2016 Draft Rumours

[Andre the Giant]

3 of the top 9? You must really rate Perrymen.

I wouldn't know but most of the experts have Taranto and Setterfield in the top 8 and Perryman thereabouts.

We're certainly not complaining.

 

[Mofra]

Pick 3 for 7, 34, 72 and McCarthy. Based on the point system it values McCarthy as very little but that's probably fair given how his issues and the point system overrated pick 34 massively compared to the 3-7 switch. Wouldn't say that was selling the farm.

Pick 2, 31, 51, 60 for 3 and 16. Purely on points and with the academy kids I'd say this one is a win for GWS.

It's true McCarthy is valued very little in the trade however GWS really just needed to get a draft pick ahead of any likely bid on Settersfield and they've done that so the 'intangibles' of the trade still stack up very well for GWS

 

[Milenko]

Will be very pissed of as a WCE fan.
SPP is a massive wce fan has been training with the club all year, and has been
working with our development coaches.
He desperately wants to play with us.
So will be upset if he doesn't go to us.
He's a real loyal kid as well so if goes interstate will probably stay there.
He's a future captain in the making.

Worth a reach (around and a vigorous tug) IMO.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

We're certainly not complaining.

Yeah I wouldn't think you have too much to complain about.

 

[bgt2110]

What time is the draft? Cant find that info anywhere.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...rdern-pavillion-sydney.1152700/#post-47887943

 

[FAITH]

can i watch the draft on foxtel play through my PC?

 

[HawkintheTuarts]

They have been doing mock drafts all year though. Twomey did one every month I believe. It's not quite like the US, but the coverage is there.

A monthly list of 20-30 names is nothing compared to this or this so far out from their respective drafts. What we have is amateurish in comparison. Wanting better than day-before info for release of phantom drafts by the likes of Twomey, Quayle or Anderson etc should be a fairly easy standard to reach. We have to rely on fans (like on BF) for that.

Mate, have you actually been following the draft coverage all year or not? Andersen and Twomey have been putting out their top 30 each month since the beginning of the season.

I'm a big follower of the NBA, so I do know where you are coming from. But Australian sports media just doesn't have the money in it for there to be in depth coverage from multiple outlets like there is in the States. Twomey is the closest thing we have to Chad Ford. And there is next to no coverage of the TAC Cup on FoxFooty or on the AFL website.

Twomey and Andersen both host draft podcasts, and have given us pretty good coverage of the U18's, and even a little on the U17's. They both do a top 25/30 each month with player descriptions and why they rate kids where. They get to what games they can to cover the kids, and watch more tape. But their media outlets don't have the budget to fly them all over the country and pay for hotels. So they have to relay on their club contacts, which is no different to what the U.S. media draft followers do. Twomey even spoke about this in a recent podcast.

Both Anderson and Twomey have spoken about why they rate kids where, and why their final mock drafts, with all their contacts information, will vary greatly from their own personal power rankings.

I wonder how much you actually follow the draft coverage, to make such a post.

I have mate, I also happen to follow the draft coverage of several other sports. If you actually followed them too I wonder how you would not realise that it's night and day in comparison to make such a post as this.

 

[spotthedog1]

I have mate, I also happen to follow the draft coverage of several other sports. If you actually followed them too I wonder how you would not realise that it's night and day in comparison to make such a post as this.

Mate, I think you're missing a bit of context there. The NBA and NFL are great models to work towards, but let's not kid ourselves. The AFL aren't their size and never will be. They have a domestic population of 300m to work with, plus they've got a worldwide following. The AFL have a domestic population of 25m to work with, and minimal international appeal. MLB/NBA/NFL budgets compared to the AFL is like Google vs some guy operating out of his parents' basement. Frankly I'm surprised our coverage is as good as it is.

 

[cdcanman]

Draft picks: 81, 83, 91 (likely to use two selections)

Graham Wright and his recruiting team might as well not arrive at the draft until an hour in, because they face a long wait before getting their turn. Pick 81 might end up being about 10 spots earlier, though, once clubs start to pass and other picks get shuffled to the end after academy bids are matched. It is difficult to say who will be around for the Hawks with their two live picks (they have upgraded rookie Kade Stewart), but the likes of athletic type Mason De Wit, nice-kicking Juhdah Dundon, and taller midfielders Tom Williamson and Jacob Allison (if the Lions haven't taken the academy player) could be there. Given the success rates of picks beyond 60 is so low, it wouldn't surprise to see the Hawks look for a more mature player here, too. Could they go a ruckman? VFL prospect Oscar McInerney may be a worth a look.


This would be consistent with what I know (though his name is spelt Judah). Hawthorn are one of four clubs to have met with him through the year, and probably fair to say the one to have shown the most interest, maintaining contact throughout the year. Complicating things might be the fact that Hawthorn only have the 2 live picks, as well as the fact that he has twice missed time this year owing to hot spots (if not outright fractures) in his feet. He will very much be a project, still needing plenty of development physically and with his application, so might be more likely to be taken as a rookie. Will take time but has enough talent, raw physical tools and natural football ability to make it if it all comes together for him.

 

[Peter Sidorkiewicz]

Anyone else have a sense of deja vu regarding where Tim English may be drafted.

He has been mooted as a top 10 pick for the past month or so and now in the last few days leading up to the draft, its a strong possibility he may fall to the Bulldogs pick at around number 19.

Very similar to the Brodie Grundy situation at 2012 draft.

 

[Crawb]

A monthly list of 20-30 names is nothing compared to this or this so far out from their respective drafts.

Actually Twomey has been doing pretty much that all year. Actually the phantom drafts Twomey did were earlier and more extensive than the pieces you listed - more than merely names.

 

[Scotty_222]

Anyone else have a sense of deja vu regarding where Tim English may be drafted.

He has been mooted as a top 10 pick for the past month or so and now in the last few days leading up to the draft, its a strong possibility he may fall to the Bulldogs pick at around number 19.

Very similar to the Brodie Grundy situation at 2012 draft.

Grundy was pretty much ready to go wasn't he?

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Actually Twomey has been doing pretty much that all year. Actually the phantom drafts Twomey did were earlier and more extensive than the pieces you listed - more than merely names.

Its in the USA so it must be better

 

[Apex36]

Grundy was pretty much ready to go wasn't he?

Yes. Grundy was ready to go and rated top 3 until about a week or so before the draft when clubs suddenly got cold feet over drafting a ruckman early. English as a project player, has been the subject of debate for weeks and weeks though. Fairly different situations.

 

[HBF]

Is Emma Quayle's coming out today?

 

[Scotty_222]

Yes. Grundy was ready to go and rated top 3 until about a week or so before the draft when clubs suddenly got cold feet over drafting a ruckman early. English as a project player, has been the subject of debate for weeks and weeks though. Fairly different situations.

English will take 2 - 3 years..
Him coming to us in the top 10 would be a disaster i think.

 

[Apex36]

English will take 2 - 3 years..
Him coming to us in the top 10 would be a disaster i think.

Hard to tell really. Your ruck coverage is good enough that you can afford to take him on imo (most of you will be pleasantly surprised by Witts). Don't you have a monster of a kid coming through your academy next year though? Seems like English would be overkill if that's the case.

 

[Scotty_222]

Hard to tell really. Your ruck coverage is good enough that you can afford to take him on imo (most of you will be pleasantly surprised by Witts). Don't you have a monster of a kid coming through your academy next year though? Seems like English would be overkill if that's the case.

Yeah Crossley next year. His brother is supposed to be as good if not better.. Which I think is the year after.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

English is an over-ager and has already played WAFL senior footy. I don't see why he couldn't be playing AFL footy by 2018 in a full time AFL environment.

 

[Chaisa]

Is Emma Quayle's coming out today?

I think she said it was coming on Thursday night on Twitter, so probably.

 

[GHS33]

Isaac Cumming now invited to the draft. Think there may be a few sliders: Brodie? Scrimshaw?

 

[HBF]

Isaac Cumming now invited to the draft. Think there may be a few sliders: Brodie? Scrimshaw?

Brodie yes, I think Scrimshaw might end up at GC with one of their picks.

 

[Toadvine]

Isaac Cumming now invited to the draft. Think there may be a few sliders: Brodie? Scrimshaw?

GWS with 4 picks (3 academy) in the 1st round. Wonderful.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Isaac Cumming now invited to the draft. Think there may be a few sliders: Brodie? Scrimshaw?

Adelaide or port to bid on cumming maybe? Wonder if giants match.

 

[TerryWallet]

The Top 6 picks seem settled.

McG, Taranto, McL, Ainsworth, Setterfield, SPS.

Everyone, including Twomey, Anderson and Quayle by their own commendable acknowledgement, has very little idea how the rest falls other than to have a range for players and some ideas of who clubs have put time into.