Strategy 2016 Draft Needs

[Bicks]

They have Allies at U/18 level now?

And that's where a lot of the elite young talent is coming from....

 

[Team DJ]

We need to invest in a KPD late.
Outside of Talia Hartigan and Lever.

We have Otten Shaw and potentially Keenan Ramsay in the 2s.

Otten and Shaw have no future at the club. Whilst Ramsay has played more forward.

 

[jackster83]

We need to invest in a KPD late.
Outside of Talia Hartigan and Lever.

We have Otten Shaw and potentially Keenan Ramsay in the 2s.

Otten and Shaw have no future at the club. Whilst Ramsay has played more forward.

Keath?

 

[Team DJ]

Keath?

Great if he comes off. But hasnt played Footy for 5 years and in my opinion prefers playing Cricket

 

[Jeffcrowe]

And that's where a lot of the elite young talent is coming from....

5 allies kids capable of being top 10
Setterfield Perryman Marshall Bowes (QLD) and Macreadie ( Marshall only one not academy tied)

Then another 8 capable of being top 30
Watson (QLD) Himmelberg ( Qld- not academy) Mutch Allison (QLD) Lynch Scheer ( QLD) Davis ( not academy tied) and Williams (QLD)

13 of the top 30 a chance !!!

Put in perspective SA will be lucky to have more than 2 !!!

 

[Tex200]

5 allies kids capable of being top 10
Setterfield Perryman Marshall Bowes (QLD) and Macreadie ( Marshall only one not academy tied)

Then another 8 capable of being top 30
Watson (QLD) Himmelberg ( Qld- not academy) Mutch Allison (QLD) Lynch Scheer ( QLD) Davis ( not academy tied) and Williams (QLD)

13 of the top 30 a chance !!!

Put in perspective SA will be lucky to have more than 2 !!!

I think that's good news.

Seeds that were planted years ago a bearing fruit. If the object was to grow the game in Qld, NSW, then....it's happening.

Elite Kids who years ago may have been lost to other sports are playing football.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I think that's good news.

Seeds that were planted years ago a bearing fruit. If the object was to grow the game in Qld, NSW, then....it's happening.

Elite Kids who years ago may have been lost to other sports are playing football.

It's amazing the difference between when the AFL was developing those areas vs the clubs now !!!

The greatest positive in expansion of the Comp is participation in these states rather than crowds

Hopefully kids growing up playing the AFL code end up attending games but that part is years away still

Participation in schools and newly formed clubs is going gangbusters in NSW - some kids can't even get a spot on a roster

 

[WeeBlake]

I would be happy if we drafted exclusively mids, plus maybe another rookie ruck

 

[skittlebrew]

As long as they're not slow and bad kicks, got enough of those blokes...

I would be happy if we drafted exclusively mids, plus maybe another rookie ruck

I'm very much against using a decent pick on a ruck unless they're a 7ft sandy. Always going to take a while to come on and by that point might be looking elsewhere for opportunity. I guess no harm in using a later pick on one especially given our overall depth isn't too bad these days.

 

[Team DJ]

Dont really see the need for another Ruck.
At this stage we have:

Ruck: Jacobs OBrien Hunter
KPF/Ruck: Jenkins Dear Lowden

If/when we delist Luke, if anything all we need is a tweener rather than another pure Ruckman.

 

[ad victoriam]

Dont really see the need for another Ruck.
At this stage we have:

Ruck: Jacobs OBrien Hunter
KPF/Ruck: Jenkins Dear Lowden

If/when we delist Luke, if anything all we need is a tweener rather than another pure Ruckman.

Hunter has the potential to be a Ruck Forward, (Potential only at this time). If and most likely given the number of De-listing and who they are over the next 2 years, Lowden get de-listed then I would not mind if they went for a Yank like a Stanislas Heili 212cm, or the smaller Shane Henry 197cm and Khalia Spicer 201cm, Both these 2 have great leaps Quote "Henry recorded a jump of 371cm and Spicer jumped 368cm, which surpassed the likes of Mason Cox (364cm), Jason Holmes (359cm) and Nic Naitanui (356cm)." Also has the extra value of being on the Cat B list.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-04-26/talent-at-us-combine-reaches-record-heights

 

[Bicks]

Hunter has the potential to be a Ruck Forward, (Potential only at this time). If and most likely given the number of De-listing and who they are over the next 2 years, Lowden get de-listed then I would not mind if they went for a Yank like a Stanislas Heili 212cm, or the smaller Shane Henry 197cm and Khalia Spicer 201cm, Both these 2 have great leaps Quote "Henry recorded a jump of 371cm and Spicer jumped 368cm, which surpassed the likes of Mason Cox (364cm), Jason Holmes (359cm) and Nic Naitanui (356cm)." Also has the extra value of being on the Cat B list.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-04-26/talent-at-us-combine-reaches-record-heights

No thanks, if we want a developing "big" man we should just do whatever it takes to draft SA homegrown product Jordan Sweet 203cm 98Kegs or maybe Peter Ladhams another SA prospect.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Really need to get someone like Sweet IMO. Not sure ROB ever becomes a good enough pure 1st ruck?

Get him in the second round. Get a good mid with our 1st. Get LeBois as an eventual Eddie replacement in the 3rd. Get a young KPF to develop next year. Draft mids with all other picks.

Problem sorted.

 

[Bicks]

This is the kid that I'm tipping will race up the draft boards after the Championships IMO, dazzling speed, endurance, inside/outside midfielder that wins his own ball or running back....killing it in the TAC Comp........GUN......fits our needs down to the ground.

http://www.sen.com.au/news/afl/05-1...een-on-track-for-afl-shot#IzfD3RfJifdMQ4hL.97

 

[Jeffcrowe]

No thanks, if we want a developing "big" man we should just do whatever it takes to draft SA homegrown product Jordan Sweet 203cm 98Kegs or maybe Peter Ladhams another SA prospect.

The kid English from WA seems intriguing - 204cm and can play forward . Could be the next Rory Lobb

Looking forward to seeing how he goes this weekend and rest of the champs 18s

 

[Jeffcrowe]

This is the kid that I'm tipping will race up the draft boards after the Championships IMO, dazzling speed, endurance, inside/outside midfielder that wins his own ball or running back....killing it in the TAC Comp........GUN......fits our needs down to the ground.

http://www.sen.com.au/news/afl/05-1...een-on-track-for-afl-shot#IzfD3RfJifdMQ4hL.97

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[Bicks]

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image: http://www.sen.com.au/media/7754/mcgrath-tac.jpg

Sandringham Dragons defender Andrew McGrath is a genuine all-round sportsman.

It was only two years ago that he won the under-17 400m hurdles title at the Australian Junior Athletics Championships.

All through his teenage years he played football during the winter and spent his summer months competing in athletics.

However, McGrath was faced with the difficult decision of having to decide between the two sports at the end of 2014.

“My athletics coach said I needed a full off-season if I wanted to take that next step, which at the time was pushing for Australian selection for that age group,” McGrath said.

“I ended up saying ‘I can’t really commit to that, I think my heart’s more in football’, so that was the turning point.

“At the same time I was just starting to get in the under-18 system for the TAC Cup, so it worked out well in that way as football was pretty much all year round.”

The East Brighton junior’s decision to stick with football has proven to be a wise one as he went on to be a valuable member in the Dragons’ defence late last season and won the club’s best first-year player award.

“I found a spot in the backline towards the back end of the season and loved every minute of it there,” he said.

“I played as a small back and would sometimes lock down on one of the opposition’s better small forwards if need be.

“Towards the end of the year I found some good form and it sets up for a good top-age year.”

With the commencement of the Associated Public Schools winter boys’ football season, McGrath’s commitments with Brighton Grammar come first, but he has been fortunate enough to play in four of Sandringham’s seven matches this season, including last Sunday’s victory over the Gippsland Power.

The 17-year-old produced another excellent showing, notching up best-afield honours racking up 44 possessions, 19 tackles, 14 clearances and kicking two goals in the 49-point win.

Sandringham Dragons coach Jeremy Barnard has been pleased with McGrath’s progress in the TAC Cup as a natural half-back flanker, likening him to Western Bulldogs star Jason Johannisen.

“He’s got tremendous power speed and he uses that to advantage to break the lines, which is a real asset for us when he plays across half back,” Barnard said.

“He has spent some time in the midfield this year and I think he’ll develop into a handy midfielder, but due to the way he reads the ball and his ability to play on talls and smalls, half back is his best spot at the minute.”

McGrath has been training with the Vic Metro under-18 squad every Tuesday night and is eagerly anticipating this year’s division one national championships in June.

“A big goal of mine this year is to have a solid carnival for Vic Metro and contribute well there, and hopefully get a few wins along the way,” he said.

With Sandringham sitting comfortably in second spot on the ladder at 5-1-1, McGrath is looking forward to returning to play alongside his Dragons teammates after the APS season draws to a close.

And he believes all the hard work on the track over the off-season has been the reason behind Sandringham’s brilliant start to the season.

“All the boys in my year were really committed over the pre-season,” he said.

“We really used last year as a bit of a driving force to become a pretty imposing team to come up against this year, which we’ve proven in the first few rounds, so hopefully we can hold that form.”

It’s always been a dream of McGrath’s to make it into the AFL system, especially after he made the hard choice on his sporting preference.

“Ever since I made that tough call between athletics and football it’s been in the back of my head to try and hopefully get a spot on an AFL list, which would be an absolute dream come true,” he said.


Read more at http://www.sen.com.au/news/afl/05-1...een-on-track-for-afl-shot#HcsfqVI5gp2KHfec.99

 

[Jeffcrowe]

image: http://www.sen.com.au/media/7754/mcgrath-tac.jpg

Sandringham Dragons defender Andrew McGrath is a genuine all-round sportsman.

It was only two years ago that he won the under-17 400m hurdles title at the Australian Junior Athletics Championships.

All through his teenage years he played football during the winter and spent his summer months competing in athletics.

However, McGrath was faced with the difficult decision of having to decide between the two sports at the end of 2014.

“My athletics coach said I needed a full off-season if I wanted to take that next step, which at the time was pushing for Australian selection for that age group,” McGrath said.

“I ended up saying ‘I can’t really commit to that, I think my heart’s more in football’, so that was the turning point.

“At the same time I was just starting to get in the under-18 system for the TAC Cup, so it worked out well in that way as football was pretty much all year round.”

The East Brighton junior’s decision to stick with football has proven to be a wise one as he went on to be a valuable member in the Dragons’ defence late last season and won the club’s best first-year player award.

“I found a spot in the backline towards the back end of the season and loved every minute of it there,” he said.

“I played as a small back and would sometimes lock down on one of the opposition’s better small forwards if need be.

“Towards the end of the year I found some good form and it sets up for a good top-age year.”

With the commencement of the Associated Public Schools winter boys’ football season, McGrath’s commitments with Brighton Grammar come first, but he has been fortunate enough to play in four of Sandringham’s seven matches this season, including last Sunday’s victory over the Gippsland Power.

The 17-year-old produced another excellent showing, notching up best-afield honours racking up 44 possessions, 19 tackles, 14 clearances and kicking two goals in the 49-point win.

Sandringham Dragons coach Jeremy Barnard has been pleased with McGrath’s progress in the TAC Cup as a natural half-back flanker, likening him to Western Bulldogs star Jason Johannisen.

“He’s got tremendous power speed and he uses that to advantage to break the lines, which is a real asset for us when he plays across half back,” Barnard said.

“He has spent some time in the midfield this year and I think he’ll develop into a handy midfielder, but due to the way he reads the ball and his ability to play on talls and smalls, half back is his best spot at the minute.”

McGrath has been training with the Vic Metro under-18 squad every Tuesday night and is eagerly anticipating this year’s division one national championships in June.

“A big goal of mine this year is to have a solid carnival for Vic Metro and contribute well there, and hopefully get a few wins along the way,” he said.

With Sandringham sitting comfortably in second spot on the ladder at 5-1-1, McGrath is looking forward to returning to play alongside his Dragons teammates after the APS season draws to a close.

And he believes all the hard work on the track over the off-season has been the reason behind Sandringham’s brilliant start to the season.

“All the boys in my year were really committed over the pre-season,” he said.

“We really used last year as a bit of a driving force to become a pretty imposing team to come up against this year, which we’ve proven in the first few rounds, so hopefully we can hold that form.”

It’s always been a dream of McGrath’s to make it into the AFL system, especially after he made the hard choice on his sporting preference.

“Ever since I made that tough call between athletics and football it’s been in the back of my head to try and hopefully get a spot on an AFL list, which would be an absolute dream come true,” he said.


Read more at http://www.sen.com.au/news/afl/05-1...een-on-track-for-afl-shot#HcsfqVI5gp2KHfec.99

19 tackles and 14 clearances and an athlete

Look forward to seeing how he goes this month

 

[Golumless]

Really need to get someone like Sweet IMO. Not sure ROB ever becomes a good enough pure 1st ruck?

Get him in the second round. Get a good mid with our 1st. Get LeBois as an eventual Eddie replacement in the 3rd. Get a young KPF to develop next year. Draft mids with all other picks.

Problem sorted.

Woah. Would not waste a 2nd round pick on a ruck.

ROB is tracking quite well to be a pure 1st ruck as well.

 

[ad victoriam]

No thanks, if we want a developing "big" man we should just do whatever it takes to draft SA homegrown product Jordan Sweet 203cm 98Kegs or maybe Peter Ladhams another SA prospect.

Looking at 4 rucks, ROB got years in him, if Hunter comes on that give 2 rucks and Hunter has shown promise as a marking Forward, I am assuming Lowden the one to go, Then why not look at a Cat B, if these other Kids are available for Rookie then yea have a good look. Go with 3 rookie rucks Cat B salary is not in the cap.
Or we need ask are they better than ROB and Hunter. Also Sweet may not be around spending time down the road, as they have an interest in him. Ladhams would like to see him around the bigger SANFL rucks and again would like to see him get the ground ball. At this time ROB a lot better prospect and Hunter get his hands on the ball more.
Crows have 1st round pick followed by 3rd and 4th rounds, Could possibly use both (3rd round and 4th round) for Jarmen. If it a choice between Sweet/Ladhams or Ben Jarman which way. Can say one thing Sweet will not last to a 5th round By then he will be at Port.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Woah. Would not waste a 2nd round pick on a ruck.

ROB is tracking quite well to be a pure 1st ruck as well.

Um, why not?

ROB screams utility - someone who can fill a hole as a 2nd ruck, or 3rd KPP (not a 3rd tall ala Lynch/Lever, but someone who can give our KPPs a rest, and do the job well) - not a pure 1st ruck to me. Besides, I reckon we'll need to replace Lowden's spot at season's end - why not grab a young ruck in a draft where's a lot of good ones?

 

[Bicks]

Looking at 4 rucks, ROB got years in him, if Hunter comes on that give 2 rucks and Hunter has shown promise as a marking Forward, I am assuming Lowden the one to go, Then why not look at a Cat B, if these other Kids are available for Rookie then yea have a good look. Go with 3 rookie rucks Cat B salary is not in the cap.
Or we need ask are they better than ROB and Hunter. Also Sweet may not be around spending time down the road, as they have an interest in him. Ladhams would like to see him around the bigger SANFL rucks and again would like to see him get the ground ball. At this time ROB a lot better prospect and Hunter get his hands on the ball more.
Crows have 1st round pick followed by 3rd and 4th rounds, Could possibly use both (3rd round and 4th round) for Jarmen. If it a choice between Sweet/Ladhams or Ben Jarman which way. Can say one thing Sweet will not last to a 5th round By then he will be at Port.

That's easy Jordan Sweet..

http://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/15886728/jack-bowes-firms-possible-no1-pick

SA under-20s v SA under-18s

Medium forwards Henry Carey (five goals) and Josh Koster (three goals) led the under-20s to victory, proving too strong for the under-18 defenders. Brett Turner, playing mostly in the back half, also performed well, winning the contested ball when it was there to be won and using the footy well.

From the under-18s, bottom-age forward Jordan Houlihan showed some promising signs that suggest he may be a player to watch next year with his cleanness at ground level particularly outstanding.

Jordan Sweet through the ruck for the under-18s stood out with his tap work, displaying his leap and strength in the contest. Peter Ladhamswhen it was his turn through the ruck also made the most of his opportunities.

Through the midfield Jonty Scharenberg performed strongly winning his own ball. Scharenberg's use of the ball by foot was also very impressive with the cleanness and precision with which he found teammates.

Jack Graham through the midfield also had an impact with his work at stoppages, making clear that he will be one of the South Australians to watch during the National Under-18 Championships over the coming weeks.

Sturt's 198cm bottom-age key forward Callum Coleman-Jones finished the game with two goals and showed some good signs with his work overhead promising.

 

[Bicks]

Anyone know how Jarryd Lyons' brother goes?

Corey goes alright and you'll be able to see for yourself as he's made the Vic Metro squad for the upcoming Championships I believe. Hopefully Fox Footy will be covering the Championships again this year?

• Corey Lyons
• Player Number
  7
• Date of Birth
  31st May 1998
• Height (cm)
  182
• Weight (kgs)
  78
• Local Club
  Other
• School / Uni
  St James College

 

[AdelaideFan14]

Have you seen many games of Jack Scrimshaw or Daniel Venables? Bicks Jeffcrowe

 

[ad victoriam]

That's easy Jordan Sweet..

http://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/15886728/jack-bowes-firms-possible-no1-pick

SA under-20s v SA under-18s

Medium forwards Henry Carey (five goals) and Josh Koster (three goals) led the under-20s to victory, proving too strong for the under-18 defenders. Brett Turner, playing mostly in the back half, also performed well, winning the contested ball when it was there to be won and using the footy well.

From the under-18s, bottom-age forward Jordan Houlihan showed some promising signs that suggest he may be a player to watch next year with his cleanness at ground level particularly outstanding.

Jordan Sweet through the ruck for the under-18s stood out with his tap work, displaying his leap and strength in the contest. Peter Ladhamswhen it was his turn through the ruck also made the most of his opportunities.

Through the midfield Jonty Scharenberg performed strongly winning his own ball. Scharenberg's use of the ball by foot was also very impressive with the cleanness and precision with which he found teammates.

Jack Graham through the midfield also had an impact with his work at stoppages, making clear that he will be one of the South Australians to watch during the National Under-18 Championships over the coming weeks.

Sturt's 198cm bottom-age key forward Callum Coleman-Jones finished the game with two goals and showed some good signs with his work overhead promising.

Would love Sweet But he Not at this time 1st round and I believe Port will pick him with there 3rd round.