Analysis 2016 AFL Trade Week Thread

[raptalia]

I reckon Jason Cripps has staked his future on this being a very deep draft and picks 14 and 17 working out. This has all the hallmarks of brilliant trading or a ****ing disaster.

The fact that we could not off load a single player or trade a needed player in is ringing alarm bells with me. Either we have a dud list who no one wants or no one wants to come to Adelaide. We are still short a key forward and we have not boosted our midfield one iota. The chances of getting an Ollie Wines at 14 or 17 are pretty low.

We have traded our first round pick in next year's draft so 14 and 17 have to work out.

 

[MrMeaner]

The part im more annoyed with is the continual trading of future and first round picks and it not paying off.

In the past few years we have given away to much with our trading of first round and future picks and the reward being to little. It has resulted in us only have 1 pick in the top 40 this year and finishing outside the top 8 two years in a row.

Our selections this year are good on face value, but if we have another poor year (fingers crossed we dont) it wont appear to be good this time next year

I agree with that. I am not a big fan of trading future picks. But that is because I am naturally wary of uncertainty. My point was more one about the rhetoric used here. People are writing that a top-10 pick is guaranteed or it is certain. At most, as Portia points out, it is likely.

Seriously, the level of debate here has reached Trumpian levels. I am just waiting for someone to describe us as a 'tremendous disaster'.

 

[PowerForGood]

Draft picks rather than big name players are never going to be exciting (some would say we should have thrown 14 and 17 at Gibbs if he REALLY wanted to come home), however we finish adding to our 2016 playing list with 4 top 30 picks, Ryder (and Monfries and White if you want to be pedantic). By the end of 2017 salary cap pressures and long-term contracts become less of a factor which means we can sew up Wines, Wingard, etc.

I'm ok with that.

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[FranKenHinckley]

You're right, it's a bit of a gamble, but I like it on face value. Let's load up as best we can and see what happens in 2017. At best we play well, play finals, and put some of this shit behind us. At worst we bottom out even further, realise the folly of investing so heavily in this group and trade our way back into next year's first round.

Finbarr stop it. Stop it!!! I'm wagging my finger at you

Think about it

We GAVE away a guaranteed top 10 pick next year, for picks 19 and 30. Just look at it in isolation. Forget the this year next year thing

We swapped 9 for 14, so as to upgrade 19 to 17. Forge everything after pick 25. It is irrelevent

So we started with

2016 Pick #9 and now have pick #14
2017 Pick ~9 and now have pick #17

Wait for it, wait for it....waiting

There. Did the penny drop for you on this?

 

[ROBBBO]

I reckon Jason Cripps has staked his future on this being a very deep draft and picks 14 and 17 working out. This has all the hallmarks of brilliant trading or a ******* disaster.

This

 

[Papa G]

We've gone from having 1 pick in the top 48 at the start of the week, to 4 picks in the top 31. I'm ok with that.

It is spreading the risk. The more I think about it, the more I don't mind it.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Think of it this way, we'll secure a bunch of talented kids who can force these names out of the side and potentially out of the club. We're certainly positioning ourselves for a big turnover next year in the case of another failure. If we trade out/lose to FA a Pittard we'll be back in the first round or very close too.

We can only move on players who agree to be moved on or who are out of contract. Nothing else we can do. We dug the hole re: long term contracts, but we are doing the right thing to dig out. Load up on talent and force them to move.

How big a turn over can we actually do next year? What are we going to replace them with? We dont have a first rounder and noone wants out players so even if we only move on 4 we are already bringing someone in in the 5th round!

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[MrMeaner]

Finbarr stop it. Stop it!!! I'm wagging my finger at you

Think about it

We GAVE away a guaranteed top 10 pick next year, for picks 19 and 30. Just look at it in isolation. Forget the this year next year thing

We swapped 9 for 14, so as to upgrade 19 to 17. Forge everything after pick 25. It is irrelevent

So we started with

2016 Pick #9 and now have pick #14
2017 Pick ~9 and now have pick #17

Wait for it, wait for it....waiting

There. Did the penny drop for you on this?

Stop with the guarantees. I'm still not buying.

 

[Lagooner]

Finbarr stop it. Stop it!!! I'm wagging my finger at you

Think about it

We GAVE away a guaranteed top 10 pick next year, for picks 19 and 30. Just look at it in isolation. Forget the this year next year thing

We swapped 9 for 14, so as to upgrade 19 to 17. Forge everything after pick 25. It is irrelevent

So we started with

2016 Pick #9 and now have pick #14
2017 Pick ~9 and now have pick #17

Wait for it, wait for it....waiting

There. Did the penny drop for you on this?

You could pick any draft over the last 15 years at random and show that this sentence is complete bullshit.

Go on, pick a year.

 

[Waspy79]

I think we need to delist one more player. Who do we have out of contract apart of O'Shea and Stewart?

Jonas too perhaps until we learn of his 3 year deal. I'd hope Stewart is gone out of those three.

 

[Arthur Dunger]

Dead set horrible PAFC.
We addressed none of our needs and pissed away our 1st rounder for next year

 

[Peck]

I’m happy with this move, they clearly have a strategy in mind and are acting on it. That is honestly the best thing you can ask for IMO.

 

[MrMeaner]

Let's all ponder who our best player is at the moment and where he went in the draft.

 

[Doctor Feel]

I can see it now. "Port Marshalls The Troops" as Marshall kicks 5 and we storm home in a historic victory.

The chance of a new young KPF, seems surreal.

 

[melanChronic]

Is there anything to stop a club from trading it's first pick next year, into a current first rounder, every year?

I mean theoretically we could do that every year right?

And then at some stage someone may want to leave and we'd just fill in that year with a 1st pick from the loss of a player and return to normal.


So in a sense, even though we are taking a risk, maybe we've actually uncovered a loop hole that we are exploiting?

It's a terrible idea, because we are consigning ourselves to the end of 1st round every year, regardless of ladder position. We'll never get a top 10 pick for a future 1st.

I guess it means we can 'brag' about having no top 10 picks on our list. But look where that has got Adelaide, forever 5-10.

 

[afl2004]

Im surprised at the negativity....well not really.

I think we've made the best of a shit situation.

Youre surprised that people are upset about our club having no future ????

 

[Portia]

Im surprised at the negativity....well not really.

I think we've made the best of a shit situation.

A shit situation this regime caused and has mortgaged next year's first in an attempt at alleviation.

Forgive us if some of us aren't enthused, McWisbey.

 

[Spadge]

At the end of the day no matter who we pick up at 14, you can guarantee the club spinning it as the player we would have picked up at 9 anyway

all i can hope for is that we draft well and that our sydneys pick 9 doesnt turn out to be a Taranto or an SPS.. or that Adelaide dont pick up the slider that we could have nabbed with pick 9

 

[DaTBird187]

Because after pick 6 the draft is very even up to around our last picks. Bloody great move by the Cripps and Co.

The fact that Taranto went from a pick in the 20's to top 10 on the back of a couple of good late season games, means sliders and bolters abound in this draft.

I was actually one who thought we'd done good with the pick deal the other day. Now I'm excited to go balls deep in a midfielders draft, with four picks.

 

[Doctor Feel]

Whichever KPF we draft is most certainly called The Furture.

 

[Papa G]

We can trade into the first round next year remember peeps. If we turn out to be shithouse next year as many are predicting, it will be rebuild mode and flogging off some of our aging "stars" who won't ever be part of a premiership with Port Adelaide will be a very real and easier option.

 

[Spadge]

and flogging off some of our aging "stars" who won't ever be part of a premiership with Port Adelaide will be a very real and easier option.

Which by then will only attract 3rd and 4th rounders if this draft is anything to go by

 

[Adz2332]

All u mid with the first pick at 14 i think will be disappointed

 

[MrMeaner]

It's all over, wind up the club. The seers have spoken.

 

[afl2004]

We can trade into the first round next year remember peeps. If we turn out to be shithouse next year as many are predicting, it will be rebuild mode and flogging off some of our aging "stars" who won't ever be part of a premiership with Port Adelaide will be a very real and easier option.

They have no value this year and another pathetic year and somehow they have value????