Strategy 2016 Draft Needs

[Stiffy_18]

Not sure the injury would have done Hampton's confidence that much good?

Overall I just don't like his chances, he's behind Rat/Smith/CC/Knight/Menzel/Seed IMO

This is based on "exposed" form. With this same logic, 12 months ago Mitch McGovern was in line for delisting, Riley Knight was best 22, Rat needed a whole heap of injuries to others to get a consistent game and Menzel was best 22.

Of course none of those proved to be true. BF and fans in general suffer form "out of sight, out of mind" syndrome. When judging players you need to do so on talent alone. Hampton is a VERY talented player. I think even in some of his SANFL games this year he showed glimpses of real class and X factor, something that our side lacks. I think, like every single pre-season there are about half a dozen spots up for grabs and people continue to under estimate just how much development a player can achieve in a single pre-season. You only need to look at Atkins this year to see the astronomical steps forward he has taken in his development.

With Hampton, one thing he has lacked is consistency in term of selection and a clear injury free run at it. He came back from a foot injury mid way through the year and showed glimpses of why we did recruit him. People forget that he has practically missed a whole pre-season and half a season last year. Once he came back from injury, he finished out the season injury free.

I would not be surprised one bit if Hampton is in our best 22 last year if he can have an injury free pre-season. So far there has been no reports that he has had surgery or injury management program in the off-season so it would appear that it is all clear for him to hit the ground running when the pre-season starts in a couple of weeks. Based on talent alone, I am comfortable that we traded 2nd round pick for him. He will be a very very good players for us. Ready made and provides us with something that we have lacked for a while but especially in the last 12 months.

 

[Bicks]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...k=608c74e58f0fe1268399a5b65257205b-1479261227


AFL draft: Hugh McCluggage, of Allansford, the cream of the crop
HANNAH DRISCOLL, The Weekly Times
an hour ago

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HUGH McCluggage is the talk of the AFL world, but that means little on his current paddock, working on his family’s Western District dairy farm.

McCluggage, 18, from Allansford just outside Warrnambool, is being touted as a potential No.1 selection at the AFL’s November 25 national draft, but when he spoke to The Weekly Times, football had taken a back seat to farm work — he was helping bring in cows for milking.

“I’ve loved growing up out here,” he said.

“I have pretty good memories of helping Dad out, whether it be on the tractor, or with the cows milking and stuff like that.”

Draft dreams: Hugh McCluggage, on his family’s dairy farm in Allansford, has been touted as a No.1 draft selection in the AFL’s national draft. Picture: Chloe Smith
Hugh has attended school in Ballarat for the past two years and this year became the first North Ballarat Rebels player to win the TAC Cup best-and-fairest, the Morrish Medal, despite playing just 10 regular season matches.



If he is selected No.1 in the AFL draft, the midfielder will be the second player in TAC Cup history to win the Morrish Medal and be the top draft pick in the same year, after Carlton’s Matthew Kreuzer in 2007.

Essendon holds the No.1 selection this year for the first time but the pick is as open as any year with McCluggage and brilliant Sandringham defender Andrew McGrath rated the top two chances to join the Bombers.


McCluggage’s trump card is his ability to hit the scoreboard — he averaged 24 disposals and two goals per game in the TAC Cup this year, number never seen at AFL level.

The former Allansford junior and South Warrnambool senior footballer was an All-Australian this year after his stellar performance for Vic Country in the AFL Under-18 Championships.

But even Hugh is surprised at where he finds himself.

“I guess I knew if I worked hard I could have a pretty solid year,” he said.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

This is based on "exposed" form. With this same logic, 12 months ago Mitch McGovern was in line for delisting, Riley Knight was best 22, Rat needed a whole heap of injuries to others to get a consistent game and Menzel was best 22.

Of course none of those proved to be true. BF and fans in general suffer form "out of sight, out of mind" syndrome. When judging players you need to do so on talent alone. Hampton is a VERY talented player. I think even in some of his SANFL games this year he showed glimpses of real class and X factor, something that our side lacks. I think, like every single pre-season there are about half a dozen spots up for grabs and people continue to under estimate just how much development a player can achieve in a single pre-season. You only need to look at Atkins this year to see the astronomical steps forward he has taken in his development.

With Hampton, one thing he has lacked is consistency in term of selection and a clear injury free run at it. He came back from a foot injury mid way through the year and showed glimpses of why we did recruit him. People forget that he has practically missed a whole pre-season and half a season last year. Once he came back from injury, he finished out the season injury free.

I would not be surprised one bit if Hampton is in our best 22 last year if he can have an injury free pre-season. So far there has been no reports that he has had surgery or injury management program in the off-season so it would appear that it is all clear for him to hit the ground running when the pre-season starts in a couple of weeks. Based on talent alone, I am comfortable that we traded 2nd round pick for him. He will be a very very good players for us. Ready made and provides us with something that we have lacked for a while but especially in the last 12 months.

When selected by GWS ..Hampton was rated one of the best juniors in the country .....he hasn't lost that talent at all

 

[Danger in Texas]

This is based on "exposed" form. With this same logic, 12 months ago Mitch McGovern was in line for delisting, Riley Knight was best 22, Rat needed a whole heap of injuries to others to get a consistent game and Menzel was best 22.

Of course none of those proved to be true. BF and fans in general suffer form "out of sight, out of mind" syndrome. When judging players you need to do so on talent alone. Hampton is a VERY talented player. I think even in some of his SANFL games this year he showed glimpses of real class and X factor, something that our side lacks. I think, like every single pre-season there are about half a dozen spots up for grabs and people continue to under estimate just how much development a player can achieve in a single pre-season. You only need to look at Atkins this year to see the astronomical steps forward he has taken in his development.

With Hampton, one thing he has lacked is consistency in term of selection and a clear injury free run at it. He came back from a foot injury mid way through the year and showed glimpses of why we did recruit him. People forget that he has practically missed a whole pre-season and half a season last year. Once he came back from injury, he finished out the season injury free.

I would not be surprised one bit if Hampton is in our best 22 last year if he can have an injury free pre-season. So far there has been no reports that he has had surgery or injury management program in the off-season so it would appear that it is all clear for him to hit the ground running when the pre-season starts in a couple of weeks. Based on talent alone, I am comfortable that we traded 2nd round pick for him. He will be a very very good players for us. Ready made and provides us with something that we have lacked for a while but especially in the last 12 months.

Problem is, there are players that have been out-performing Hampton even in the SANFL. Granted, he was getting back up to fitness, but so was Knight and he was still getting larger numbers. I'd be confident in saying Menzel would provide more to our side than Hampton would. Seed has been getting a number of games already and has proved he can play well when consistently in an AFL best 22. And, of course, Smith/CC/Rat are already there.

Hampton's spent 5 years on AFL lists without being able to cement himself. I actually wonder how much development he has left in him, considering he's 24 next year. A player can have talent, but whether they're able to apply that talent due to various factors, and develop that talent, is another question. There's a number of things that have held Hampton back (consistency in numbers, questionable decision making, not getting a proper run of AFL games, injuries etc). This makes it more unlikely than likely *in my mind* that Hampton will be able to become a best 22 player for us.

 

[Bicks]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...-to-top-after-solid-year-20161113-gsoa4q.html

AFL draft 2016: Hugh McCluggage rises to top after solid year

• Emma Quayle

When Hugh McCluggage was six he would spend hours out the back of his family's house near Warrnambool, working on the dairy farm. He had to be dragged inside for a bath at the end of the day and when his parents asked what he wanted to do when he grew up, he said he'd be happy to stay there, driving the tractor. Then along came cricket. And football. And tennis. "I enjoyed the farm," he said. "But then I found out there were other things to do."

His world has kept expanding ever since. As a 15-year-old McCluggage played in the same cricket team as his father and an uncle, winning a one-day final with them. He made the local paper that year, for getting caught on 99. The following winter he got a phone call from the South Warrnambool football coach, asking if he was ready to play his first game for the senior team the next day. I want to, he said, but you'd better let me call mum and dad. "I was nervous, but I was keen to play. It took about an hour to convince them that I'd be OK."

Hugh McCluggage loves spending time on the family dairy farm outside Warrnambool. Photo: Rob Gunstone
Opportunities kept coming. McCluggage was a talented batsman who made several regional representative sides. He was a good tennis player and also played soccer. Late last season he was called into the AFL Academy and began to feel sure football was the game he most wanted to play. But before then he had a big decision to make, after Ballarat Clarendon College offered him the chance to move two hours from home, live in their boarding house and be closer to the North Ballarat Rebels team he was already aspiring to make the next year.

McCluggage asked himself a lot of questions. "He's thoughtful. He likes to take things in," said his mum, Christine. "He's a bit of a deep thinker," adds his father, Sam. The school seemed like a good one. Less time travelling to and from Warrnambool to play for the Rebels could only help improve his game. And one of his closest friends was also thinking of going to Ballarat. In the end McCluggage decided it was time to take the less comfortable option, to give it a go.

Hugh McCluggage in action for Vic Country. Photo: Pat Scala
It was a good idea. "When we left him up there he was a quiet, reserved little fella and in the last two years he's completely blossomed, he's come out of his shell and really grown in confidence," said Christine.

Sam added: "He had to work hard to build relationships and get to know new people and get out of his comfort zone. He took a risk, but it's worked out for him."

McCluggage felt more settled as each week passed and his confidence grew through his football. He was held up by a back injury over summer but made plans when his season ended to do the same things every week, play the same way no matter what level he was at, become a better inside-outside player and, away from the ground, be something other than the quiet kid wanting to just take everything in.

"That changed a bit this year," he said. "I had to change it a bit. I'm still not the loudest person but I tried to contribute a lot more and be part of it, involve myself a lot more and not just drift through. I just asked more questions, got more help off people, got to know people a lot better, especially the coaches and my teammates and all the people around the club. That's something I'm going to try and take with me wherever I go from here."

Other things, McCluggage had to get used to on the run. His form built through the year. He was one of the best players for Vic Country and took that form back to North Ballarat where he won the Morrish medal. He was clever and crafty. He kept getting the ball, he played with poise and he kicked a lot of goals. He also felt by the end of the year that he'd done what he set out to do, in terms of getting the ball out of tougher spots.

"At the start of the year I was trying to get some more muscle on my body so I could be physically a bit stronger around the ball. And after that it was just the mental side of it and that will to want the ball and be the one who gets it," he said. "I had that in my head all the time ... I still have a long way to go but I feel like it has definitely improved."

McCluggage did well enough to know he won't have to wait too long for his name to be called out in this week's draft. But even that side of things didn't worry him too much. While he had firm plans at the start of the year, McCluggage didn't wonder if he would be picked first, third, fifth or elsewhere. He wasn't even thinking about being picked and still isn't, though his younger brother Myles has made it known he will still barrack for Carlton no matter what team Hugh ends up at.

"There was always that bit of anticipation, wondering what would happen and knowing it was my dream. But it probably wasn't the same as some of the kids who made All-Australian or played Vic Country last year," McCluggage said. "I wasn't even thinking about getting drafted at the start of the year, I just wanted to make some teams and play as well as I could and see what happened after that.

"It came into my head more as the season went on, but at the same time it hasn't fazed me. It's one of those things where you do just have to wait, you can't do too much else and it's been an enjoyable year. Whatever happens, it's already been good."

 

[Elite Crow]

When selected by GWS ..Hampton was rated one of the best juniors in the country .....he hasn't lost that talent at all

Toumpas Tambling Jacky.......

 

[eddiespocket]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...-to-top-after-solid-year-20161113-gsoa4q.html

AFL draft 2016: Hugh McCluggage rises to top after solid year

• Emma Quayle

When Hugh McCluggage was six he would spend hours out the back of his family's house near Warrnambool, working on the dairy farm. He had to be dragged inside for a bath at the end of the day and when his parents asked what he wanted to do when he grew up, he said he'd be happy to stay there, driving the tractor. Then along came cricket. And football. And tennis. "I enjoyed the farm," he said. "But then I found out there were other things to do."

His world has kept expanding ever since. As a 15-year-old McCluggage played in the same cricket team as his father and an uncle, winning a one-day final with them. He made the local paper that year, for getting caught on 99. The following winter he got a phone call from the South Warrnambool football coach, asking if he was ready to play his first game for the senior team the next day. I want to, he said, but you'd better let me call mum and dad. "I was nervous, but I was keen to play. It took about an hour to convince them that I'd be OK."

Hugh McCluggage loves spending time on the family dairy farm outside Warrnambool. Photo: Rob Gunstone
Opportunities kept coming. McCluggage was a talented batsman who made several regional representative sides. He was a good tennis player and also played soccer. Late last season he was called into the AFL Academy and began to feel sure football was the game he most wanted to play. But before then he had a big decision to make, after Ballarat Clarendon College offered him the chance to move two hours from home, live in their boarding house and be closer to the North Ballarat Rebels team he was already aspiring to make the next year.

McCluggage asked himself a lot of questions. "He's thoughtful. He likes to take things in," said his mum, Christine. "He's a bit of a deep thinker," adds his father, Sam. The school seemed like a good one. Less time travelling to and from Warrnambool to play for the Rebels could only help improve his game. And one of his closest friends was also thinking of going to Ballarat. In the end McCluggage decided it was time to take the less comfortable option, to give it a go.

Hugh McCluggage in action for Vic Country. Photo: Pat Scala
It was a good idea. "When we left him up there he was a quiet, reserved little fella and in the last two years he's completely blossomed, he's come out of his shell and really grown in confidence," said Christine.

Sam added: "He had to work hard to build relationships and get to know new people and get out of his comfort zone. He took a risk, but it's worked out for him."

McCluggage felt more settled as each week passed and his confidence grew through his football. He was held up by a back injury over summer but made plans when his season ended to do the same things every week, play the same way no matter what level he was at, become a better inside-outside player and, away from the ground, be something other than the quiet kid wanting to just take everything in.

"That changed a bit this year," he said. "I had to change it a bit. I'm still not the loudest person but I tried to contribute a lot more and be part of it, involve myself a lot more and not just drift through. I just asked more questions, got more help off people, got to know people a lot better, especially the coaches and my teammates and all the people around the club. That's something I'm going to try and take with me wherever I go from here."

Other things, McCluggage had to get used to on the run. His form built through the year. He was one of the best players for Vic Country and took that form back to North Ballarat where he won the Morrish medal. He was clever and crafty. He kept getting the ball, he played with poise and he kicked a lot of goals. He also felt by the end of the year that he'd done what he set out to do, in terms of getting the ball out of tougher spots.

"At the start of the year I was trying to get some more muscle on my body so I could be physically a bit stronger around the ball. And after that it was just the mental side of it and that will to want the ball and be the one who gets it," he said. "I had that in my head all the time ... I still have a long way to go but I feel like it has definitely improved."

McCluggage did well enough to know he won't have to wait too long for his name to be called out in this week's draft. But even that side of things didn't worry him too much. While he had firm plans at the start of the year, McCluggage didn't wonder if he would be picked first, third, fifth or elsewhere. He wasn't even thinking about being picked and still isn't, though his younger brother Myles has made it known he will still barrack for Carlton no matter what team Hugh ends up at.

"There was always that bit of anticipation, wondering what would happen and knowing it was my dream. But it probably wasn't the same as some of the kids who made All-Australian or played Vic Country last year," McCluggage said. "I wasn't even thinking about getting drafted at the start of the year, I just wanted to make some teams and play as well as I could and see what happened after that.

"It came into my head more as the season went on, but at the same time it hasn't fazed me. It's one of those things where you do just have to wait, you can't do too much else and it's been an enjoyable year. Whatever happens, it's already been good."

People with this much talent annoy me ! Probably got the smarts and good with the ladies as well !

 

[Untouchables22]

Toumpas Tambling Jacky.......

Jacky gives me nightmares. Bamby on iceskates.

 

[FAITH]

hope we somehow get brennan cox with one of our late picks.

 

[Danger in Texas]

hope we somehow get brennan cox with one of our late picks.

Think Pies or Port will swoop on him

 

[FAITH]

Think Pies or Port will swoop on him

what pick?

 

[Danger in Texas]

what pick?

28 (Pies), 30/31 (PA)

 

[Jeffcrowe]

28 (Pies), 30/31 (PA)

Sounds about right

Cox , Maibaum and Ridley are all players that may be in mix for those picks

Ridley may go a little earlier - very promising player and could even see him going top 20 if a club wants him enough

Fascinated with where SPP may go

 

[Danger in Texas]

Sounds about right

Cox , Maibaum and Ridley are all players that may be in mix for those picks

Ridley may go a little earlier - very promising player and could even see him going top 20 if a club wants him enough

Fascinated with where SPP may go

Maibaum I feel will go later due to the lack of that attacking side. Will be a good pickup somewhere in the 40's or 50's though.

Reckon Ridley gets drafted by Geelong. Just feel that he's a type of player they lack. Don't know if he goes top 20

If SPP doesn't get to WCE (doesn't sound like they're too interested, which surprises me), I reckon he may slide into the 2nd round, possibly to St Kilda

 

[Bicks]

Sounds about right

Cox , Maibaum and Ridley are all players that may be in mix for those picks

Ridley may go a little earlier - very promising player and could even see him going top 20 if a club wants him enough

Fascinated with where SPP may go

There is not a better kick in this draft than Jordan Ridley, would love to have a 2nd round pick for him.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

There is not a better kick in this draft than Jordan Ridley, would love to have a 2nd round pick for him.

Wouldn't surprise me if someone takes him 1st round - reckon he's one of the better players in this draft and some clubs may have him top 15 on their lists

 

[GreyCrow]

I keep thinking as soon as McLuggage starts dropping easy marks he will be called McClunkage. But that's just me.

 

[Red mist]

I keep thinking as soon as McLuggage starts dropping easy marks he will be called McClunkage. But that's just me.

Yes, it is.

 

[Bicks]

I keep thinking as soon as McLuggage starts dropping easy marks he will be called McClunkage. But that's just me.

It is just you, Hughey's skills are sublime, Pendlebury, Akermanis like sublime.

 

[scoota10]

Has any body seen Sam McLachan play he is listed as a Smokey
on the Draft Machine plus have they got his Height right (195 cm) for a Midfielder
I would take him at #67

 

[lunacy]

The puff pieces coming out into the media currently does have a habit of elevating players good points, bad points aren't in these pieces

Just remember Begley is still only being discussed from #50 onwards, maybe rookie ......so there are limitations i'd like to know more about

Actually Brett Anderson has him ranked as the 34th best player and predicts he'll get picked up between 30-45.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Actually Brett Anderson has him ranked as the 34th best player and predicts he'll get picked up between 30-45.

Definite chance for 43

One of Lipinski, Drew , Begley and Poholke
for mine

 

[Bicks]

Definite chance for 43

One of Lipinski, Drew , Begley and Poholke
for mine

Still think if Jonty is there at 43 we are a big chance to take him.

 

[Bicks]

 

[Danger in Texas]

Definite chance for 43

One of Lipinski, Drew , Begley and Poholke
for mine

Yeah this is what I'm feeling

53 is a bit more difficult though, if Jarman isn't bid on by then I reckon we'll take a more outside player, but who?