had taken part in the original tasting, 'expecting the downfall' of the American vineyards, they had to admit that the harmony of the Californian cabernets had beaten them again.

Judges on both continents gave top honors to a 1971 Ridge Monte Bello cabernet. Four Californian reds occupied the next placings before the highest-ranked Bordeaux, a 1970 Château Mouton-Rothschild, came in at sixth."[9]

The Tasting that Changed the Wine World: 'The Judgment of Paris' 30th Anniversary was conducted on 24 May 2006.[10]

The 30th anniversary was held simultaneously at the museum Copia in Napa, California and at Berry Bros. & Rudd (Britain’s oldest wine merchant) in London, in association with Steven Spurrier, who created the original Paris event.

The panel of nine wine experts at Copia consisted of Dan Berger, Anthony Dias Blue, Stephen Brook, Wilfred Jaeger, Peter Marks MW, Paul Roberts MS, Andrea Immer Robinson MS, Jean-Michel Valette MW and Christian Vanneque, one of the original judges from the 1976 tasting.

The panel of nine experts at Berry Bros. & Rudd consisted of Michel Bettane, Michael Broadbent MW, Michel Dovaz, Hugh Johnson, Matthew Jukes, Jane MacQuitty, Jasper Morris MW, Jancis Robinson OBE MW and Brian St. Pierre.[10]

The results showed that additional panels of experts again preferred the California wines over their French competitors.[11]


Now which of these experts do you think you know more than? ;)

I have visited hundreds of wineries & also many wine club tastings. I go out of my way to talk to winemakers. I have also represented local wineries talking about their wines. It's something I enjoy doing regularly like the crows & I believe my knowledge is better than most...However, there are many who work regularly in the industry who know far, far more. I also have a good mate who is a walking wine encyclopedia.

Also. I do buy & have many wines over $40 too - helps if you read my quotes! It's just I'm fussy paying $40 or more - the wine must rock my socks to pay this amount. Eg. I own many haenshke wines, including hill of grace. These are wines I cellar for later.

Because I enjoy wines, I'm always looking for easy drinking good value wines too. I also like trying different varieties & have different regions & countries stored. For me nothing beats a powerful local shiraz with a lamb roast, but it's good to enjoy different styles.

If you go on a TV dating show that might be some good blarney, but pretty inadequate to support the assertions you've been making

I have tried many Californian wines, but must imo other regions make wines better.

I don't think you have :)

Your avoiding specifics like the plague. Plus it's nearly impossible to get good California wine in Adelaide.

Arguably the best, and certainly the most expensive Cabernet Sauvignons in the world are Californian. I don't think someone who has no experience in a topic should be shouting their mouth about it. there are no Australian Cabernets anywhere near the quality of the best Californians


Its all personal taste on one's palate, but I'm not going to spend more time arguing with you that you think your 1976 awards are still relevant. Much has changed in the industry since then. Didn't even have screw caps!

by the way "my" tasting is so famous they've written books and made movies about it.

The irony is that you'd fantasise to big yourself up in a discussion mocking ignorant people pretending to be wine, coffee or steak experts. And if you had read the link I posted before kicking off, you'd had saved yourself a good deal of embarrassment.
 

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Awards? Might I suggest you read the article, it's pretty obvious (embarrassingly so) you haven't.

It was a private tasting, attended by some of the worlds foremost experts repeated in 1978, 1986 & 2006


The Tasting that Changed the Wine World: 'The Judgment of Paris' 30th Anniversary

A 30th anniversary re-tasting on both sides of the Atlantic Ocean was organized by Steven Spurrier in 2006. As The Times reported "Despite the French tasters, many of whom had taken part in the original tasting, 'expecting the downfall' of the American vineyards, they had to admit that the harmony of the Californian cabernets had beaten them again.

Judges on both continents gave top honors to a 1971 Ridge Monte Bello cabernet. Four Californian reds occupied the next placings before the highest-ranked Bordeaux, a 1970 Château Mouton-Rothschild, came in at sixth."[9]

The Tasting that Changed the Wine World: 'The Judgment of Paris' 30th Anniversary was conducted on 24 May 2006.[10]

The 30th anniversary was held simultaneously at the museum Copia in Napa, California and at Berry Bros. & Rudd (Britain’s oldest wine merchant) in London, in association with Steven Spurrier, who created the original Paris event.

The panel of nine wine experts at Copia consisted of Dan Berger, Anthony Dias Blue, Stephen Brook, Wilfred Jaeger, Peter Marks MW, Paul Roberts MS, Andrea Immer Robinson MS, Jean-Michel Valette MW and Christian Vanneque, one of the original judges from the 1976 tasting.

The panel of nine experts at Berry Bros. & Rudd consisted of Michel Bettane, Michael Broadbent MW, Michel Dovaz, Hugh Johnson, Matthew Jukes, Jane MacQuitty, Jasper Morris MW, Jancis Robinson OBE MW and Brian St. Pierre.[10]

The results showed that additional panels of experts again preferred the California wines over their French competitors.[11]


Now which of these experts do you think you know more than? ;)



If you go on a TV dating show that might be some good blarney, but pretty inadequate to support the assertions you've been making



I don't think you have :)

Your avoiding specifics like the plague. Plus it's nearly impossible to get good California wine in Adelaide.

Arguably the best, and certainly the most expensive Cabernet Sauvignons in the world are Californian. I don't think someone who has no experience in a topic should be shouting their mouth about it. there are no Australian Cabernets anywhere near the quality of the best Californians




by the way "my" tasting is so famous they've written books and made movies about it.

The irony is that you'd fantasise to big yourself up in a discussion mocking ignorant people pretending to be wine, coffee or steak experts. And if you had read the link I posted before kicking off, you'd had saved yourself a good deal of embarrassment.
Lol, you are saying an ad hoc tasting of 9 experts which is so relevant it hasn't been held in 9 years is more relevant than annual awards voted by a panel of 240 experts all over the world. How many of your 9 were from the usa? Hardly a big sample of experts!

You are correct in saying I haven't tried oodles of US wines as I don't enjoy them as much as other wines. Each to their own as its about finding what you enjoy & there is no right or wrong in this respect.

As for the rest of your post, the usual personal bs you use to deflect when you are out of depth on a topic. ;)

Feel free to talk about your experiences in the wine industry as opposed to random google searches to claim expertise. What wine club's are you in? What are your favorite wineries?
 
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If you are genuinely iinterested in wines come along to one of my wine clubs... But I suspect you are not genuine.

Would have thought being in the festive season you would be happier but alas not so...more like the grinch.

Ps. Try a blind tasting - they can be fun... & you could do with some fun in your life! :)
 
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