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TheSheik said:
The game has changed since Barry Cable played. We have a gun midfielder who would of played CHF in the old days, key position players are now taller again.
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SOS was 194cm tall... most of the power forwards he played against in the day used to max out at 193cm tall (Lockett as a prime example). So going on your requirements for height... our tall forwards should be around 2m tall and our tall defenders should be around 203cm tall?

Even today, the average height for a tall forward is around 193cm tall... so this desire for the super tall forwards smacks really of desperation rather than desire.

The height argument sounds more like a dick size competition than any sort of real metric. Just because we have an absolute freak of a footballer in Cripps, who is 194cm tall, doesn't mean that all our mids need to be the same height or even close to being the same height. And because we have Cripps at 194cm tall doesn't mean that our tall forwards all need to be in excess of 195 because our best mid could also play as a CHF in another age.

But sure... lets go down that route and have all our midfielders at 189cm+ in height and weighing in at 85+ kg in weight... your classic big bodied mid, and I can pretty much guarantee that we will have one of the slowest teams, if not the slowest, in the league... but damn everyone else will have to look up at our players while we are languishing at the bottom of the ladder for the next decade or even longer.
 
Red Bull said:
He selected Ainsworth with our 1st pick to give us a pretty handy looking forward line going forward .

Battle McKay Sumner
Ainsworth C.Curnow J.Silvagni

*B.Silvagni in the pipeline .

If we can lure Marchbank this trade period it also rounds out a good looking defense going forward .

Simpson Marchbank Plowman
Docherty Weitering Byrne

That then leaves the midfield to be attacked in future drafts from 2017 onwards as well as selected recruiting raids and FA .
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I know that you can never have enough good players but maybe Tomlinson is coming in, for what Battle may do.

Who knows who we may get and where, come November........but that's not going to stop as discussing/debating/arguing in the meantime. :)
 

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TheSheik said:
Scary isn't it.

This is why I keep talking about the game changing, there are eras & fads that take over for short & long periods.

Right now, the fad is for big-bodied mids & even bigger key position players. Eventually the wheel will fully turn and there will be a return to the mosquito fleet but till that happens, we need to go tall.
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I think that is the worst post I have ever seen you post Sheik. We shouldn't be selecting players based on what the latest fad is, if the wheel can fully turn then we would be better off starting the new fad, than waiting for and then jumping on the bandwagon after everybody else has. Smart investors look for assets that are undervalued by the market, it is far more difficult to find bargains when you are looking for exactly the same thing as everybody else.

No doubt big bodied mids are important, we are lucky enough to have one of the best in the league, but there are far to many midfielders running around at the moment who are shorter than your desired height range who are not just flourishing but dominating for them to be overlooked.
 
HARKER said:
I know that you can never have enough good players but maybe Tomlinson is coming in, for what Battle may do.

Who knows who we may get and where, come November........but that's not going to stop as discussing/debating/arguing in the meantime. :)
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Tomlinson may come on board as a jack of all trades (and a lot cheaper than last year) rotating through the midfield and forward line as required .
Battle's name could be swapped for Kerr at our 2nd pick ... the countdown is on !!
 
Red Bull said:
Tomlinson may come on board as a jack of all trades (and a lot cheaper than last year) rotating through the midfield and forward line as required .
Battle's name could be swapped for Kerr at our 2nd pick ... the countdown is on !!
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Yeah..........hurry up :)

I know Tomlinson is being talked about as another big-bodied (can we find a better term?) mid, but he just doesn't seem to attack the ball or man very hard to me. Have I missed something?
 
Red Bull said:
Tomlinson may come on board as a jack of all trades (and a lot cheaper than last year) rotating through the midfield and forward line as required .
Battle's name could be swapped for Kerr at our 2nd pick ... the countdown is on !!
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Gotta admit, I've watched a fair bit of GWS this year and Tomlinson has failed to impress me. Yep, he's a good size and got a good tank, but he never really seems to do much. And when he does do something, it's not overly outstanding. Am I missing something, or are we collectively over rating him?

If he was coming from another club under different circumstances, I wouldn't rate him much higher than a 3rd round pick based on what I've seen.
 
HARKER said:
Yeah..........hurry up :)

I know Tomlinson is being talked about as another big-bodied (can we find a better term?) mid, but he just doesn't seem to attack the ball or man very hard to me. Have I missed something?
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No , he's not on my wishlist but if we are to believe the jungle drums ...
I guess Silvagni is better placed than anyone to make the call ...
 
Red Bull said:
No , he's not on my wishlist but if we are to believe the jungle drums ...
I guess Silvagni is better placed than anyone to make the call ...
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I'm sure some of us here are better placed.................aren't we? :huh:...........:)
 

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Just stirring the pot, but Ben Ainsworths numbers last weekend read as

Ben Ainsworth was prominent through the midfield for Gippsland with 20 disposals, 13 contested possessions, nine tackles, nine clearances, five inside 50s and one goal. His improving midfield play will only enhance his draft stocks and may see him feature inside the top five on draft day.

Got from Knightmares

http://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/...-draft-wrap-allsop-not-invited-combine-chance
 
Jeez I hope McLuggage somehow slides to us. Can't see it happening, but that not gonna stop me from wishing that it does.
 
Soapy V said:
if they're a fyfe or kouta i think it would be okay ;)
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Wouldn't turn down a gun mid because they're big, just don't see the need to chase another big inside mid.

IMO if we decided to pick a mid based around physical attributes we're in more need of one with elite endurance.
 
Beer n Skittles said:
Wouldn't turn down a gun mid because they're big, just don't see the need to chase another big inside mid.

IMO if we decided to pick a mid based around physical attributes we're in more need of one with elite endurance.
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i just wants mids that can run, find the ball, are composed and use it to a high level
 
TheSheik said:
Scary isn't it.

This is why I keep talking about the game changing, there are eras & fads that take over for short & long periods.

Right now, the fad is for big-bodied mids & even bigger key position players. Eventually the wheel will fully turn and there will be a return to the mosquito fleet but till that happens, we need to go tall.
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Or we could look to the Hawks or Doggies (among others) who have emphasised their no. 1 priority in recruiting as an innate ability to actually play the game. Funny how successful they've been.
 

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Red Bull said:
He selected Ainsworth with our 1st pick to give us a pretty handy looking forward line going forward .

Battle McKay Sumner
Ainsworth C.Curnow J.Silvagni

*B.Silvagni in the pipeline .

If we can lure Marchbank this trade period it also rounds out a good looking defense going forward .

Simpson Marchbank Plowman
Docherty Weitering Byrne

That then leaves the midfield to be attacked in future drafts from 2017 onwards as well as selected recruiting raids and FA .
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I still see including B. Silvagni into list management calculations as utterly ridiculous at this point in time. Wait until 2018 at the earliest.
 
Iamcarlton said:
Anybody against picking Patrick Kerr with our second pick ? . Or is that too early ? Probably depending on what we do in the trade period . Saw a small sample of his play in the champs he looks a good prospect good size although not sure of his height quite mobile good mark and very good kick ? And a bluebagger as well . And also an option long term at chf ?
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Quite like the idea of grabbing him but feel he will still be available later on in the draft.
 
Dramoth said:
The height argument sounds more like a dick size competition than any sort of real metric. Just because we have an absolute freak of a footballer in Cripps, who is 194cm tall, doesn't mean that all our mids need to be the same height or even close to being the same height. And because we have Cripps at 194cm tall doesn't mean that our tall forwards all need to be in excess of 195 because our best mid could also play as a CHF in another age.

But sure... lets go down that route and have all our midfielders at 189cm+ in height and weighing in at 85+ kg in weight... your classic big bodied mid, and I can pretty much guarantee that we will have one of the slowest teams, if not the slowest, in the league... but damn everyone else will have to look up at our players while we are languishing at the bottom of the ladder for the next decade or even longer.
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Don't come complaining to me when we are being outbodied in the clinches and outmarked in a pack then.

The slowest midfield in the league ??

Here you go :

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The club has said the emphasis is now on players with genuine leg speed and elite disposal !!
 
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